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Minato's Kyubi Chakra Mode clarification

Discussion in 'Konoha Library' started by Coldhands, May 22, 2013.

  1. Coldhands A Thousand Eyes, and One

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    A few points since there seems to be confusion about Minato's KCM.

    Bijuu Mode or Kyubi Chakra Mode?
    It's Kyubi Chakra Mode, the same thing that Naruto had before Bijuu Mode. You can compare the seal markings, they're identical to KCM. When Naruto goes BM the markings drastically change.

    Why did he get it so easily?
    It's not because he's just Kishi's golden boy and perfect, he got it because he only has Kurama's Yin chakra, he doesn't have Kurama's will. So he didn't have to fight Kurama like Naruto did, he could just access the chakra like Naruto could after he stole it from Kurama.

    How powerful is he?
    There's no doubt that this boost his abilities drastically, but this is NOT Bijuu Mode, it's just the initial Kyubi Chakra Mode. We've seen the difference in BM and KCM. He shouldn't be able to use any partial transformations or Bijudama. Basically KCM just boosts his base stats, makes his Rasengan more powerful etc.
     
  2. slickcat Emperor Of the Dark Dragons

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    Basically Minato is in the highest tier now, because since he devised Rasengan would be surprised if hes capable of bijuudama on the spot.

    As to whether the yin chakra has no mind of its own, why didnt minato just take the evil kyuubi and give his son the chakra itself. All in all its an asspull and too convenient right now
     
  3. Arles Celes The Psychologist

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    BM shouldn't be possible unless he made friends with a bijuu.

    Does Minato have a living bijuu inside of him that he beat and befriended like Naruto did?
     
  4. Shaz &#32

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    He still stomps everything with that in combination with his Hiraishin
     
  5. Coldhands A Thousand Eyes, and One

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    Yeah, it's not possible - Minato only has Yin chakra of Kurama, he can only access the Chakra Mode.
     
  6. blackfishie Trying to sit on a fence.

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    Cause without kurama's actual mind you cant use BM, since that needs the Jin and Kurama to work together.

    Like Naruto's KCM, Minato's is limited in time, as he has a set amount of chakra that isnt replenishing, whilst Naruto's BM is not only stronger but he can use it more often as Kurama can keep making more chakra.
     
  7. Jizznificent Your unborn bro

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    i'm glad you made a thread about this, since i was getting a little irritated of having to clear this up in each thread. i was just thinking of making this thread myself but you beat me to it. :p
     
  8. Klue Youth Losing

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    What makes you think Kurama's Yin chakra does not have a portion of its will attached to it?
     
  9. Grimm

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    Pretty much.
     
  10. The Saiyan Prince Vegeta Well-Known Member

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    I'm still wondering why he had the markings on his hands/palms and the tomoes on his jacket. I don't believe KCM Naruto had those.
     
  11. B.o.t.i Active Member

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    The question is why did he go V2.His seal is identical to naruto and we know kb's can draw chakra from kyuubi.So maybe thats why he can go into rikudou mode v2.
     
  12. Jizznificent Your unborn bro

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    point taken. but i wouldn't be surprised if what he said there was true. it would explain a lot.
     
  13. Coldhands A Thousand Eyes, and One

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    It's just chakra, Kinkaku and Ginkaku didn't have Kurama's will either. Kurama's will remained in Naruto.
     
  14. Ƶero BAMFlash

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    Give the fastest character in the series Bijuu level power and extra speed. Good idea kishi :hurr
     
  15. PopoTime Devourer of Souls

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    Because Kinkaku and Ginkaku were able to use Kn cloaks with ease after consuming nd absorbing part of Kuruma's chakra.

    If his will was so closely tied to his chakra, Kin and Gin should have been taken over on the spot, due to no seal holding Kurama back.
     
  16. Shaz &#32

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    Madara, you may as well flee on sight
     
  17. Ƶero BAMFlash

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    He's currently too hurt because he got rejected by his man crush :hurr
     
  18. Narutossss Active Member

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    because minato is not an uzumaki and didn't have the body to hold the kurama's will or have you fogotten that the kyuubi's been sealed inside an uzumaki since the founding of konoha.
     
  19. Coldhands A Thousand Eyes, and One

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    It's not "V2" or BM, it's just the initial Kyubi Chakra Mode. Compare the markings, they're completely different when Naruto goes BM (V2). This is clearly KCM V1, the seal markings are identical.
     
  20. ueharakk Active Member

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    visually, Minato's form looks like a cross between BM and KCM as his hands have the same BM seal markings as Naruto and he doesn't instantly enter the form like KCM Naruto does. On the other hand, there are similarities in the seal design to KCM and his eyes aren't slitted like Naruto's are in BM.

    Either way though, Minato is retardedly powerful now. Like someone else said, he'd probably be able to use bijuudamas instead of rasengan while in that mode.
     
  21. Fuujin ̣

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    I anticipate it means he mastered KCM to a higher degree than Naruto.

    By channeling this mastery through his hands, I think he can probably do a bijuu bomb rasengan like Naruto nearly managed to do before Kinkaku's chakra disturbed him.

    Full bijuu transformation wouldn't make sense though so for now, his new powers are:

    *Increased speed (holy shit)
    *Increased durability
    *Increased strength
    *Limb extensions
    *Multiple limbs
    *Sensing negative emotions
    *Bijuudama rasengan
    *Resurrecting self from edo tensei
     
  22. Gibbs <font color="#00FF80">Dad, 6/15/50-10/21/15</font>

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    lol. yes Naruto did...
     
  23. tanman Hardship of Adventure

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    I don't really mind the powerup since its purpose is probably to hype Jubidara.
     
  24. Arles Celes The Psychologist

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    It took Naruto many years to convince Kurama to place his trust in him.

    Minato left a pissed of Kurama moments before he died.

    While he was brought back how much time did he have to become friends with Yin Kurama(assuming that he has part of Kurama's consciousness inside of him).
     
  25. Dark Red Z PROBLEM?

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    Because he wasn't wanked enough as he already was, now we have to deal with the hopefully MUGENTSUKUYOMI-influenced reality of 9M MINATO.
     
  26. The Saiyan Prince Vegeta Well-Known Member

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    No he didn't.

    Look at the markings on Minato's hand here (http://i998.[Blocked Domain]/naruto/631/naruto-4167281.jpg).

    KCM Naruto doesn't have them. Nor does he have the tomoes on a the top of a cloak like Minato has. BM Naruto had both of them.

    It looks like a state between KCM and BM.
     
  27. Coldhands A Thousand Eyes, and One

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    Naruto has those hand markings in KCM, just like Minato:
    http://[Blocked Domain]/manga/Naruto/628/11
     
  28. The Saiyan Prince Vegeta Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm, you're right. I never really noticed that panel.
     
  29. Fuujin ̣

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    He only got them once he mastered BM though.
     
  30. Addy itachi is everywhere!!

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    i don't care about the terminology at this point. it is all the same to me.
     

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