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Why do people believe Boa Hancock is so strong?

Discussion in 'Ohara Library' started by Jad, Apr 5, 2013.

  1. Jad |#[Dead Man]#|

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    I actually watch the anime and I am half-ass reading the manga (because I don't want to spoil too much because I like watching the anime better), but I don't remember her doing anything impressive. I don't believe she has even had a proper fight.

    I remember she was fighting I guess evenly with Smoker. I thought she was just Crocodile level, but I'm seeing people say she is way better than Kuma, who I regard as very powerful, having his off spring nearly solo'ing the Straw Hat crew effortlessly. What am I missing? Someone enlighten me, I want to be in the know how. Why do you guys think she is so powerful?
     
  2. TrainerRed dont care

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    She was praised by the Buddha.
     
  3. U mad bro Active Member

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    Fan hype above feats in this section:maybe
     
  4. MegaultraHay Hay farmer

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    Wank =/= logic
    Just look at Mihawk's fanbase
     
  5. Infamy XDDDDDD

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    Probably because she has King's Haki.
    Also made Momonga stab himself.
     
  6. Marcο Active Member

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    Hype and portrayal. Praised by Sengoku, possesses CoC and brought a VA to his knees effortlessly.
    What? Mihawk is as strong as most people rate him here. Top tier undoubtedly.
     
  7. Kuma Scream, Benihime

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    You can't fight her without strong haki. That alone takes her out of contention from most fighters.
     
  8. JoJo Active Member

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    If by evenly you mean Hancock had the upper hand the whole time, then yes I agree. Smoker couldn't do shit to Hancock, She broke his jutte in half and stopped him from going for luffy.
    She's stronger than Crocodile for sure. She is possibly stronger than Kuma as seen when she kicked a pacifista's head off. But this really depends on how their DF's interact. Kuma could possibly reflect her attacks, but his paws might not reflect the slave arrows. Who knows tiers can't solve everything as there factors in a fight that can affect a fight. Like Luffy's water use in his fight against Crocodile.
    Err.. A lot of people could do that. A pacifista damn near solo'd them and Hancock turned that pacifista into a headless machine with out much difficulty.

    Other things to note is she embarrassed a high end Vice Admiral who was sent to retrieve her for the marineford war. She was Praised By Sengoku the Buddah: Fleet Admiral of the Marines. And the cherry on top of all that is she has CoC which has been shown to be a sign of immense potential to the point where even the World Government feared Pre-Skip Luffy.
     
  9. Jad |#[Dead Man]#|

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    Can I get some references because I don't remember any of this. I remember Momonga stabbing himself so he wouldn't get petrified but isn't like they fought or anything.
     
  10. JoJo Active Member

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    They didn't fight because she was thought to be very essential to the war against the World Strongest Man Whitebeard, who's wrath is very well known across the seas.
     
  11. Jad |#[Dead Man]#|

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    Can you link me, I don't remember any of this.

    Show me the bold.

    Can you link me or tell me why he is high end?

    And the Conquers Haki as well.

    I truthfully want to see where I missed these points because I honestly don't remember.
     
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  12. Jad |#[Dead Man]#|

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    Just like Moria whose whole arsenal is broken with Salt Water :p I think the bold your hyping her a bit too much with that sentence. That sentence makes it seem she is more than she is worth. I'm starting to see why people recognize her as being strong, but I gotta see these panels and pages.
     
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  13. Marcο Active Member

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    Sengoku calling Hancock strong
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    Hancock confirmed to have CoC.
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    And technically, Momonga and Hancock didn't really "fight", but Hancok was definitely portrayed to be the stronger of the two.
     
  14. Sentomaru New Member

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    I love the Hancock fanwankbase. They have exactly four holy arguments:

    Praised by Sengoku
    -> Same goes for Magellan and Shiryuu

    Fodderized several Pacifista
    -> Nice, that puts her on a level with post-skip Sanji, Zoro, and Luffy feat wise.

    Fodderized Momonga
    -> Wasn't even a real fight, she just used her hax ability. Momonga was there to escort her to Marine Ford not fight with her. I'm not saying Momonga is stronger than her, it's just not as impressive as people claim. Again, getting the better of a Vice Admiral puts her on a level with post-skip Law/M3.

    She has CoC
    She's a tranny:psyduck
    Seriously though... Ace and Doflamingo, nuff said.
     
  15. J★J♥ Vento Aureo

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    Probably because of Coc and she also roflstomed pacefistas.

    No. :giogio 10char
     
  16. Jad |#[Dead Man]#|

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    Really? Can you show me?
     
  17. MrChubz Does want a Custom Title

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    Because papercuts to the hand are a big deal in a universe where people are mildly annoyed by having their lungs pierced with fire.
     
  18. Jad |#[Dead Man]#|

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    Wow, got my first neg for making this thread. I seriously wanted to know what made her strong in the eyes of the people. Thanks Vanhellsing, get negged for asking a legitimate questions to share knowledge and information. Some people...I don't have ANY hidden agenda in making this thread, I have no reason to.

    I mean...
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  19. HaxHax Active Member

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    Beat a VA like it was nothing, CoC. Also beat up tonnes of pacifistas before it was cool. Effortlessly, too.

    That's more than most characters have to show for themselves. Crocodile level? Please.
     
  20. SsjAzn Poptart into the Sunset

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    Hancock also roughed up Sentomaru quite a bit, hyped to be as strong as the VAs', and effortlessly destroyed multiple Pacifistas. I'd say she's still a step above the Post M3.
     
  21. MugiwaraInvincible Don't Bother

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    Hancock v Smoker

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    Hancock v Pacifista

    CoC is really big hype too imo
     
  22. Jad |#[Dead Man]#|

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    Could you link me, that sounds interesting, I need to see.
     
  23. MugiwaraInvincible Don't Bother

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    Ehhh I don't think she actually fought Sentomaru. He was just pissed at her for fodderizing his Pacifista.
     
  24. Infamy XDDDDDD

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    Hancock never fought Sentoumaru
     
  25. Blαck Groovy Tony

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    Fodderizing pacifistas
    CoC
    Warlord(though that's not saying much)
    Made two VA look like noobs
     
  26. PureWIN Mr. Prince

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    Fact: she's really strong.

    How strong? We don't really know. We've only seen her effortlessly stall Smoker and roflstomp a Pacifista.

    I'd personally put her on the same level as DoFla.
     
  27. Jad |#[Dead Man]#|

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    You see I still can't really understand what the big fuss is about.

    She definitely has power, she knocked the heads off a bunch of Pacifista's, but at the same time I don't think they were actively engaging her so she held the advantage of course. But I don't want to take too much away from that feat, so it's a good example.

    I don't know if Sentomaru and Boa Hancock fought, it could have meant he got those bruises somewhere else, we can't exactly say it's a fact they fought and she had the upper-hand. Unless I am missing a sentence or a panel of such a thing being said or shown. And who knows how Momonga Vice Admiral would have dealt with Hancock in a fight because it seemed like she couldn't put Smoker down which comes to my next point.

    Smoker seemed to be on a lower level than Hancock, seemingly because she had Haki. And usually Haki users > None Haki users. But at the same time, he wasn't exactly being fodderised or beaten to death, he just couldn't get passed her, and she simply couldn't knock him out, which would have saved her the trouble of having to deal with him had she the power to do so.

    She does have Conquers Haki but at the same time it is underdeveloped as she stated, but again I don't want to take too much from that indication that she is strong.

    Now all your examples have changed my view on her, but from what I have seen I wouldn't put her on Marco level, nor Mihawks or an Admiral. She is definitely above and between Vice Admiral and below Admiral level, but the gap between the two is quite large. I say she fits quite comfortably most likely above Magellan in my honest opinion, could be just above Ace or below him, maybe somewhere around that level. I could change my opinion though. This is just from a glance at your scans and me remembering other characters strengths.

    If their are other scans or panels I am missing please post them, but I think I'm sort of understanding her placement.
     
  28. Kirito &#32

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    anyways OP it's just like dragon being hyped up or kaido. they have even lesser feats than boa hancock yet everyone and their mom is on their dicks. having a vagina dont change the fact that she powerful through hype. for all we know dragon might just be a genius strategist with crocodile-level battle ability but right now hes running on nothing but hype.

    shit's wrong translation AFAIK. she was talking about luffy's.
     
  29. HaxHax Active Member

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    She didn't try to kill Smoker or Momonga. She toyed with them at best.


    Let's make a topic like this, only about shiryu. Going to get into deep shit on that one.
     
  30. SsjAzn Poptart into the Sunset

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  31. Infamy XDDDDDD

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    I don't think anyone considers Hancock Admiral level lol I think most believe she's a little weaker than Dofla
     
  32. Jad |#[Dead Man]#|

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    Oh, I didn't know.
     
  33. MugiwaraInvincible Don't Bother

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    I don't know about other people on here. In fact I actually think some people do tend to over rank her just because we haven't seen enough concrete evidence. However, I do think she has a ton of potential. She's either fodderized or made everyone she's attempted to fight give up. Add that to Sengoku's endorsement and her CoC and you have a character that can go as high as Oda wants her. Like I said, I personally don't know where she fits tier wise but I do believe she can be as high as some people make her out to be.
     
  34. Jad |#[Dead Man]#|

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    Not much to say about him, but you can make one, people are just going to say his Magellan level, and rightfully so since it was stated like that I believe. In-fact, I believe I ready made a thread like that.

    As for the above statement, it would have saved her a big deal of trouble to at least knock him out rather 'toying with him' as you say. Momonga and Hancock never actually fought so who knows what would have happened, but I believe also she would have had the upper-hand. Hence I stated she is above Vice Admiral level in my opinion (which could be wrong).
     
  35. Marcelle.B Yuh Dun Know Moderator

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  36. Viper █▬█ █ ▄█▀ ▄█▀ ▄█▀

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    But people put her in between those two anyway in terms of strength so... what's the problem?
     
  37. Jet Bazooka Member

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    There is no way in hell that Crocodile is in the same league as Hancock. Just the fact that she has COC is enough to say that she's extremely strong. All of the people with COC are strong as hell or possess immense potential.
     
  38. HaxHax Active Member

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    Hancock attacked Momonga and his troops head-on with a casual attack. Momongas only possible reaction to this was cutting himself and falling to his knees, while all his men were turned to stone?

    Keep talking.
     
  39. Jad |#[Dead Man]#|

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    See, I think I already knew she had Conquers Haki, but I don't think I ever took it as an indication that it was the making of a powerful character. I mostly took it as an 'ability' and that's it. Interesting.
     
  40. Punk Zebra Earth's CEO

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    Its because shes beautiful!!!
     
  41. Kuma Scream, Benihime

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    Among all the examples people listed, her fruit is one of the huge ones. She has a fighting style light Sanji but, way more dangerous. You can block a kick. If you block hers, it just means you lose your arm instead of your head. You can't defend against her. Each bit of contact will crumble and destroy your body.

    Without CoO to evade and CoA to protect your body, it's impossible to fight her. Unless you're a long range fighter and she still has two long range moves. That's super tricky. Then add her CoA and CoO to the pot and that's one dangerous fighter
     
  42. Jad |#[Dead Man]#|

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    Well, I will keep talking and you seem to be taken offense. We just don't know what would have happened in that fight, he may even give Hancock a rough fight, who knows. I even stated though she is above Vice-Admiral level and you come off as attacking me. Have I offended you in some way? Because if you think I am offending a fictional character which I am not, and your taking offense to that, well than perhaps a forum were people have differing opinions is a bad place for you.
     
  43. HaxHax Active Member

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    Your willful ignorance offends me.
     
  44. Shingy Two Shings

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    So let's see. She made a prominent Vice Admiral stab himself, which if he didn't, he would have turned to stone right then and there. In a battle, that's already a loss.

    Being praised by the Fleet Admiral, who thinks she could shift the tide of the war if she was on their side.

    Kicking the heads off of numerous pacifistas in one go, and just not giving a fuck even if all of the admirals and vice admirals saw her hit allies.

    You realize comparing her to Ace and Doflamingo is just a testament to the power of CotC users hold? Ace, 2nd division commander of the Whitebeard pirates, and son of Roger. His immense potential, and still inferior to Hancock. The second comparison, Donquixote Doflamingo, the boss of the underground new world, Joker the second alias. The man that shrugged off Aokiji's attack, and fodderized the Post Skip Vice Admiral Smoker.

    Who else would you name? Shanks? :hehee An even worse comparison.

    Just the fact that she has all three types of haki, and can use them just provides you with the basic level of her strength. That and roaming the new world for years, and making it out of there alive with those kinds of looks? You'd be a target for all kinds of pirates.

    So yeah OP, she's pretty fucking strong, and justifiably so.
     
  45. Kirito &#32

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    dont wanna be debbie downer but where in the manga was that stated?
     
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    Yeah lol you just made that up, Shingy
     
  47. Palpatine Heheheh

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    Primarily hype at this point. Sengoku praised her and she is highly skilled with King's haki.

    I believe she's also one of the few characters in the manga to have not been physically injured (not counting the goofy love incidents) by another character yet.
     
  48. Shingy Two Shings

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    Can't a nigga fantasize no more? :lbj
     
  49. Donquixote Doflamingo Master Puppeteer

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    She is a High level high tier aka Magellan level roughly by most people around here.

    I don't think that's overrating her really.

    She was portrayed stronger then two prominent vice admirals, and recently contrasted with doflamingo who is low top tier IMO.

    The chances of her being stronger then Pre-upgrade kuma is pretty high IMO.
     
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    I obviously don't think she's Admiral level, but like most people above me said. She's more between Ace and Doflamingo based off potrayel.

    And like Kuma said. Her devil fruit is her most dangerous ability and the fact that she can use all forms of Haki. Non haki users are basically defenceless a long with low level haki users because she can use CoA as well.

    But we obviously don't know how strong she is yet. But I would guess a little below Doflamingo.
     

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