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Tier List (For a Tournament)

Discussion in 'Hunter x Hunter' started by Intus Legere, Jul 15, 2017.

  1. Intus Legere ̣#TeamHisoka

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    Once upon a time there were tournament sections for Naruto, Bleach and One Piece. Hunter x Hunter never had one of those, but I think it is a much better manga for these kind of events.

    Basically, you make a team of characters (say, Illumi + Killua or Chrollo + Phinks + Toccino) and using a strategy, you beat the enemy team. This idea is basically why I've been asking a lot of questions regarding power levels.

    Ideally, I'd like to get this started -- if there is enough interest -- as quickly as possible, since the shadow of the hiatus is always upon us. As long as we can agree on a tier list, character prices and rules, as long as we get 8/16 people ready to go, we get going.

    Spoiler: Tier List

    [48]
    Chrollo Lucilfer (Dark Continent Arc)

    [42]
    Zeno Zoldyck
    Chrollo Lucilfer (Yorkshin Arc)
    Reiza

    [36]
    (CA) Killua Zoldyck (Chimera Ant arc)
    Hisoka Morrow
    Uvogin
    Feitan
    Silva Zoldyck
    Illumi Zoldyck
    Morel Mackernasey

    [30]
    Knov
    Knuckle Bine
    Shoot McMahon
    Zazan
    Cheetu
    Shizuku

    [24]
    (CA) Gon Freecs
    Palm Siberia
    Phinks
    Shalnark

    [20]
    Kastro
    Bloster
    Welfin
    Goreinu

    [16]
    Pakunoda
    Kortopi
    Dog (Shadow Beasts)
    Genthru
    Gotoh

    [12]
    (GI) Gon
    (GI) Killua
    Ikalgo
    Worm (Shadow Beasts)
    Pike (Spider Chimera Ant)
    Boki (Manipulator Chimera Ant)
    Rammot

    [10]
    Leorio
    Baise
    Owl (Shadow Beasts)
    Hollow (Owl Chimera Ant)
    Bat Chimera Ant

    [8]
    Porcupine (Shadow Beast)
    Sub
    Bara
    Ortho Siblings

    [6]
    Melody
    Leech (Shadow Beast)
    Shacmono Toccino
    Flutter
    Dopple
    Gorilla Chimera Ant
    Centipede Chimera ant
    Wasp Chimera Ant

    [4]
    Bill
    Pokkle
    Baro (Armadillo Chimera Ant)
    Rhino (Rhino Chimera Ant)
    Bombardier Beetle Chimera Ant

    [3]
    (YNA) Killua
    (YNA) Gon

    [2]
    Binolt
    Dalzonelle

    [1]
    Guido
    Sadaso
    Riehlvelt


    Teams have by default 76 points.
    Rules will in general be taken from the Konoha Colosseum: here (http://www.narutoforums.com/posts/31483427/).

    FAQ:

    CHARACTER X is stronger than CHARACTER Y. What's the deal?


    Strength is not the only factor: knowledge, being able to track, strategy diversity, and potential for hax are extremely important. Meleoron might be much weaker than Illumi, but might be as valuable as him in a team due to hax. Points are used to make such hax combinations costly or impossible, e.g. Meleoron + Baise.

    Why should powers be restricted?

    Because some powers are game breaking. There is a metagame. In order to keep the metagame as variable as possible, uber hax powers shouldn't be allowed.


    [EDIT]

    Also we should discuss a few characters, if they should be included or not; and a few powers.

    Namely:

    Kurapika (he has restrictions regarding chains that make him very situational)
    Kite / Kaito (random weapon factor, how to deal with it)
    Meleoron (hax through the roof)
    Chrollo's knife (put it in Killua's or Cheetu's hand and it's gg no re)
    Biscuit (Bisky is supposed to be uber strong in her gorilla form, but not enough to go by. I'm not against including her in normal form, though.)



    More to come later, if there is enough interest. Please, comment on the tier list, tell me if you're interested in participating, etc.
     
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2017
  2. Dr. White Smell nice? it's Moonflower

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    We don't have enough people for this but I was heavily involved in KC and later Davy back so I could help if we ever got enough peeps
     
  3. 2Broken The Madness of Wisdom

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    I mostly lurk now, but I planned to start posting again since I graduated.

    In a week or so I may be able to contribute considerably to this, assuming a few others display interest.
     
  4. Intus Legere ̣#TeamHisoka

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    @Dr. White : I know. Did you check the tier list? I need opinions on that. I guess there aren't enough people around either, but I'd love to get this to work.

    @2Broken : Glad to hear it. I remember you in the KC, though when you joined the KC I was already leaving.
     
  5. charles101 Well-Known Member

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    If CI Killua was stronger than Illumi, why would he run away from him?
     
  6. Intus Legere ̣#TeamHisoka

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    This is not about who is stronger than who. It's about utility.

    - Goreinu isn't stronger than Genthru, in fact he's clearly weaker. But he has a hax ability and costs more than Genthru because of that.
    - Shizuku isn't stronger than Phinks, but her ability is uber powerful in teams. As long as the other team has bruised, Deme-chan can suck their blood until they are dry.
    - Killua's (and Cheetu's) speed is very useful in combination tactics. Put Chrollo's poisoned benz knife on Killua's hands: GG no re, ezpz.
    - Killua at 36 can't be used with Chrollo (Team have 72 points max. 42 + 36 = 78). Though Cheetu at 30 is still a problem, and he could use Chrollo's benz knife. Or maybe Chrollo's knife is the problem.
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2017
  7. Diivil1 New Member

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    Mt favorite tier list are the 5 tiers of the black whale
     
  8. 2Broken The Madness of Wisdom

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    Yeah I really enjoyed the KC, too bad it died out.
     

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