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Senju=Uchiha/Uzumaki=Hyuuga

Discussion in 'Konoha Library Archives 2' started by megamab25, Jul 1, 2010.

  1. megamab25 Member

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    Senju, Uchiha and Uzumaki all are confirmed to be distant relatives having a common ancestor, the Sage of Six Paths.

    I wonder where the Hyuuga fit in?
    I am guessing they are the equilvlant of the Uzumaki like the Senju and Uchiha were during the warring era
     
  2. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    What's wrong with you people. :facepalm Trying to link the Hyuuga to the Sage of the Six Paths constantly. :facepalm
     
  3. WraithX959 I hate stupid people

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    Hmmm... because the manga indicates that the Uchiha and Hyuuga have blood ties.
     
  4. Orochibuto Well-Known Member

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    The manga or Kakashi? The same man who has shown to fail at history constantly, I mean he believed RS was a myth :facepalm and believed that the Rinnegan was just a mutation :notrust
     
  5. Amatérasu’s Son Redbeard

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    Yeah it all adds up.

    It makes me wonder if there are six families descended from Rikudo Sennin.

    There's no evidence that says the Hyuga aren't related to the others. Madara happily deleted anything that didn't help him manipulate Sasuke from his story. He didn't mention an Uzumaki either. Nor did he mention having to take Sasuke's former best friend hostage as a newborn to get his Kyubi back....oh wait he denied involvement.

    Everybody thinks that the Rikudo Sennin was a myth there's no proof with the exception of the stone tablet that you need a dojutsu to read that the Uchiha keep nice and locked up beneath their lands.

    And when did he refer to the Rinnegan as a myth?
     
  6. Bart a lion still has claws

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    The Hyuga are the oldest Clan in Konoha, being older than the likes of the Senju and the Uchiha, so it does make alot of sense. And the whole thing with Hinata's symbol appearing at Nakano Shrine on Rikudou's tablet should definitely not do unnoticed.

    Kishimoto was definitely speaking through Kakashi when he made that comment in Part I, as clearly if it wasn't true why include it?
     
  7. Missing_Nin missing ninja

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  8. Bart a lion still has claws

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    Unfunny :hurr
     
  9. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    The fact that at first Kakashi dismissed anything Rinnegan related tells you a lot.
     
  10. Bart a lion still has claws

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    Oh yeah he dismissed someone who created the kingdom of Ninjutsu, battled arguably the most dangerous being of all time and created the Moon :hurr

    That's far more understandable.
     
  11. Yondaime FLEE ON SIGHT Advisor

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    Oh look, more Hyuuga speculation. That's fine, on to more Uchiha and Uzumaki stuff Kishi.:distracted
     
  12. Kitsukaru ̣<b> <font color="#FF1F00">Kage Bunshin?!</font></

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    I can agree with everything other than the "Hyuuga symbol". It is not the Hyuuga symbol, as far as we're aware. Other than part 1 Hinata, the Hyuuga did not wear it, and Hinata does not in part 2.

    So saying that it is the symbol of the Hyuuga is pretty bottomless. It is quite clearly a flame. A flame which quite clearly indicates ties to the fire country.
    Spoiler:


    And yes, obviously the Hyuuga are connected to the fire country, considering they, like the Uchiha and Senju, are clans of the Fire country.
     
  13. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    Indeed. So then he obviously linked the Sharingan's roots to the eyes that wasn't a myth, the Byakugan. He was proved wrong when we learnt about the Sharingan's true origins.
     
  14. RikodouGai

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  15. Mist Puppet No Internet, No Problems Advisor

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    You mean the Hyuuga have relevance to the plot?
     
  16. Lelouch71 Zero

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    I think it's quite obvious that the Hyuuga are related to the elder brother. Kind of ironic that the elder child is the one who joins the main branch while the youngest would be apart of the lesser branch.
     
  17. Bart a lion still has claws

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    Kakashi didn't suggest there wasn't a Rinnegan, only that he thought Rikudou was a myth.

    Kakashi: "The Rikudou Sage? He's nothing but a myth. The Rinnegan is just a mutation."

    It doesn't really suggest otherwise, doesn't it?
     
  18. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    He was forced to believe the Rinnegan was real at that point- it killed him.
    But still dismissed the Sage as a myth.

    In Part 1, when he made the Byakugan remark: he didn't meet a Rinnegan. So tell me would he have believed it existed back then?
     
  19. Arsecynic away fighting dragons

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    Ohh don't be stupid people. Their doujutsu must have come from somewhere (COUGH ELDER BROTHER). Most likely that some Uchia branched off from the clan, bred into some other family and the Hyuga's were cerated from that. Simples.

     
  20. Bart a lion still has claws

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    Nothing is suggested he was forced to believe it, or else the term "myth" would have been the last sentence.

    He knew about the Rinnegan, as suggested here, knowing it was a "mutation".
     
  21. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    He was killed by one. Hence he came up with an explanation.

    Notice that comment came from him after a Rinnegan user attacked Konoha.
     
  22. CHEH Funky Karate!!

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    whatever you guys argue over, you will see eventually down the line sometime what is the deal with them.
     
  23. Shadow050 me wo samaseru...

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    anyone believe those things were myths... look how powerful they were, and note how rare it is....

    hyuuga are related with these clans.

    look at the appearance of shodai (looks similar to a hyuuga), look at the eddy village nin (they look similar to hyuugas too).... note the HAKKE seal...
    there hints of hyuugas all over the place.

    they just get no direct involvment in the story, however.

    doesn't mean they're not related at all though.
     
  24. Thunder Disciple of Atlantic Storm

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    My thoughts exactly

    http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=594158
     
  25. Linkdarkside Ninja of the West

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    oldest in the land of Fire not as a clan, there no evidence the clans(uchiha and senju) lived in the land of fire for thousand of years.
     
  26. UltimateDeadpool Steam Danger Tyrant

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    That doesn't mean that the Hyuugas aren't related to the Uchiha.
     
  27. Afalstein Mountain Hermit

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    It makes sense. Kakashi said the Sharingan came from the Byakugan, and the relation between the Rinnegan and the Sharingan is well established. So it'd make sense for the Hyuuga to be in there.

    Oh, and yes, Kakashi thought Rikudo was just a legend, but to be fair, so did several of the Kages. This is a prime case of "just a legend" trope, when a character dismissing a legend automatically means it's true.
     
  28. Orochibuto Well-Known Member

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    Yes he stated it, he stated that the Rinnegan as a mutation as the same time that he declared RS a myth :lmao

    Not only the sage, he also named the Rinnegan a mutation :lmao
     
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  29. Mikaveli Head is the answer

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  30. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    It means just that.

    Especially since in part 2...it wasn't touched on.
     

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