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Discussion in 'The Konoha Times' started by ane, Dec 26, 2016.

  1. ane Super Moderator

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    ~ THE SIZE OF SIGNATURES MEMBERS CAN WEAR HAS CHANGED ~


    The signature size limitations have been changed to 700x300px and 3MB for all members. Like before, this is for the entire signature, including any images, text, closed spoiler tags, etc. Stuff within spoiler tags counts toward the 3MB limit.

    Spoiler: Example 1
    X

    Spoiler: Example 2
    X

    Sigs adhering to the old height limit (550x500px) will have to be resized as they won't be allowed in the future. There is no rush to do it today or tomorrow (they have been allowed for years after all), but please, try resize as soon as you can.

    :santahurr

    Thank you ~
     
  2. Sayaka The subliminal mind Trump America.

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    Merry Christmas indeed.
     
  3. Rey Play Nice, Play Pharah

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    >Only 300 height

    :privatepuppers
     
  4. Puppetry Ōkashō

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    Why? Was there a thread where NF users gave their opinion on this?
     
  5. Trinity Non ducor, duco Super Moderator

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  6. Aphrodite Moderator

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    300 height is actually a good size for a signature anything taller is almost a wallpaper not a signature.
     
  7. NoticemeEscanorsenpai Enter Sandman

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    You need to decide once and for all about the signature size. Also it should be mentioned somewhere in the signature options in the user control panel what the current max size is.A lot of users just dismiss notices. That will make it easier for the users, and for the mods too.They won't have to PM people asking them to change their sig.
     
  8. Rey Play Nice, Play Pharah

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    Well it was okay for ten years.

    And if your desktop/laptop resolution is so poor that a 350 height is all you need for a wallpaper, something is very wrong with your computer.
     
  9. Swarmy Arthropodic Superiority

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    Is my current one ok cause idk how to check with the text :hm
     
  10. Disquiet Devil's Advocate

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    Oh man, sigs can't be as tall now, that's great. I can save an entire two seconds of scrolling time per page. We needed this.
     
  11. Aphrodite Moderator

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    I was being sarcastic. Signatures dont need to be so tall.
     
  12. Rey Play Nice, Play Pharah

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    tfw I can't just render this and use it as a sig anymore

    THANKS, OBAMA.
     
  13. Rey Play Nice, Play Pharah

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    It means a lot to those whole 2% of people that don't have sigs turned off.
     
  14. ChronaSE Monochrome World

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    Why not maximum height at least 400px? :sniff
    Or have a width limit for tall signatures so they don't turn into a wallpapers.
     
  15. scerpers Heart of the World, Lord of the Void

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    sigs definitely didn't need to be so tall. they don't need to be so wide either
     
  16. Disquiet Devil's Advocate

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    Avatars don't need to be 350px tall either, yet here we are. :catball
     
  17. Aphrodite Moderator

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    Avatars are fine. Though i do agree with you. Im gonna talk to the staff about making all avies 150x150 again. Thanks for the advice.
     
  18. scerpers Heart of the World, Lord of the Void

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    150x200 is fine, thanks. stop ruining good things
     
  19. Rey Play Nice, Play Pharah

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    So was 125x125
     
  20. Rey Play Nice, Play Pharah

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    fuckin why

    I could just use this as an avatar instead at this point.
     
  21. Aphrodite Moderator

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    It's cute though Rey. :hurr
     
  22. santanico eyepatch kun ❤

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    no more jumbo sigs? awesome
     
  23. Sayaka The subliminal mind Trump America.

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    I wear that size all the time! its cute~
     
  24. Rey Play Nice, Play Pharah

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    No it's not. :sadpanda It's literally smaller than your current avatar.

    X

    Is this really THAT bad? (obvious shit quality since I just blew up the small one, forgot to save the project lol)
     
  25. Sayaka The subliminal mind Trump America.

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    Honestly? The render needs some work...I see some white sticking.
     
  26. Rey Play Nice, Play Pharah

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    I know that, it wasn't done for actual use purposes I just used the wand real quick and it was just blown up from the smaller one as i just said in the other post.

    I'm talking strictly size here.
     
  27. Sayaka The subliminal mind Trump America.

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    The tall sizes annoys me. Like seriously sometimes it makes my computer slow cause it takes forever for the pic to load. Also 700 gives a HQ feel to horizontal sizes. compare to my old sig this one has better quality.
     
  28. Rey Play Nice, Play Pharah

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    I highly doubt 700x300 would load that much differently than 300x700. Literally same size just flipped.
     
  29. Marco Who wants to be King? Moderator

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    This is the first time sig size has been changed ever since I joined this forum over 7 years ago.

    It would, actually, depending on your computer. Of course, the file size is going to be the same, but browsers eat resources. With heavy sized pages and less processing power (old computers, phones, etc), scrolling can be a very unpleasant experience because of "lag".
     
  30. Nello Mellow

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    No one is ever going to check how much space the text occupies so you're safe :noworries
    Why not 175x175 to use all the width?
     
  31. Rey Play Nice, Play Pharah

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    If you count the Gold Member status upgrade it's the second, technically.


    Then niggas should stop browsing anime forums on computers from the 80s. But really, how would something that is literally the same size use more resources? Seriously, I ain't a computer nerd so I don't know. Niggas should just turn off sigs at that point. Like, really, it's been okay for over a decade.
     
  32. ChronaSE Monochrome World

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    Maybe forbid animated signatures and avatars if lag is the excuse here.
    Seriously though, there's no way tall sigs won't load unless you still have windows xp or something.
     
  33. Sayaka The subliminal mind Trump America.

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    Well another thing is tall sigs are just so annoying to many people (hence why most people turn the option off). Though maybe upping it to 700x400 is a better option?
     
  34. Rey Play Nice, Play Pharah

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    Or do it like how current SotW rules are and have it be anything that adds up to 1000 (if those are still the rules, unless it changed and nobody told me) though even not that much. I don't need no 700 height, but shit, gimme something to work with, niggas.
     
  35. Nighty the Mighty I swim in outer space Super Moderator

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    I actually forced this through using my tazmo connections because I dislike wallpaper sigs

    you're welcome :handshake
     
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  36. Marco Who wants to be King? Moderator

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    Think of it as going from 4:3 to 16:9 screens.

    You know, I remember thinking there was an upgrade, but couldn't find what the previous one was?

    What was it before the Gold upgrade?

    1. A lot of times you'll see decent hardware perform badly because of the way it's being used. A phone, for instance, is almost always on (phones are optimized for that, but still). And then there's the people who constantly have backgrounds apps running. Laptop users who don't shut down their systems for months and years on end. You know how when you quit a resource hungry game/program and then the computer takes a while to get back into shape? Imagine that, but weaker and on a longer/steadier scale. That shit piles up.

    2. It wouldn't in the same context. When you're scrolling most websites, you're doing it up down. So vertical dimensions matter more. If you were scrolling left to right, horizontally big images would be a bigger strain compared to vertical.
     
  37. Marco Who wants to be King? Moderator

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    That's not to say that the load is the reason that this size change happened. I am just explaining the problem Sayaka faces.
     
  38. Rey Play Nice, Play Pharah

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  39. Rey Play Nice, Play Pharah

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    That doesn't help me.



    Non-Gold members capped at 1MB filesize. Gold members got 2MB filesize.



    1. Then don't browse NF while doing shit

    2. But wouldn't it still have to register everything horizontally (scrolling vertically) so it would feasibly still take just as long as a vertical image that doesn't have as many horizontal pixels to load?
     
  40. Aphrodite Moderator

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    @Marco Stop being so freaking cute.

    @Rey all you got to do is center your little render maybe add a border or not. Then make some little heart links under it where your linking to the profiles of your favorite people on nf and you will be good to go. It will still be small but you can work with it. Trust me. :hehee Glad i can help you out.
     
  41. Rey Play Nice, Play Pharah

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  42. Trinity Non ducor, duco Super Moderator

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    Now now, Krory, settle down or I'll have to get the broom

    How often do you use tall signatures like those ones?
     
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    >signatures
    >2017

    c'mon
     
  44. Aphrodite Moderator

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    Fine see if I try to help again. :pek
     
  45. Rey Play Nice, Play Pharah

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    Good.

    Don't.
     
  46. Marco Who wants to be King? Moderator

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    Well, that's life. What help do you need, anyway?

    Ah, so the dimensions remained the same?

    Did you read what I wrote? Ain't about NF what I'm saying. You've got the impression here that I'm explaining why this sig size change happened. I'm not. I'm explaining the issue Sayaka has had to deal with.

    Not sure what you're saying here.

    But to expand on my point earlier, think about it this way:

    You have 20 images on a page. Each is 500 pixels high and 1000 pixels wide. Intuitively, you know already that scrolling through these up-down is going to take less time than left-right, because that'd be half the number of pixels you have to scroll.

    So if you're being throttled by your CPU while your download speeds are more than adequate, for instance, you will probably experience lag/stuttering while you scroll.

    If you want to test this, create an image that is 50,000 pxl long and only 3,000 pxl wide. Save it, and open it on your browser. Now, the image is already fully loaded on the page. But you'll probably notice slight lag and stuttering while you scroll through those 50K pixels to get to the bottom.
     
  47. Rey Play Nice, Play Pharah

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    Financial and emotional support wouldn't be too bad.


    Yeah. 550x500 for seniors and I forget about non-seniors. 450x400 or something? I forget.


    But the current issue is about NF signatures. I'm pretty sure we aren't deciding sig sizes for the entirety of the internet. I'm not sure even Tazmo has that kind of power.


    But we were talking about computer performance so actual scrolling effort of a fraction of a second doesn't equate to that. And again, would not a CPU still have to download the same amount of pixels whether they are horizontal or vertical providing they are the same exact filesize? And the 50,000pxl wide and 3,000 long wouldn't have the same effect?
     
  48. Rey Play Nice, Play Pharah

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    I probably wouldn't even wear a sig like that anyway.

    Literally everyone but me has sigs turned off so no one would appreciate it. :catippy
     
  49. Marco Who wants to be King? Moderator

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    I can give you emotional support.

    So if dimensions remained same during that upgrade, this is indeed the first time sig dimension limits have been changed in over 7 years.

    See, you asked Sayaka why 700x300 would be a different experience for him than 300x700. I'm just explaining that. That doesn't have to do with NF. That has to do with any website he comes across. Or others who're having similar problems.

    Like I said before, if you want to discuss actual NF sig size change, that's not what I brought this whole thing up for. This was never once considered when deciding on size change and has nothing to do with the size change.

    Please try the experiment I asked you to. If you can't recreate it, try with 100x dimensions because your computer is in top shape (very niiice!).

    If you still can't recreate it, just accept that some of us just don't have the resources, financial or mental, to get the buttery smooth PC master race performance you're enjoying.
     
  50. Marco Who wants to be King? Moderator

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    Again, you're thinking I'm making some giant point about why sig sizes have been changed.

    The idea behind asking you to try that experiment is to see if you can recreate the kind of problems Sayako faces. Not that you'll actually have to load such an image ever.
     

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