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Official Manga Complaints Thread

Discussion in 'Konoha Library' started by Hiroshi, Mar 5, 2011.

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  1. Hiroshi Active Member Advisor

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    Unhappy that your favourite character was killed? Displeased by who is winning (or participating in) the current battle? Can't get over a decision Kishimoto made? Planning on quitting the manga? Come here to discuss general complaints about the plot, direction, or writing of the manga. All general complaint threads found in Library outside this thread will be merged. Any specific discussion worthy grievances about the manga that have not been sufficiently addressed can still be placed in the Library main, and will remain there at the discretion of the section moderators.

    No flaming, please.

     
  2. Trent Joker, Smoker, Midnight Toker

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    There's not enough T & A.

    Without going up to Fairy Tail level :)druul), a little fan service wouldn't damage the manga. :quite

    Edit: I was about to add
    Spoiler:
    "woohoo, first" :awesome"
    then I remembered I actually hate seeing people post that. So I won't. :LOS
     
  3. bearzerger Major Cliff Allister McLane

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    The design of Naruto's Rikudou mode sucks. It's too white, there's just no shading, no contrast it looks like a human shaped void. It needs a more finished look.
     
  4. nebojsaxfarseer ronin of freehold

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    i dont like the jumping from fight to fight, forget what was going on. Also dont like the kumo hype, or kick them out or more from every village
     
  5. Trent Joker, Smoker, Midnight Toker

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    I especially dislike the whirlpool with the weird ugly tomoe-like tail thing on his belly.

    It's good that there are markings on Naruto's body in RM but the ones Kishi came up with do not look cool at all.
     
  6. Adagio Be at ease

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    I agree with the new look of the new mode, I also think that it completely voids the need for a new outfit for Naruto, which I'm sure many people were looking forward to. It just seems like lazyness on Kishimoto's part because it makes it easier to draw him.
     
  7. bullsh3t Active Member

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    I hate how deidara and sasori got trolled.
     
  8. bearzerger Major Cliff Allister McLane

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    true, sadly without those whirlpools and those strange black markings it would look even worse. My only hope is that Kishi will combine RM and SM and give him a new design instead of that crappy one.
     
  9. Dream Administrator

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    I dislike how small of a part the other ninja villages played in Part 2 until now. Before the TS I thought that the other villages would come into conflict with a weakened Konoha but that never happened. Instead the story shifted from being about a boy who wanted to be the leader of a ninja village to a story about a boy wanting to "rescue" his friend and fight off people who want to capture him because of a demon he contains.

    And that change, I feel, was a big mistake.
     
  10. Godaime Tsunade Well-Known Member

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    Stick with one fight at a time. Showing so many at once, and leaving many of them off panel is really annoying. It would be much better if we saw Kakashi, Sakura, Lee and Gai vs The Seven Swordsmen, Ino-Shika-Cho vs Asuma, Choza vs Dan, Mifune vs Hanzo etc. as seperate matches taking up a number of chapters. Instead of seeing random cut scenes of the fight =/
     
  11. CrazyAries Truth Hurts

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    I do not like that shift, either. For one thing, Naruto lost his narrative in more ways than one. He put his goal to become Hokage on the sidelines because he could not save his friend. We did not see him on very many productive missions on which he could travel to other villages. Naruto was not getting stronger primarily to prepare for the role of leading Konohagakure, but to have a rematch with Sasuke. This leads me to the issue of the power-scaling of this manga.

    As Naruto is preparing to have that long-awaited showdown with Sasuke, the two have gotten exponentially stronger. This narrowed down the number of characters that could conceivably hold their own against them and made other characters look largely irrelevant. Kishimoto has to find excuses to keep Naruto out of the action and make a grand entrance in the end. Also, to what end are these two becoming so powerful? Sure, both may very well face Madara, but what happens after the smoke clears? There will be two powerful being left in the story with village-busting jutsus but no conceivable reason to use them. Naruto will most likely avoid killing anyone, as well.

    Also, as I said in the other complaints thread, the title of kage looks irrelevant, as well, due to Naruto's role as the destined child. World peace is so much grander than the role of village leader. Kishimoto drastically changed the scope in Part 2.
     
  12. PuppetDoctor Member

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    The manga is just not interesting to read right now and has become almost a chore. The whole war so far has been a huge disappointment. Seriously, I feel like I am watching an American cartoon (nothing against American cartoons). Its like this:

    For the next two weeks we have have a character you have never seen before battle this person you have never seen before.

    *Two weeks later* We will have this character come back who was from the beginning of Naruto fight this character until they are defeated.

    *Rinse and Repeat*

    Its getting very tiresome and it feels like Kishimoto wants to draw out this manga longer than it needs to be. We all know the grand scheme of things and that Sasuke will eventually battle Naruto.

    Another, disappointment is that there is no deaths. Have a major character die off to make the suspense go up. Isn't that what a war is about? But even if a major character does die off I doubt I will believe they will stay dead after what happened at the end of the Pain arc.

    I just wish that these random battles would stop happening and its disappointing that once formidable opponents are now getting beaten up within two chapters.

    When I think back to when I most enjoyed Naruto it was during the Chunnin Exams and the battle between the 3rd Hokage and Orochimaru. What happened Kishimoto?
     
  13. Judecious Active Member

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    Manga needs Naruto and Sasuke back:pek
     
  14. C-Moon ...

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    I hate Rikudou and every connection made to him.
     
  15. Judecious Active Member

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    He's not that bad but the freaking Juubi killed the story:-(
     
  16. Addy itachi is everywhere!!

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    Addy's thread. part 2 :tomasulk

    for some it took for him just being mentioned to ruin the story and for others is juubi.

    im from the former.
     
  17. Patrick Order Intensifies

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    i dislike that sasuke's EMS and naruto's rikudo mode both seem as small power ups.
    RM should be stronger than KN8 but i feel like it is as stong as KN1.
    EMS just restores sasuke's eyesight and an extra jutsu.

    also the war arc should stop shifting. it seems so rushed. a better way to do this would be CE style. make the fights only 2-3 chapters, but atleast don't skip in the middle of the fight.
     
  18. SaVaGe609 Only Sai Fan

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    Sai vs Deidara would've been a badass fight. I've been anticipating it forever. They're fighting styles are parallels in quite a few ways. But instead, Kishi rushed through it and Sai showed us, as always, nothing new. Other than the drawing of the Benevolent Twins, which was cool, but the way they were used? Angry Sai has the ability to magically leap behind two high class ninja? Kishi should've put more effort into it.

    The most I can hope for is that we see the "sealing jutsus" Kakashi asked him to use, when we finally get back to that story.
     
  19. Aleeight Long-Winded Writer

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    What really killed me was when it was mentioned that the Rikudou made the moon in order to seal the Juubi in.
     
  20. jux back to back

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    I dislike the power scaling that is know is used in Naruto. It's now more about haxx power ups then it is about stealth, tactic and deception that made the fights so charming back in Part 1. The impossible tip of Sasuke and Naruto's power skill just makes them all too exclusive to each other and Madara. There is no risk, and thus the climax of their fights are dampened.

    The way Kishi has handled Part 2 has been disappointing overall. I don't mind the direction Part 1 took, to Sasuke leaving Konoha, but the way Kishimoto has handled the manga since then has been offputting. He should have written it in a way that had Sasuke action's challenge and change Naruto's idealistic world view and philosophy on the responsibility Hokage's took in the management of missing-nin/criminals that have become so due to being marginalized in a community fuelled by the villages (and thus the leader's) lack of care, rather then make Sasuke utterly impede on Naruto's path in becoming Hokage.
     
  21. Raging Bird 15 Strong, XVI

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    I hate how everyone in the manga is so dense, it reminds me sometimes of Natsuru from Kampfer a show you shouldn't watch.
     
  22. Skywalker Imperial Conqueror

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    Kakashi isn't dense.
     
  23. ovanz ______

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    I dislike the wasted potencial of some characters in part II, the autor should've made better work with them, they were so much letdowns characters, example:

    1- Danzo as Hokage: a Hokage that was ruthless and power hungry. A hokage who wanted sasuke death, who will put naruto in custody, and so many other things, all this elements could've create a civil war inside Konoha, maybe even naruto and co go rogue ninjas, and fighting to re-gain the village from the hands of Danzo, that will put naruto in a higher place for a hokage candidate. What we got: Danzo's reign was so short and he was killed several times thanks to Izanagi.

    2- Pain: he was in the beginning the mysterious Akatsuki leader, showing incredible jutsus and all, telling the akatsuki some sort of plan to control the world, even were theories that he was naruto's father or related to him at last (ok he is an uzumaki, that's just a clan or family name) He was incredible powerfull enough to make konoha a crater What we got: the leader we all saw, was just a puppet, the real one was a mayor letdown, crippled, anorexic and beated by a book, and worst, he revive all the people who he killed, people who he hate for years (konoha killed his parents), just by the words of some random kid he just meet. Oh and he himself was Madara's puppet.

    3- Orochimaru's deffeat/seal: He was the first mayor villain, he did a great damage to konoha, characters were afraid of him (kakashi, the guy from interrogation, to name a few) we waited for the fight between him and sasuke will be epic, What we got: a great villain, trolled so many times by sharingan.

    So i don't hate this characters, they were probably my favs characters, so i dislike how they potencial was wasted.
     
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    I'm almost done with Naruto

    That had to be one of the worst chapters of the entire manga, the only thing that was even close to being interesting was seeing how Pein ended Hanzou but FFS, all these villains, all of them are getting trolled, why aren't any of the good guys dieing? What the fuck kind of war is this?

    What's next? Sai reveals his expert hidden abilities and kills Madara?

    It's now getting to the point of which where i'm almost begging one of my favorite characters like Kakashi to get slashed up into little pieces. At least ONE good guy has to die PLEASE, i don't care who it is, get one of team 8's guys to die, hell get all of them to die, just someone DIE please.
     
  25. vjpowell Becoming Stronger

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    I liked it. This is a Shounen where the good guys usually wins. No one is making you watch the series.
     
  26. Nfpsouljah Member

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    Lol I don't really care about rep, unless it's positive of course:laugh

    Is it a too much to ask for just a little bit more drama? Everything is so predictable, with every new chapter, another bad guy gets trolled. The Zetsu's are all looking like fodder, Hanzou was fodder, The 2 brothers were fodder, the 7 swordsman are looking like fodder, Chiyo and Kimmimaro are dead certs to be fodder, Gaara's dad will no doubt be fodder, Asuma will completely dominate his old team but for some reason will get things turned on him and will no doubt be fodder etc
     
  27. Megaharrison Eternal President of the Cafe Advisor

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    This desperation for death is pretty pathetic. If you want everybody to die read a different genre. In the OP war only 2 died and at the very end and in the Bleach war nobody died.
     
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    Well, OP does have a point.

    Kishi seems to be twisting all scenarios too much to have the good guys win.

    Just look how Mifune is pawning Hanzou, and Jiraiya respected him almost like he was invincible.
     
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    I think there will be casualties later on the war, the war right now seems like it's just heating up we haven't really seen the big guns come out, but I agree about Hanzou getting trolled, he was hyped up to be a beast yet he gets owned in 1 chapter by a dude that I thought was fodder.
     
  30. Nfpsouljah Member

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    That's the other thing, all this tier power-scaling from everything we've read has been totally farked, some of the most revered guys we've read about, getting absolutely trolled by almost anyone? I mean I can understand how Darui was able to at least hold his own against the brothers but Mifune being able to effortlessly destroy Hanzou? Fucking Mifune? The guy that dropped his balls when he saw Sasuke in the flesh?

    Yes we know Jiraiya, Oro and Tsunade were young, this and that, and that it was a long time ago, but fucking Mifune? You've got to be kidding that shit is just wrooooooong! It looked like it was going to be one amazing war but it's been a complete disappointment so far at how uncompetitive the bad guys have been.

    As a Shounen i do not expect the bad guys to win, and I also do not expect most of the good guys to die, but what I do expect is something competitive, not a fucking walk-about! So far only 2 good guys of any half-decent sort of meaning have died and thousands of fodder.
     
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