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[theory] The Inherited Will, "One Piece"

Discussion in 'Ohara Library' started by kukriBlades, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. kukriBlades Member

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    I got like 40 blocks of rep for this post. Thanks guys, I'm eternally grateful. :'-)

    Spoiler:
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    THE INHERITED WILL, "ONE PIECE"



    Okay, this is the 6th forum I'm posting this theory in... This is gonna be a very long read but I guarantee It will be worth your while.

    You might have heard similar theory somewhere but I can assure you this ain’t copy of them because I made it way back then in 2008. I have been updating this theory a few times and sharing it to my fellow Indonesians on net. Been thinking to spread it to wider fanbase but I was having a hard time converting it to english(I’m not really good at it ^^; )
    nevertheless, I tried and finished it... so here we go.





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    "THE VOID CENTURY"


    Let’s summarize things first :

    As we know, there was an age called “The Void Century” in OP’s world timeline. Except Roger’s pirate, not a single living soul on this planet have any idea what the really happened within that gap.

    However an Oharan archelogoist, Profesor Clover, had a slight hint about it. He told us that in that time there was once stood a prosperous and powerful ancient kingdom that ruled over the ocean. However, They had a certain enemy. This enemy felt threaten by the kingdoms existence and their certain ‘policy’. So then they invaded the kingdom and succeded. The kingdom was fallen to shred and somehow, the enemy managed to wipe out every single information about them from history.

    Coincidentally, The end of the kingdom’s reign also marked the end of The Void Century. At the same time, an organization called The World Government was built for the first time. Clover had a theory that the WG was none other than the enemy itself.

    Now let’s enter the theory :





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    "THE HIDDEN PATTERN"




    There are 3 things that cannot be stopped :

    Men’s Dream
    The Flow of Time
    Inherited Will

    As long as people continue to seek the true meaning of freedom, they will never ceased to be!



    -- Gol D. Roger --

    As these words first appeared in chapter 100, they seems pretty meaningless tome. I took them as nothing more than some random cool quotes.

    However, as sthe story goes deeper, I realized (and some of you might have figured it out as well) that One Piece story has been consistenly following those 3 things : Man’s Dream, The Flow of Time, Inherited Will.

    Let’s see :




    I only picked 3 examples, but there are actually more of them. So, anyone captured the big picture I’m getting at? or not? well, Here is what I meant :


    That’s right, starting from the first chapter up till now, the storyline has ALWAYS been following this very pattern. I’m quite surprised myself, we’ve been through this pattern over and over again, though I’m sure fery few people are awared of it. I call it “the golden pattern” (because Gold Roger created it).

    This made me think, wouldn’t Roger has the pattern of his own as well? My curiosity was finally answered in chapter 576.

    Spoiler:
    X

    Spoiler:
    X


    So apperantly Roger had this will, a will that has been inherited for hundred years. And he waited for certain somoene to carry on this will… somehow it also has something to do with One Piece.

    So what’s is this all about? What was Roger’s will exactly?






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    "ROGER’S DREAM"


    The Golden Pattern (starting from here everything is 100% theory)

    MEN’S DREAM
    Roger’s will that Whitebeard was talking about, it actually wasn’t his original will. Roger inherited it as well from waaay back then, from 800 years ago to be precised. Yes, it was originally the will of The Ancient Kingdom (let’s call it AK from now on).

    The AK was a big kingdom, it ruled over almost the whole world (just like WG does now). They apparently also had a pretty-advanced civilization. One could say that there’s almost nothing they couldn’t achieve with everthing they got at the time.

    However they had an issue. As we know, the planet of OP contains of big four seas, east, west, north, and south, each were separated by the Red Line and the Grand Line. The AK saw Red Line and Grand Line as a big obstacle because they have been been preventing people from traveling from one sea to another, thus preventing the AK from reaching its full prosperity as well.

    And So they made this project, an insane one, but has to be done. The project was about eliminating the Red Line and Grand Line to fuse the 4 seas into one big ocean, the united ocean. The called it the project of “One Piece”. In order to do so, they started to build some weapons which will be strong enough to destroy the red line (later called Ancient Weapons)

    It turned out that not everybody was pleased by this project.. you know, politics. Some other kingdoms were totally against it, they smell a conspiracy was playing behind it. But the AK stood their ground no matter what. Guess what happened next? a huge war broke out. It’s the AK vs 20 kingdoms who were against the prject of "One Piece”.

    The 20 kingdoms came out as the victor and they declared themselves as The World Government. Meanwhile the AK was reduced to shred, along with all their historiy, and the “One Piece” project was never heard again since then.


    THE FLOW OF TIME
    Unexpectedly, The AK has anticipated their downfall. Before the war begun they had carved historical notes on these certain metals which as hard as diamond(later called the poneglyphs) and hid them throughout the world, along with the weapons they’ve built. The AK really wanted to make sure that their desire wouldn’t die in case of anything bad happened to them.

    the WG was mad with this fact and completetely prohibit any form of poneglyph dechipering.

    but it's too late, the will has been passing through ages since then… silently waiting for someone to recieve the massage.


    THE INHERITED WILL
    800 years has passed, a pirate named Roger sucessfully reach Raftel and discovered the true history. He knows exactly what to do, but unfortunately his body didn’t allow him to… he had this incurable disease, remember? whereas the project needs a lot of power and time to complete, 2 things that Roger didn’t have that time.

    Therefore, he decided to create The Golden Age of Piracy instead, hoping that there will appear someone who is strong and righteous enough to complete the massage in his place.

    Who will be that ‘someone’? I think we all know the answer. :D


    *continued on the next post
     
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  2. kukriBlades Member

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    [Theory]The Inherited Will, "One Piece"

    "THE PROJECT OF ONE PIECE"


    Now… how exactly does this project work? Will fusing 4 seas into a united ocean make Luffy’s journey worthy?


    Let me explain it… It’s gonna be a bit technical so I’ll include some ilustrations.


    So here is roughly how the globe looks like.

    X
    Chapter 51, page 4

    X
    Chapter 71, page 4

    And this is the flat(word?) version :

    Spoiler:
    X


    The idea of “One Piece” is to create a united ocean, a perfect ocean to sail. Therefore we have two jobs : fusing all the seas into one and eliminating Grand Line abnormality. GL’s abnormality? Is that even possible?

    Apparently it is possible for the AK scientists. The trick is destroy a spot where every sea on the planet (north, west, east, south, grand line, new world, and calm belt) meet in one place. There is a spot like that? Actually, there are two, and both need to be destroyed. The two spots are reverse mountain and mariejoa/fishman island.

    a simple ilustration :

    Spoiler: Reverse Mountain
    X


    And here is the meeting spot, the circled area one :

    Spoiler: the meeting spot
    X


    Think for a moment there… It made sense right? Mariejoa/fishman island also has a similar geography (minus the reverse canals).

    The meeting spot are set. Next, the ancient weapons will do their job : annihilating those spots.

    Ok let’s do it to reverse mountain first… FIRE IN THE HOLE!!

    Spoiler:
    X


    Even with the mighty power of the ancient weapons, the annihilation must be calculated and done correctly to get the wanted effect. If succeed, this what will happen next :

    Spoiler:
    X


    Losing a huge mass of land, The sea became even more unstable than before, a big whirlpool will appeared on the center of destruction spot, storms and tidal wave occuring everywhere. However they’re only temporary, after a couple days the raging storm shall be subsided.

    And then, the magic began…

    disastrous random-weather on grand line and NW suddenly doesn’t occur anymore
    the magnetic field which make a normal compass useless are completely gone
    Even the wind starting to blow on Calm Belt

    How about sea monsters? Well, this is the time where Poseidon come to play. The Poseidon has fully taken control of the sea king and make them some kind of ‘police’ of the ocean to prevent other sea monsters from going wild. (yes I do think this is very possible)

    The ideal united ocean is finally created . The project of One Piece officialy succeeded!!


    But is that it???


    It’s not. There’s actually one more after-effect, and it’s the most important one.

    The big whirlpool that appeared after the destruction of reverse mountain, It happened because the water mass of the four seas simultaneously flowed into the center of destruction -- the place where reverse mountain was stood once. Logically, that means every kind of living things which originally lives in four seas were brought there as well. You literally could find every fish species from all over the world here.

    Wait, was that sounds familiar? Exactly, the destruction spot has became that legendary mythical sea…

    Spoiler:
    X

    The Legendary ALL BLUE


    The United Ocean and the legendary All Blue

    At least 6 of Strawhats’s dream will be accomplished because of these achievementt.

    Spoiler:
    Luffy -> he wanted to be the pirate king, “the man who has the most freedom in the ocean”. now that the ocean has been united, Luffy has literally achieved this feat.

    Sanji -> it's obvious, he finally found the All Blue

    Nami -> now that the entire ocean is free to sail, drawing world map is not so impossible anymore

    Franky -> same reason with Nami, Sunny now can travel all over the world

    Robin -> all of this happened because she found out the true history

    Brook -> Ever wonder how Brook will return to the Twin Cape to meet Laboon? It seems impossible because the reverse mountain was in the way. But now, it’s GONE! They’ll meet again with ease, Bink’s Sake will be played along their emotional reunion. It will be a perfect moment.


    How do you think??



    Now how about the spot at mariejo/fishman island ??











    “THE PROMISED DAY”

    Spoiler: Luffy will destroy FI??
    X


    Spoiler: it might be a year into the future
    X


    This mermaid… she didn’t lie at all. nor she’s wrong. She was actually foreseeing the event we’ve been talking about : the project of One Piece. And It is indeed Luffy who will trigger the event.


    The ancestor of FI were actually well awared of this upcoming event.

    How so? Here’s another theory : Joy Boy, he was actually the king of the AK.


    Ok I know that sounds so random. There’s a theory for that but let’s save it for later…


    Like a said, destroying both reverse mountain and fishman island is a must to complet the project. Therefore, King Joy Boy made a proposal of destroying FI to the former mermaid princess, Poseidon. She agreed but as an exchange she asked Joy Boy to move her people to a better place on the surface. Joy Boy gave a nod and started building Noah Arc afterwards.

    Joy Boy managed to finish Noah but short after his kingdom lost a great battle against the 20 kingdoms. The promised cannot be fullfilled and he apoligized to Poseidon through poneglyph. However he still promised her “that day” would eventually come in the future, the day when fishmen and mermen live under the sun.

    (You see that Oda used the another “golden pattern” again here)


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    Conclusion : “The promised day” and madam shirley’s prediction, they are actually the same thing.

    The scenario is pretty simple : at “the promised day” Luffy will trigger the attack on the destruction spot, but before that, Shirahoshi will command the seaking to move all of the FI’s citizen to a safer place (by using Noah).

    Once destroyed, the same magic which happened to reverse mountain spot will also be happened here. The All Blue will appear, replacing the destruction spot. mermen and fishmen will move here later and make a brand new civilization around the Sunny Tree of Eve (if Sunny Tree has the same reputation with Adam tree, it will completely survive the destruction. There are ilustrations for this but I lost it somewhere ).


    Meanwhile, this also marked the end of WG’s reign because Mariejoa --the prime symbol of WG-- was buried alongside FI in the process. Luffy finally won his war against the WG.

    Spoiler: Mariejoa and FI
    X

    If you look from above, both mariejoa and fishman island are located on the same place. Destruction are inevitable for both.


    Spoiler: another ilustration
    X

    A = Sunny Tree of Eve
    B = the Red Line
    C = underwater part of Red Line
    D = Fishman Island
    E = underwater cave
    F = holy land Mariejoa

    I actually had more ilustrations explaining the destruction in process, but I lost’em somewhere. -_-

    well to make it simple, everthing in this pic will be completely destroyed, except the sunny tree.


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    X

    X
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    Welll that’s it folks… Sorry for bad english. The theory was hard enough to explain in Indonesian, so I didn’t expect to do it better in english.^^ But I really hope you guys understand what I’m trying to explain.

    I am awared that this theory has so many weaknesses but I believe it also makes perfect sense to some point so… let’s discuss!
     
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  3. SupernovaXDrake Member

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    Very good read, one of the best theories I've read. However it still doesn't explain how the Tenrubito started and what Enel was doing on the moon
     
  4. TrainerRed dont care

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    An excellent read! Thanks...I really appreciate this.
     
  5. MugiwaraInvincible Don't Bother

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    Good read. I always appreciate a well thought out theory be it correct or not in the end.
     
  6. claunch Member

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    Wow great read. And very interesting theory, you may be on to some stuff.
     
  7. Bitty

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  8. Juvia. Meow.

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    Great read, i was not so optimistic when you said there will be no more Grind line as i like the grand line but that was gone once i finished reading lol.
     
  9. Doma Active Member

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    Great theory! The only part that I didn't get was how would FI be destroyed? It's on the opposite side of the world from Reverse Mountain and it's even underwater. It's basically as far away as you can possibly get from the blast.


    The Tenryuubito are the ancestors of the original twenty kings of the twenty countries. So they're treated like royalty because I guess they technically are. I don't know about Enel and the moon though.
     
  10. Juvia. Meow.

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    He is blowing up both sides of the red/grand line, also the after effs on the blast would cause FI to be destroyed.
     
  11. TrainerRed dont care

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    So there will be two ALL BLUES?
     
  12. kukriBlades Member

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    you got that right. But the one on fishman island will be the truer all blue because you could find every kind of fishes AND merfolks.

    Sanji wasn't wrong at all when he said he found all blue.
     
  13. Lucasia Active Member

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    Good theory, has a great chance of being plausible.

    And yes, I like the fact that this can all happen cause Robin unveiled the true history. It makes her important.

    Would rep when I'm not 24'd.
     
  14. Blue Bomber Active Member

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    This is probably one of the best theories on the ending of One Piece I've seen. Good job, seems plausible.
     
  15. tupadre97 Active Member

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    Wow great theory +reps. Has to best One piece theory I have seen to date. The one thing I want to know however is why the 20K were so opposed to the project and why they had to completely eliminate the AK, all of their history, and an entire century of the worlds history.
    The Tenryubito are the direct descendants of the 20K and the moon is apparently where the ppl of the AK come from.
     
  16. Lionel Messi Hmmmmmmm

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  17. Jay. Love

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    Just adding this to the beautiful OP


    X


    The name of the chapter itself should be a hint on One Piece and everything connected to it.
     
  18. corsair ゴゴゴゴ

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  19. Tony Stark Awesome

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    I also want to add something which could be quite possible, and I've never seen someone predicting it.

    It's about Vegapunk and his inventions, I somehow believe that Vegapunk is in some way able to decipher the ancient language (Poneglyphs?).

    And "his" inventions are actually from the void century belonging to the ancient ones.
    I remember someone saying his succes brought them them 500 years forward or something.
    So what Vegapunk actually does is find these thing again, and not truly invent them. :quite
     
  20. tupadre97 Active Member

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    No they would have killed Vegapunk a long time ago if he could have read the poneglyphs.
     
  21. Urouge Mad Monk

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    10/10 thread OP really enjoyed reading it. best theory I've ever read here.
     
  22. Tony Stark Awesome

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    I didn't say read, but decipher and he is doing it in the name of the WG.
     
  23. Wado Lex

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    This is such a good theory, that it is almost scary.

    Even if you possibly spoiled a major part of One Piece's Story and I should be utterly mad at you for that, you deserve all the praise for this, thanks for sharing! :cry

    Now, I'd like to add something, as you wanted us to discuss it:

    Do you still remember tequilla wolf, the mysterious place robin was at?

    Spoiler:
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    After I read your theory and giving it some thought this came to my mind.

    As it seems, the World Government is building this huge bridge with slaves for over 700 Years to connect Islands?

    Am I the only one who, after reading your theory and assuming it to turn out to be true, just can't shake the thought that:

    1: The WG is trying to build it's own "One Piece" and is desperately trying through this bridge ( and remember, we don't know if there could possibly be more of those in other blues) to connect the world, but is unable to do what the Ancient Kingdom could have done.

    2: If they complete building it they will take the credit for it. This would explain why they fear that the knowledge of the void century seeks out to the public.

    That would make them some masterfully clever, and devillishly villains if you ask me:

    Erradicate an entire good natured kingdom, take their idea and do it your own, then take the credit for it and be praised to all eternity as the saviour of the people of the One Piece World.

    Damn....

    Anyway, just my two cents.
     
  24. Jay. Love

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    Hooooly Shit



    I love One Piece so fucking much.
     
  25. The Inevitable Llama Active Member

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    Good job OP, a very interesting read. This is almost too good, feels almost spoilerific :wha
     
  26. Urouge Mad Monk

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    that's awesome


    that's why OP is one of my favourite manga ever. Oda is a fucking genius
     
  27. Beckman Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely awesome theory. Almost scary how much sence it makes.
     
  28. Inferno .

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    Holy shit. Amazing theory.
     
  29. tupadre97 Active Member

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    Idk maybe but I doubt it.
    Yes that would be awesome :thumbs
    Truth :datass
     
  30. Stannis Based

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    STOP.BLOWING.MY.MIND.

    Best thread in OL history.

    This is what I like about one piece. Thank you for sharing


    X


    That's why Dragon is the best character in op X
     
  31. Jay. Love

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    Dragon is a divine being.


    Dragon is the last ancient weapon.


    Introduced in chapter 100 with the most essiential words to the manga.



    He is the prophet.
     
  32. MonkeyDNaruto Active Member

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    My goodness, this is the greatest theory of all time..this is the greatest thread of all time. Based on this I wonder how the Will of D. Fits in? Those who are descended from the Ancient Kingdom and inherited their will?
     
  33. Urouge Mad Monk

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    that seriously might be true. it's the best thread since I came here at least.

    well done OP

    X
     
  34. Kuma Scream, Benihime

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    First thing I wanted to ask after reading this is, are you Oda? And. if not, this is a masterful theory. It's so good, I want it to be real. It would be perfect.
     
  35. Speedy Jag. Don't Get My seat All Wet

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    Spoiler:
    Enel + the Maxim maybe the other ancient weapon which Enel may have found out in the Poneglyphs there.
     
  36. Hakan Erkan Well-Known Member

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    One of the best threads in OL history.

    Why isn't kukriBlades luminary yet? I repped him already. REP THIS DUDE. REP HIM RIGHT NOW
     
  37. Magician Member

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  39. kukriBlades Member

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    makes sense. this would be a good back up to my theory, thanks. :D

    anyway thanks for the positive responses, really appreciated that. This theory could still develop even more as the story moves on, just stay tune.
     
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  40. Speedy Jag. Don't Get My seat All Wet

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    Spoiler:
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  41. kukriBlades Member

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    that's the idea for now. well IMO Not necessarily their descendant though, as long as one support the project of One Piece, they may bear the will of D.
     
  42. Pain In The Ass >_>

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    Great read. Actually I've been here on NF since dunno, around 2008 and I haven't subscribed to a thread once, but gonna subscribe to this one so always keep track of it if I wanna reread or compare something.
     
  43. Vengeance The Kingslayer

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    Read through it quickly, seems to be a great theory and quite likely.
    I somehow expect the WG has a more terrible secret though, but well, maybe this is the real deal. Best theory I have seen so far, great job :p
     
  44. claunch Member

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    You talked about how all the weapons would fire and create the one ocean. But what would be the key that set it off? If there is a key either that's what's on Raftel.. or On Raftel is what you use to make the one ocean or, One Piece. I thought, what could be the key? And i think if your theory is correct, that the key would be The StrawHat. Think about it, Roger gave it to Shanks, He had supposedly the same personality and such as Roger, and Luffy might i add. Maybe since Roger was on the verge of death he gave it to Shanks, the one he too heard the same words Shanks heard when he gave the Hat to the prospective Luffy? Would be interesting to see if your theory pans out.
     
  45. DejaEntendu PoKeMoN League Champion

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    Nice post. ^^ I'm a little confused about the destruction of the second intersection, though. You're implying the whole thing just gets blown to bits? I mean, the premonition was that Luffy would destroy Fishman Island. Does Fishman Island even need to be destroyed? You can destroy the Red Line 10,000 meters above it, and have the same effect of all the oceans conjoining, no? Or is the attack just so destructive than it obliterates everything at that point regardless of depth?

    Good job again, on the theory. +rep
     
  46. claunch Member

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    I believe its like this, fish man island is underneath the red-line in a way, between the red-line and grand line. When that point is destroyed it's going to cause a lot of destruction, and im pretty sure that bubble on FI will pop.
     
  47. SHM Member

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    Hey OP, replace "[theory]" in the title of this thread with "[big fucking spoilers!]".

    By the way, you are Oda aren't you?

    rep+
     
  48. Vagabond Sword Saint

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    Best theory i've read since coming here. Well thought out and all the parts come together. I have only one question, how does Dragon fit into all this?
     
  49. Kaido Emperor

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    Best theory ever.
     
  50. Waly D Rabz Will Of D.

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    Omg this sounds so true,,,,

    I think you just spoiled One Piece!!

    It honestly all connects, although i don't like the idea of two all blues, makes sanji's dream sound less interesting

    This also explains how Salo arrived on the island of Ohara "through fate" to save robin, The Will of D put him there because if robin died then one piece could not have been accomplished.....
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2013

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