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When did Naruto become chunin, jounin, and kage level

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  1. joshhookway Better than Kage

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    Chunin: Part II I think Naruto was able the level at the begining of part II. He was definitely not Jonin level. Guy or Kakashi would easily rape his ass. He easily got defeated by Deidara, Oro, Sasuke and Tobi. He would have been blown by Deidara if it weren't for Kakashi. He beat kakazu because kakuzu had fought for a long time and lost two hearts.

    Jonin: Skipped to kage

    Kage: Low borderline Kage at Senjutsu. I would say this because he's clearly superior to most Jonins. He could easily kill Tsunade who isn't really a good kage or kage levelled. His kenjutsu and toad summons are powerful. However, he looks unimpressive against others kages and kage levelled shinobi.
    Mid-Kage RM Naruto: he was clearly stronger than zombie Raikage, but got raped by other high level shinobi such as madara, itachi, nagato, and jins
    High Kage Kurama mode: He soloed all the jins. It only took one jin to destroy him in RM.
     
  2. Whirlpool Triumvir

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    Low kage at SM :giogio it was more like high-kage, he beat Sandaime raikage in it and fought on par with kyuubi and 6 paths of pain, all high-kage. As well as surpassing jiraiya and oro in SM


    Genin-level - Start of part-1

    Chuunin-level - Post-gamabunta

    Jonin-level - Post timeskip

    Kage-level - Post wind training

    Demi-god - RM

    God - KM

    Satan - Juubi chakra mode with SM
     
  3. Octavian Gomu Gomu no

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    SM naruto can beat every current kage except for Ei... i don't know what you mean by borderline low kage :geg

    anyway, here's how i see it

    post time skip naruto: special jonin (slightly below regular jonin)
    post wind training naruto: high jounin
    SM naruto: mid-high kage
    RM v1 naruto: above kage
    RM v2 naruto: demi-god
     
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  4. ImSerious Active Member

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    What does the second sentence have to do with the first one?
     
  5. stockholmsyndrome Active Member

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    Genin: Series introduction.
    Chunin: After the toad summoning training
    Jonin: When he returned from the TS seeing as Naruto was above Neji in skill who is a jonin.
    Low Kage: Post Fuuton training
    High Kage: Post SM
    God Tier: Post mastering the Kyubi.
     
  6. sassuke55 Member

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    This is so obviously an attempt to belittle naruto! A bad attempt at hidding. I could say Sasuke got a weakend itachi still could have beaten him. He didnt beat deidara deidara killed himself. He fought a weakend Orochimaru. See how easy it is to belittle accomplishments and say a person isnt that powerful. Hell sauske couldnt handle bee. Only got his tail meh.
     
  7. Octavian Gomu Gomu no

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    also lol at high kage in kurama mode: dude he would solo the 5 kages...
     
  8. Reddan Active Member

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    He was Chunin level probably around the forest of death.

    Jounin level in power when he fought Sasuke at VOTE with 1 tail, but lacking in many areas.

    Standard Jounin in his base form when he came back from the time skip.

    Kage level after he completed his wind training.

    High Kage Level after SM.

    Even stronger in RM

    Now probably only below Tobi possibly.
     
  9. Melodie ̣

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    By feats i would agree, though if kishi intends to put a fight like that, i believe the Gokage would win or give him extreme difficulty in winning. at the moment, they're fighting against someone so powerful that could bring meteors from the space. we might have seen all of Gaara's potential, but not other kages potential. ( ima give you two examples...Ooinki..; That Guy have basically four elements and he have shown us only two [ Doton and Jinton ], Mei : 5 elements and have shown only three, and in like every affinity she have showed us only one techinque, me myself i wouldn't believe that she have a kekkei genkai for only 1 techinque. )
    Spoiler:
    Given the last chapter too we knew that, all of this power wasn't by only the Kyuubi, but also from Son goku as he have lent him chakra
     
  10. Terra Branford Radioactive Vestige

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    What? :hmm
     
  11. tanman Hardship of Adventure

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    Genin: Chapter 1
    Chunin: Chunin Exam Preliminaries
    Low Jonin: Find Tsunade
    Mid Jonin: Rescue Sasuke
    High Jonin: Post-Skip
    Low Kage: Wind Training
    High Kage: Sage Mode
    Shinobi World Leader: Kyuubi Chakra Mode
    God: Biju Mode
     
  12. N Active Member

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    This is Base Naruto.

    Genin- Post-Shadow Clone Teaching
    Chuunin- During the Chuunin Exams, prolly against Kiba
    Jounin- Beginning of Part 2
    Kage- Current Base Naruto should be more or less Kage Level
     
  13. jimbob631 God of War Guan Yu

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    Naruto was never chunnin level imo, once he learned how to summon Gamabunta he was already on the upper scale of jounin level. Only the strongest jounin can compete with something like Gamabunta. By part 2 even without using kyuubi chakra he was jounin level also and once he completed wind training he was a solid kage level. Senjutsu training put him above kage level.
     
  14. Bart a lion still has claws

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    Genin
    Start of Part I.

    Chunin
    During the Chunin Exams.

    Jounin
    Beginning of Part II, after his training with Jiraiya.

    Kage
    Learning Senjutsu and completing Sage Mode.

    Superman
    Shortly after discovering that he really was from the planet Krypton.

    Naruto the White
    Defeating the Balrog of Morgoth.
     
  15. SaishuSoda Sir

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    Genin-After learning Kage Bushin
    Chunin-Chunin Exams/Summoning Gamabunta
    Low Jounin-Post timeskip
    Mid-High Jounin-Completing Futon :Rasenshuriken
    Mid-Kage- Mastering Sage Mode/Pain Arc
    High-Kage-Beginning of Fourth Ninja War
    Low-Top Tier-Surpassing Raikage's speed in V2
    Top Tier- Syncing chakra with Kurama
     
  16. Bitty

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    Base Naruto: Without any help from Kurama.

    mid Genin: after learning the shadow clone technique.
    high Chunin:after learning the Rasengan
    high Jounin:mastering wind element
    mid Kage: mastering Sage Mode.
     
  17. Skywalker Imperial Conqueror

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    Chunin after he learns Rasengan, Jounin at the start of Start 2, Solid Kage after he learns SM.
     
  18. Empathy Disciple of Thunder

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    He hasn't gotten to Chuunin level just yet. He's still a Genin.
     
  19. joshhookway Better than Kage

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    There's no way that he was jonin at time skip. He showed only two moves and defeated no significant oponent on his own.

    As for wind training, it didn't do him shit. He couldn't even use FRS
     
  20. Philip.J.Fry Tell her she looks thin

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    He was mid kage with RM Mode?

    He pretty much took over the war by himself.
    He fought:

    A ridiculous amount of White Zetsus
    Itachi
    Nagato
    Toroi
    Mu
    Third Raikage
    Madara
    Tobi
    6 jins with a rinnegan and sharingan
    1 tailed beast (pre kyuubi sync)

    All during the same period of time, and you are going to kal him mid-kage level?

    A mid kage would have difficulty (or be destroyed) with anyone on that list, not including Toroi. Not to mention all of them.

    RM Naruto had 13 clones plus the original when he first split up. Those are 14 high-kage level ninja right there.

    I can't tell for certain, but the only people on that list that would stand a chance against 14 RM Narutos are Itachi, Nagato, Madara, and Tobi. And they are all legendary status.

    The notion of Kage Level is outdated at this point. The field is dynamic that low, mid, and high kage level cannot accurately describe someone's rank.

    I can say for sure though, that if you limit it to low,mid, and high kage level, RM Naruto is high kage easy. Calling him mid-kage level is an insult.
     
  21. SaishuSoda Sir

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    Not every Jonin is Kakashi/Gai level. Number of justu is hardly relevant. Neji,Kankuro, and Temari were Low-Jonin level at beginning of timeskip, how was Naruto not at least on par with them battle capabilty wise?
     
  22. Frawstbite Night

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    Genin - In the beginning.
    Chuunin - Summoning Gamabunta.
    Special-Jonin/Extremely High Chuunin - Beginning of part II.
    Jonin - After wind training.
    Low Kage - (current base Naruto W/Giant Rasengan)
    Mid Kage - ???
    High Kage - After he became a sage (Yes, I believe the power boost was ridiculous)
    Expert Ninja:)datass) RM
    Master Ninja:)datass) - Complete RM/Biju Mode
    Grand Master Ninja :)datass) - Whatever is next.
     
  23. stockholmsyndrome Active Member

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    This I get the impression some people take Base Kakashi and Gai as average Jonin instead of being the absolute pinnacle in terms of Jonin ranked Nins and personally I would of placed in skill Naruto to be above Temari, Kankuro and Neji.
     
  24. KiddLaw92 White Lightning

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    Genin: The beginning
    Chunin: Post Chunin Exams
    Jonin: Post timeskip
    Low Kage: Post Futon Training
    High Kage: Post senjutsu
    God: Post Kyubi mastering
     
  25. crisler Active Member

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    genin - beginning

    chunin - skip. i believe at the end of part1 naruto was somewhat between chunin ~genin. his chakra shroud with 1tail...would be at least chunin level but that's purely becuz of his anger.

    jounin - part2 probably jounin

    kage level - SM mode

    mid kage - KM mode

    high kage - current mode.
     
  26. jimbob631 God of War Guan Yu

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    For people saying Naruto was chunnin level with Gamabunta can they name a single chunnin level shinobi that could do anything to Gamabunta. How about Jounins? I can only think of a very select few that could do shit to Gamabunta. Naruto was close to kage level with Gamabunta, he was fighting evenly with a bijuu at that point.

    With kyuubi chakra Naruto was matching Gaara, a shinobi who was likely jounin level seeing as he fought well against Kimimaro who was stated to be Orochimaru's greatest service. Sasuke, Naruto, and Gaara were solidly jounin level by the end of part 1 and one could argue they were all knocking on the door of kage level.
     
  27. yuLeopard DreadZone Champion

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    Genin: Beginning
    Chunin: Chunin Exams
    mid Jonin: End Of Part I & Beginning of Part II
    high jonin: Kakuzu
    Kage: SM
    Above Kage: KM
    God Tier:Full KM V2 and up
     
  28. Laura A Perky Wallflower

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    Kenjutsu? When has Naruto ever used a sword?

    Genin: Kage Bunshin (That's how he qualified)
    Chunin: End of Sasuke retrieval (I reckon that's when he was finally good enough)
    Jonin: Post time skip (He was able to take on the Akatsuki with the help of Kakashi, that's good enough)
    Elite Jonin: Wind rasenshurikan (That was a powerful jutsu to learn)
    Kage: Sage mode (He was bad ass and defeated pain)

    Those are the only real ranks, after Kage, he just went up different levels of saiyan.
     
  29. ownageprince Immortal

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    Genin: Haku battle
    Chunnin: Beats Neji at Chunnin Exams
    Post Time Skip: Low Jounin
    Wind Training: High/Elite Jounin
    Sage Mode: Mid-Kage Level
    Kyuubi Mode Partial: High-Kage Level
    Kyuubi Mode Full: Legend Level
     
  30. Muah HADE BARA BOGE PYA

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    Chunin: fight against orochimaru.

    Jounin: fight against Gaara

    Mid level jounin: fight againt's Sasuke

    High level jounin: After Rasen shuriken training

    Kage level pein arc.
     
  31. Missing_Nin missing ninja

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    chunin-latest is end of the chunin.
    jounin-time skip
    kage-wind training

    now he's godruto.
     
  32. Rosencrantz Active Member

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    Genin level- I suppose the start of the series. He did defeat a chuunin though so it can be argued that he skipped that level altogther. However let's just say that was a fluke and he just had a good tool for that opponent.

    Chuunin- In base he truly becomes chuunin level after his fight with Gaara since we saw how basically beat almost fully transformed Gaara in base by himself. With Kyuubi, he was chuunin level back when he beat Haku. Naruto stays chuunin level in base throughout the rest of part 1 but I believe he hits somewhere between mid-high chuunin level at the end (on the rooftop he matched Sasuke who Genma said was clealy chuunin level before the use of CS/3 tomoe sharingan).

    Jounin- With Kyuubi I would say he hits the low end of Jounin at the end of part 1 with KN0 and KN1. In base he is definitely mid jounin when he comes from the time skip. He was able to use a couple KBs to deal with Kakashi's taijutsu/sharingan prediction+speed and Kakashi even calls his usage "clever." With 1 KB, he fought evenly in taijutsu with a high jounin in the form of Yamato. He did something similar against Chiyo. He has improved his rasengan as well.

    Kage- Naruto is probably low kage level when he hits 3 tails. So he was technically kage level when he came back from the time skip but he could not fully control it. Now he hits kage level in base after his wind training becoming Kakashi's equal showing he is low kage level in base. After SM, Naruto hits mid-high kage level and after Rikudou Mode, he becomes even stronger up to something beyond kage level. This new form takes it over the top to the point where he now stands at the top of the shinobi world.
     
  33. SuperSaiyaMan12 The Seventh Hokage's arrived.

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    Genin: Start of the Series-Wave Arc
    Chunin: Forest of Death
    Jonin: Timeskip
    Kage: Post-Wind Training
    High Kage: Sage Mode
    High Kage +: Nine-Tailed Chakra Mode
    Demi-God: Biju Mode.
     
  34. Coldhands A Thousand Eyes, and One

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    Genin: In the beginning obviously.
    Chunin: In the Chunin Exams arc.
    Jonin: After the timeskip. With Kyubi forms he was already Kage level, but he couldn't really control them.
    Elite Jonin / Low Kage: After Futon training.
    High Kage: After Senjutsu training.
    Elite Kage: After gaining Kyubi Chakra Mode.
    Above Kage level: After gaining Kurama's cooperation.
     
  35. DemonDurai Member

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    What I dont understand is that people here is using Toad summons to put Naruto in jonin or Chunin level. Yet most of the same people here argue that Kubuto Edo Summoning Power does not count towards his level of power. High double standards I see going on here just because Naruto is the hero.:giogio
    DD
     
  36. Stelios Family Guy

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    All this debate about levels... Naruto could never fit in any of those categories HELLLLOOOOOOO he had the strongest tailed beast in his belly since his birth.

    /thread
     
  37. Kanki KIG

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    Agreed........
     
  38. Ghost Active Member

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    Genin: From start to the fight with Gaara.

    Chuunin: After he defeated Gaara.

    low-Jounin: Start of Shippuuden.

    high-Jounin: After defeating Kakuzu with FRS.

    mid-Kage: When mastered Sage Mode.

    beyond-Kage: KCM V1

    demi-god: imperfected KCM V2.
     
  39. G Felon Active Member

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    Yup I'd say like this
     
  40. CheezyTeeth Banned

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    i am so confused with list:confused
     
  41. shintebukuro Active Member

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    ........

    Naruto had no control over Gamabunta. Whatsoever. Gamabunta only helped him against Shukaku because Naruto saved GamaKichi. Had he not done that, Bunta would have just left.

    I think most people understand this and naturally remove Bunta from the equation.

    Gaara made tons and tons of improvement in between fighting Naruto and Kimimaro. Same thing happened with Kankurou and Temari for that time period.

    Also, as soon as Kimimaro used his strongest move, Gaara stood no chance against him.
     
  42. MCHammerdad Active Member

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    Yes.
    Took over?

    He was acting as a sensor with KB.

    I think we saw him kill 1 batalion of white zetsu...

    I think others have killed more, namely kakashi and guy.


    He didn't do shit to Itachi.
    He didn't do shit to Nagato.

    Don't know who this is, so obviously its not impressive.

    You mean... Naruto.. + Garra + OOnki beat Muu....

    Granted. Although had it been a 1v1, Naruto would have undoubtidly been captured and killed.

    All the fodder dying gave him time to think.

    Again..... Naruto + An army VS Madara...

    Your giving him feats he in no way deserves.
    Again... until he fused with Kurama... he was getting his ass handed to him... and would have already lost had it not been for Kakashi/Guy/Bee on multible occasions.


    Naruto hasn't done shit by himself until last chapter.

    ^^ considering he didn't really Accomplish much... Yes... Mid kage.

    Barring his newest mode.

    I can see any of the 5 Kage (barring Tsunade) giving him 1 hell of a run for his money.

    Nearly anyone on that list would have destroyed naruto in a serious 1v1.

    Yes the clones did what?

    They acted as sensors mainly... and fought a few fodder.

    All this is the Kyuubi's chakra...

    These "14" clones... become very weak when you split them up that much... thats why all they did was spot and defend a few fodders from other fodders.

    The clones themselves did nothing of note... (unless backed up significantly)

    (Dat clone isn't included in this)... he's a beast.

    No... Kage is Kage...

    I think the ranks still apply.

    With God of Shinbobi tier being the only thing above it.

    If Narutos poweres with RM2 are permanent... he will officially join God Tier.

    I disagree... I'd call him Mid kage at most.

    Due to him very limited in his area's of excellence... if he was more rounded I'd probably bump him up... but kurenai could beat his ass at this point...


    (Not counting latest chapter)
     
  43. MCHammerdad Active Member

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    Now: to answer the OP:

    Genin: Waterfall Arc.

    Chunnin: Boss summon

    High Chunnin: VOTE

    Potentially weaker then end of Part 1: Beginning part 2 Naruto.

    Jonin: Post wind training.

    High jonin/low kage: SM Naruto.

    Mid Kage: RM Naruto.

    High Kage: Yellowflash/serious RM Naruto.

    God Tier: Last chapter.
     
  44. SuperSaiyaMan12 The Seventh Hokage's arrived.

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    How is Sage Mode Naruto 'low Kage' after defeating Kurama, Sandaime Raikage, and five of Pain's Six Paths? How is Nine-Tailed Chakra Mode 'Mid-Kage'?

    McHammerdad, I know you hate Naruto but come on. He was solid Jonin level when returning from the timeskip too.
     
  45. Saunion Active Member

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    No, that's just butthurt Uchiha fans who try (and fail) to argue that people stronger than their favorite clan of magic eyeballs users have powers that "don't count".

    Naruto became Kage level with Senjutsu. Currently he's so far above it it's not funny.
     
  46. MCHammerdad Active Member

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    Because "defeating kurama" in this case, entailed him pulling chakra away from him.

    If kurama was manifested in the real world... Naruto would be SOL.

    AND, he would have lost terribly if his mother didn't save his ass when he did fight him....


    Again... SM Naruto was repeatedly saved from death at the hands of the sandaime. And his strongest techniques couldn't do anything to him.


    They were severely gimped.

    Deva solo'd him when he got his powers back.

    Because all the kage's are capable of competing with him in that mode.

    I hardly "hate" naruto. I even said in all likelihood he would be immune to 99% of genjutsu with his new mode and officially enter God Tier.
     
  47. SuperSaiyaMan12 The Seventh Hokage's arrived.

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    Naruto defeated and overpowered Kurama. Kurama himself acknowledged his power and was shocked by it.



    Sage Mode Naruto found out the Sandaime Raikage's weakness on his own and one paneled him. And NTM Naruto did basically defeat the Sandaime Raikage if Sandaime was a living person there.



    They were not 'severely gimped'. Deva just lacked his abilities. Naruto basically plowed through them.


    You mean when Naruto is weakened from using a lot of chakra already, they are?


    You do hate Naruto. You bash his Sage Mode, you bash his training, you bash everything he does while gushing for Itachi or Sasuke. You deny things that happened in the manga, you deny his speed and strength increase, and everything.
     
  48. MCHammerdad Active Member

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    Defeated is a relitive term in this case. Naruto pulled out the Kyuubi's Chakra. Yes.

    Again... he was capable of no lasting damage against him... and the only reason he wasn't stomped within seconds is because of his mother and killer bee.

    You cannot claim he defeated the Kyuubi by himself.


    With the Hachibee's help, and acting on both the hachibee and the rubber jonin's information.

    While hundreds of fodder died while stalling for him.


    No way in hell that naruto "soloed" the third raikage.


    Its only 1 paneling when you defeat your oponent on your first offensive atempt...


    This never happened.

    Where did this happen?

    Because we're obviously reading different manga.




    Deva is the only above Jonin path in the bunch.

    Without deva Kakashi could have arguably solo'd the 5 paths of pain.


    And tbh... Kakashi did better than SM Naruto against Pain.

    He lasted quite a while and even had the potential to beat deva and asura.

    While naruto lost to just deva.



    Like deva against naruto? If it doesn't count against pain... then it can't count against naruto.


    And no, I'm not saying he wasn't tired... I'm saying he didn't solo the war.


    So lets go down the list.

    OOnki: Naruto has no counter to his flight and Jinton.

    Mei: Naruto wont' even be able to get close with her mist justu... that was overcoming a partial susanno. Naruto would litterally melt in seconds.

    Raikage: The raikage was casually holding him and bee back with 1 hand. Talk about your "omg yellowflash dodge" all you want. Raikage to me is still faster until Naruto goes RM2. And even then until we see more feats I'm putting them even.

    If raikage was going for the kill Naruto would be in trouble.

    Tsunade: dies terribly.

    Garra: I'm not really thinking garra can do much to RM Naruto. So I'm gonna say RM takes it handily.


    So Naruto can beat 2/5 kage's.

    Making him... Mid kage tier.

    I do not.
    I do not.

    Nope.
    Don't think I've mentioned either of those 2 in this thread....
    that happen?

    I would have to disagree.
    No, SM naruto is only slightly faster than base naruto.

    I'm not denying anything.

    Strength?

    I think the latest chapter with him succesfully pushing out the stake while RM1 Naruto coudln't is indication enough that he's insanely strong.
     
  49. jimbob631 God of War Guan Yu

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    This is a fair point, however after that battle I'm sure Bunta would've aided Naruto and by the time Naruto faced Sasuke he had the prerequisite to summon him which was use of nine tails chakra.



    He made improvement compared to his fights against Lee and Sasuke, but Lee had no idea how powerful Gaara's jinchuriki modes were.

    Again we're talking about someone who was considered Orochimaru's greatest servant, putting him above Kabuto and Kakashi. The fact that Gaara even competed speaks to how strong he is.

    I also didn't mention Naruto's use of rasengan, which allowed him to defeat Kabuto, one of the strongest jounin in the manga. People underestimate Sasuke, Naruto, and Gaara, its clear from these facts that by that time they were already beyond chunnin level. Can you see someone like part II Choji pre butterfly wings competing with them? I have a hard time even seeing someone like Asuma winning, and thats not even taking into account Naruto and Sasuke's powerups at VOTE which most defientely place them at the jounin level.
     
  50. Artful Lurker &#32

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    Jounin>>>>>>>Haku>>>>>Naruto

    Kage=When he first went 4 tails
     

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