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What if Kakashi had the byakugun instead of the sharigan?

Discussion in 'Konoha Library' started by jplaya2023, Sep 27, 2011.

  1. G-Man It Ain't Easy Being G...

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    Would the Hyuuga even allow him to keep the eye? I mean, these are the people who gladly enslave their own kin and force brothers to sacrifice each other just to keep their bloodline in the family. I still have no idea how Kakashi was allowed to keep his Sharingan. You'd think the Uchiha would be nagging the Hokage to death over that crap. At the very least I doubt Byakugan Kakashi uses Jyuuken if only because the Hyuuga would go APE$#!+ if he did.

    In any event, the first fight with Zabuza would be harder. He'd be able to see through the mist, sure, and even have a better chance of avoidng getting caught, but without Sharingan hypnosis he's not beating Zabuza right away. He'll win, but he'll be roughly as drained as he was in canon. Also, he can't kill Azabuza, even though he knows Zabuza is still alive, because then he'd have to fight Haku and doing so while exhausted is suicide.

    Second fight is anyone's guess. Zabuza isn't stupid. He wouldn't rely on the mist knowing its worthless so he'll have some different strategy in mind. Depends entirely on what he Zabuza's new plan is really.

    He does fine during the Invasion (if he survives Zabuza's second fight). Nothing noteworthy.

    Itachi still stomps him and makes hundreds of Hyuugatards rage in the process.

    No Kamui means Deidara wrecks his $#!+ though. He eventually gets blown up, Naruto goes nuts and no one can stop him, and Deidara runs away until Naruto burns himself out then collects the kid. Rescue Gaara Arc ends in disaster (after collecting the unconcious Naruto Deidara returns to the cave, finishes off the weakened Sakura and Chiyo, and hands Naruto off to Zetsu and Tobi/Madara. Rescue Naruto Arc is just Leaf and Sand blindly searching around because they have no clue where Naruto is and Naruto losing Kyuubi. Even if he survives the extraction the Akatsuki would notice and kill him. Manga ends eventually with Madara ruling over the world thanks to his Mugen Tsukiyomi.
     
  2. tgm2x There is only despair.

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    Kakashi would be dead/fodder:quite
     
  3. The_Evil Hand of God

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    -No coping = no 1000 jutsu kakashi

    -No Sharingan ability to see at high speeds and predict counterattacks = Raikiri is usless

    - Hyuuga being neurotic, paranoid asess = no Gentle fist for Kakashi

    - No MS = No Kamui

    In other words Kakashi would have to create whole new figthing style for himself to stay relevant.
     
  4. KingBoo Active Member

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    he would have died a long time ago.
     
  5. Addy itachi is everywhere!!

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    sharingan kakashi is already fodder :( byakugan is just over kill
     
  6. Wizard Sorcerer Supreme

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    OBITO would be alive!!
    kakashi wouldn't have raikiri and probably like 20-30 jutsus: he would be dead
     
  7. Fatback Banned

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    Kakashi's popularity is almost destroyed before Kakashi decides to replace byakugan with a marble as they equate to the same thing and the marble looks cooler
     
  8. MS81 Supreme Jounin

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    now if he had Byakugan in his other eye along with Sharingan, he'll be invincible....= world choas....:kthumb
     
  9. The Space Cowboy Unfair, Unjust, Human Advisor

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    I'm pretty sure that conversation went something like this

    Random Uchiha Pricks: Give us the eye Kakashi.
    Kakashi: How about no.
    Random Uchiha Pricks: Uh, okay then.

    If Kakashi had gotten a Byakugan in similar circumstances, I'm bettering there's nothing the Hyuuga could do about it. I mean, are you really going to piss off the 4th Hokage in wartime?
     
  10. momma bravo Member

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    it's not the sharingan that makes him Kakashi, it's Kakashi that makes it the sharingan.

    :datass:gun
     
  11. Malv213 Crypt Fiend

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    Don't even joke about that, I might cry.

    To the OP: He'd still be strong. Kakashi's still got excellent general talent as a ninja, and remember, he'd adapt his fighting style to match the Byakugan instead.
     
  12. UchihaSage Girl Power

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    Kakashi would have concentrated more on his intelligence and become a lot like Shikamaru
    Kakashi's intelligence is kage level, on the same lvel as shikamaru, itachi, and minato
     
  13. Hokage Active Member

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    Kakashi was already considered as a genius before he got Sharingan. At a ridiculously young age he was able to create chidori. Ok he couldn't use it effectively without sharingan but Im sure that he could have adapted it to become effective. Not to forget that he's the white fang son and Minato's disciple so he could have picked jutsus from these great influences and adapted them to his style.

    I think that the sharingan has actually weakened Kakashi. It made him lazier and he felt obliged to develop it further as a legacy towards its previous owner (Obito believed to be the Sakura version of the Uchiha). That may have limited his potential since he focused on developing an asset which wasn't really designd for him.
     
  14. santanico those vivid days...

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    This :distracted
     
  15. Judecious Active Member

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    He would be stronger. His stamina would run out as fast :maybe
     
  16. santanico those vivid days...

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    did you forget what the Uchiha did to each other? :zaru
     
  17. King Of Gamesxx Heh

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    He would have died when Itachi Tsukuyomi'd him. His sharingan eye was the only thing that let him live.
     
  18. GunX2 Trollin A

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    Kakashi of the byakugan?...i think Kakashi with anything is alittle awesome.
     
  19. Haloman Fair and Balanced

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    Um...

    It would probably go almost exactly like this:

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    Yeah. ... Yeah.
     
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  20. Good Boy Turned Bad Member

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    :hmm Kakashi with a Byakugan, I think the differences would be

    He would not have 1000 jutsu, it would be more like 50 but they would be 20 times stronger.
    He would have more stamina and chakra as the Byakugan would be less stressful on his body.
    Raikiri as we know it would be changed. With Sharingan the Raikiri is a running high speed thrust, with the Sharingan giving you a counter to any counterattack. With the Byakugan an its ability to see the chakra points and channels, the Raikiri would be an up close high speed poke & slice(maybe just poke) combo that stabs charka points & cuts chakra channels.

    Team 7 Vs Zabuza & Haku. Zabuza being a water ninja & Kakashi being lighting ninja would have an easier time beating Zabuza with stronger lighting jutsu an more stamina.

    Kakashi Vs Itachi. It didn't matter if Kakashi had the Sharingan, Byakugan, Rinnegan or regular eyes, once he was caught in Tsukiyomi the match was over.

    In the Chuunin exams Sasuke would still be able to learn the Chidora(this would be its first appearence) by appling the Sharingan to it. Kabuto would of had a harder time getting away.

    Deidara Vs Kakashi. Diedara would be at a disadvantage to a more lighting jutsu & stamina based Kakashi, without Kamui it would take longer not just for Kakashi but Diedara too, as his lighting jutsu would diffuse most of his earth jutsu.

    Pain Vs Kakashi. This fight Kakashi would still outclassed. Chouji probably would have die or Kakashi's death would be different maybe even both of them would be die...

    Kakashi Vs Edo Zabuza. I see it play out basically the same, its still a bad match up for Edo Zabuza & Haku.
     
  21. izanagi x izanami Active Member

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    weaker taijutsu and speed development,if better chakra control comes with bykakuan not with hyuuga blood then....juuken development,

    no 1000 jutsu
    no raikiri
    no genjutsu
    no kamui
    no copy ninja nickname (probably no nickname at all....since byakugan and huuyga clan is not famous and haxx as sharingan and uchiha clan)
    can't see jutsu mechanism
    can see 10 km distance

    overall ....strong hyuuga nin ,
     
  22. bach Member

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    why everyone says that kakashi with byakugan would have no raikiri?
    he himself said that byakugan is better in foresight (prediction) than 3 tomoe sharingan...

    so the only difference would be:
    no 1000 jutsu;
    no kamui;
    more stamina;
    best scout ever
     
  23. Hasan Active Member

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    He would still be able to learn all those techniques. Just ask Hiruzen. :zaru He's a genius and it shouldn't be a problem for him to learn all those techniques even without the sharingan.
     
  24. Haloman Fair and Balanced

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    Kakashi said it was better in insight. Not foresight.

    We've never seen the Byakugan used as a method for predicting the path of enemies.

    And if the Byakugan were better than a 3-Tomoe Sharingan, why couldn't Neji predict Naruto's movements in KN0? Sasuke was able to predict Naruto's movements in KN0 with a 3-tomoe Sharingan.

    The Byakugan doesn't have "prediction" like the Sharingan does.
     
  25. posternojutsu Member

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    I doubt water prison or the other suiton used by Zabuza would matter much if Kakashi had Byakugun. Kakashi would probably be able to use advanced techniques from the clan (as he does with Sharingan). If Kakashi has Kaiten and can do chakra release from his entire body it would be another Neji vs Kisame situation...where Neji broke out of the water prison on his own. Kaiten would deflect the Suiton and it would come down to hand to hand combat.

    I think Zabuza goes down either way but the fight would end with taijutsu.
     
  26. Summers look at my sig

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    He would use more long range Jutsu.
     
  27. Schiffer Gentlemen Bastard

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    He would probably be just as strong , well the is sharingan is pretty haxx Kakashi himself is what make it good. He would adapt is combat style to fit with the Byakugan. Even before he got the sharingan he was already a jounin and had learn the rasengan and create his own justu. He would be just as famous with the Byakugan as he is with the sharingan.
     
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  28. jplaya2023 My Canon >>> Your Opinions

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    he got the sharigan around 12-13. You sure he was a jounin? i know he was a squad leader or something
     
  29. Tobirama Senju 二代目火影

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    aye and his own teammates in process due bein unable to control his kyuubi mode, heh that'd be funny.
     
  30. Vice Redeemed

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    The point is that the only reason Kakashi was able to keep up with Zabuza's superior taijutsu is because that's exactly the thing Sharingan does. The Byakugan isn't a get out of jail free card the way the Sharingan is. The Sharingan instantly boosts your speed, boosts your reflexes, boosts your insight and boosts your genjutsu offense and defense. All byakugan does is give you greater sight. It's not going to help him the way Sharingan did.

    It's also debatable whether the byakugan can even see through Hidden Mist since all they would see is a huge wall of chakra.
     
  31. bach Member

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    @halo2288

    i don't think so
    insight in english means intuition... so i think it has this ability
     
  32. Kiss SS: It's canon bitch

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    Maybe he wouldn't get exhausted so quickly.
     
  33. ?Sharingan Squid? Dapper as fuck

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    Byakugan instantly turns their owners into fodder.
     
  34. Haloman Fair and Balanced

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    Intuition doesn't mean the ability to see your opponent's movements.

    Intuition is more like what he was doing with Hinata.

    "You just looked up to the left, meaning you were recalling a painful memory."

    "Your eyes then darted to the lower right, meaning..."

    Etc.

    I think that's what Kakashi meant seeing as he said that right around that part of the pre-fight.
     
  35. Susano'o この世界に興味はない。

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    He wouldn't need to read Make Out Tactics to get his... excitement.

    :villa
     
  36. HiddenCornsHandsomeDevil Active Member

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    ...Byakugan is a just a glorified pair of binoculas...Sharingan can actually hurt, control and read people...Thread should be what if Kakashi had both!
     
  37. Naruto Fighto Active Member

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    The only way to battle rinegan sharingan Madara......meet byakugan sharingan Kakashi. It is time.
     
  38. HiddenCornsHandsomeDevil Active Member

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    Of course he'd need to kill Gai to unlock the platnum Byakugan to do it...but it's concieveable!!!!
     
  39. Naruto Fighto Active Member

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    But in his attempt to kill Gai, Gai kills Kakashi and takes his eyes. Meet 8 gates sharingan byakugan Gai, the only one stronger than rinegan Madara. But that was Kakashi's plan all along......
     
  40. Kdol Filipina

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    what is byakugan? is that even in the manga?
     
  41. implantsharingan Member

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    kakashi will get Ao's byakugan swap with zabuza' sword
     
  42. Gabe Murim Grand Master

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    he will go into obscurity and because a glorified binocular. and get owned twice as fast as he usually does. also he would not be able to use raikiri or have 100 jutsus anymore. instead of kakashi the copy ninja he will became kakashi the binocular ninja.
     
  43. Gabe Murim Grand Master

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    i think the reason he was able to use the chidor with the sharingan because he could predict movements and the byakugan does not do this.
     
  44. Sarry The guy sniping you out!

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    Lets see:
    The only decent Hyuuga, in terms of power, and he didn't show much after fighting the sound 4. While the Uchiha basically were badass [in the extreme examples we have.]

    Kakashi will be different, for sure. But let's face it, I am pretty sure even Kishi forgot about the Byakugan. Kakashi deserves some more diverse and powerful, aka the Sharingan.
     
  45. Sarry The guy sniping you out!

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    Not quite.
    X

    As Minato says, the movement is too fast, and I doubt the Byakugan can detect close movements like the Sharingan does at that speed.
     
  46. Naklin Light

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    Then he wouldn't be going to the hospital as much :LOS
     
  47. Grimmjowsensei True Hokage

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    He used genjutsu on Zabuza in the end of their confrontation. Which gave him the edge in the suiton clash.
    So yeah, he might have lost it @ that point. With the assumption that he made it that far.
     
  48. titantron91 God Killer

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    Kakashi will be more of a recon fighter than an analytic CQC fighter.

    No chakra drains (coz Byakugan can be deactivated)

    No Sharingan abilities (motion tracking, jutsucopy, genjutsu, Kamui)
     
  49. Sartharion The Onyx Guardian

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    Kakashi without Sharingan is like Naruto without Shadow clones.
     
  50. Appleofeden Active Member

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    Kakashi-sharingan+Byakugan=Ao
     

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