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Unresticted Tier List Construction Thread

Discussion in 'Konoha Training Grounds' started by Kinjishi, Jan 14, 2016.

  1. Reznor Administrator Administrator

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    1. Naruto always gets overhyped once he gets a new power. Once that hype wears off, we see Naruto humbled a bit more. I think it's always better to treat Naruto as an outlier.
    While Naruto and Sasuke are vastly superior to everyone else, it's probably not by as much as the Kaguya stuff would have us believe.

    2. Sakura is prob low Kage and her style is one that makes catching someone off guard a death sentence.
     
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    Seven Gates max. Probably top tier.
     
  3. Reznor Administrator Administrator

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    8 gates Gai is prob too powerful still.
     
  4. Sloth You're not alone.

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    K. Just making sure. I personally consider 8G > Narutoverse. IMO, Gai won that fight against Madara, but then just missed his kill shot.

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    Had Night Gai connected with Madara's face, it would have been Game Over.
     
  5. Kinjishi <marquee loop="true"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/

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    Tobi... 2nd or 3rd tier? I'm pretty confident he's not 1st tier. But can't decide his price.
     
  6. Dr. White Smell nice? it's Moonflower

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    2nd Tier IMO. He is extremely well balanced, and basically has an easy one hit KO.
    Offense: Large Katon, Mokuton, Array of weapons, Chakra Chains, Super strength.
    Defense: Zetsu Suit which pretty much allowed him to tank Rasengan, Hiding Doton, Regen, Gunbai Deflection, Uchiha Barrier.
    Hax: Kamui BFR, Genjutsu, Soul Removal, and Izanagi.

    Add to that his great reactions, and giving him too much quality support would make him really OP.
     
  7. Sloth You're not alone.

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    I'm not really sure what this says about him one way or the other, but he did almost get his skull cracked by base Gai.

    My first reaction is like, "What, the dude can ghost out of anything, but damn near gets rocked by a pair of nunchucks?" :notrust

    At the same time, it is Gai, who does have over a decade of experience developing counter-sharingan tactics; and who is hands-down the best taijutsu fighter in the series - bar none.
     
  8. Reznor Administrator Administrator

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    Actually, I find that to be a good thing.
     
  9. Kinjishi <marquee loop="true"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/

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    He took a Rasengan to the face. I don't think nunchucks would've made a dent, even if God Gai was swinging them.
     
  10. BringerOfChaos ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Why I wouldn't mind that narrative, I don't think anyone would follow it in the KC or BD unfortunately.

    Or maybe his mask is Susanoo level :maybe
     
  11. Dr. White Smell nice? it's Moonflower

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    ET for starting this thang?
     
  12. Reznor Administrator Administrator

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    It's a huge headache if you don't realize that Naruto himself is very inconsistent.

    A lot of people take some of these things too face value, insist that it's the only interpretation, and then say "Wait, this didn't make any sense" once scenes aren't in line with their previous interpretation, but then refuse to correct that interpretation.

    Everytime Naruto gets a new powerup, he gets some kind of hype, but then he's down back to earth in fights afterward.
     
  13. Dr. White Smell nice? it's Moonflower

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    Also are we allowing Minato to keep his KCM Mode, and Kyuubi arms....
     
  14. Reznor Administrator Administrator

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    Also, as far as plug-and-play eyes go, I think that Madara having some unspecified technique for doing so makes much more sense than just believing that's how eyes work in this world.

    What are thoughts on Susanoo Kakashi?
     
  15. KyuubiFan Active Member

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    Madara has his regeneration, that pretty much explains p&p for him. That and him being Madara.

    Minato was allowed to have Sage Mode but no KCM if I remember well. We did restrict his clones to avoid double Shiki Fuuin shenaningans, right?

    No Susano'o for Kakashi, he has only 1 Sharingan after all.
     
  16. Reznor Administrator Administrator

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    Right, but would it be worth it to put in 2xSharigan Kakashi?
     
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    :dafuq

    No PS for Kakashi and his other Susanoo forms are featless. Plus we really don't need another Susanoo.
     
  18. KyuubiFan Active Member

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    If we allow DMS Kakashi then I'll play with Rinne Sharingan Madara.


    With Kinjishi being so busy it's hard to keep track of all the new changes nd restrictions. We should've used the good old tghread-for-character method.
     
  19. Dr. White Smell nice? it's Moonflower

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    And then what's stopping one from using 40 year old genin.
     
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    That's complete conjecture. Plug-and-play is exactly what the sharingan has always been.

    Tobi, who is no medic, popped one into every jinchuriki. Orochimaru, while admittedly an outlier, managed to stick a bunch of them into an arm and a skull (or did dude do that to himself?). They obviously play well with other devices.

    Hell, for generations stealing your kinsmens eyes for yourself was just another Tuesday.
     
  22. Kinjishi <marquee loop="true"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/

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    Tier List is pretty much done. It's in the OP. Look thru it, if anything stands out to anyone that you think should be changed then let us know.
     
  23. Dr. White Smell nice? it's Moonflower

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    Let's get this party started
     
  24. KyuubiFan Active Member

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    You forgot to restrict double SF for Minato and Oonoki's Jinton lightsaber form.
     
  25. Reznor Administrator Administrator

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    Cool.

    I'm game.
     
  26. Sloth You're not alone.

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    Wait, how can we ban ET for Tobirama, but then give him his infinite explosion? Those tags are made out of the scraps that come off an ET zombie.

    I really don't think letting him have it is a big deal, just limit him to reviving those that have died in the match. It basically never works anyway, and with this being UT, there will be plenty of other, way more op, shenaningens for people to screw around with anyway.

    If we had, this tournament would have almost certainly flat-lined.
     
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    To be fair, we don't know how good Tobirama is at Edo Tensei. Based on statements and feats, I'd assume Kabuto > Orochimaru > Tobirama.

    Oro figures out how to bring back the Hokage, but the fact that Kabuto can fight a whole war himself is pretty ridiculous. Tobirama, however, invented it and didn't build on it in nearly the capacity that Oro and Kabuto did.

    I might advocate just slapping a numerical Edo limit on Tobirama and calling it a day.
     
  28. Dr. Leonard Church away fighting dragons

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    Uh, Kakashi? No restrictions on double Mangekyo, no restrictions on any of that other crap he pulled out of his ass.
     
  29. KyuubiFan Active Member

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    He only had that when Rinbito's spirit went into him or whatever it was.
     
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    Pretend it's a suicide attack like C0.
     

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