Discussion in 'Magnolia Stadium' started by Atlantic Storm, Mar 1, 2013.
Guys, wait a moment.
Late to the party. But congrats Azereuth.
Don't know if we have time to add anything else to the que. And its probably too soon since the last time we dropped her....but with the whole Lucy + Yukino combo(at least for now) angel really really doesn't belong at 42. Even before the combo ability Lucy did everything that Angel could do only better + more stuff. 36 would suit her better(only because of Gemini).
I agree about Angel, I kinda forgot about her. The only thing Angel has over Lucy is Caelum and some knowledge Lucy may not have. Doesn't really put her on Lucy's level.
I think Angel's best support is gemini, and how much magical power she has [to transform into another high tier].
Lol, I was about to bring up Angel.
She should definitely be lowered. She does have some of Lucy's most valuable spirits (Scorpio/Gemini) and does bring something else to the table (Caelum, a strong sniper), but she really lacks overal compared to Lucy and some of the other 42's.
She indeed is more of a 36er.
If we lowered her, can her gemini still transform into one of the 42s?
I'd day anyone from her tier and those that Gemini canonicaly transformed into (Gray, Lucy an Ichiya)
In the 42s, Gray, Lucy, and Lyon shouldn't be problems for either Angel or Lucy's Gemini. Kain and Freed may be a little more difficult, although I suppose it wouldn't be that much of a stretch. Voter interpretation and all.
Would you give Lucy's Gemini the ability to copy into the 48s? Natsu/Sting/Gajeel/Ikaruga/Rustyrose/Brain.
Being a member of Oracion Seis, and having shown the ability to copy Gray and particularly Ichiya theres not a lot of characters I wouldn't grant the the ability to copy. Which I suppose means, you could copy your own 42 pointer if you wanted to.
I wouldn't grant her the ability to copy Brain. The dragon slayers might be debatable now that they have second origin unlocked.
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Okay, back on topic.
I reckon we could have a side tournament next, after we tweak the tier list slightly, since there still needs to be changes done in there. Or do you guys want a main tournament? I have a few ideas.
Sure I'm in.
I'm just lurking until next tournament. I'm not well-equipped for low tier discussions
What do you mean by low tier discussions?
Risley, Duke, and I consider Yukino low tier^ I didn't pay much attention to these particular guys like the point of Pisces summoning etc
Will we be opening topics on Mirajane's Sitri and Angel?
Yeah, we should be soon. There's a bunch of new feats to discuss.
If things work out well, we could get some new characters to add from this arc. Among other things, we could also possibly add tree guy (whose name I have apparently forgotten), and Minerva.
Eh, not too sure about tree guy. Insta forest doesn't sound ilke something practical for the tier list.
That said, should we go ahead and host a tournament(give a week or something of the like for registration). to generate a little interest around here? Things kind of went downhill here with the manga.
If nothing else, anyone want to have a practice match?
Edit: Forgot we still had Angel and Mira to discuss? Though, am a bit afraid of putting up a discussion around here right now. Plus, as AS said. We'll get more characters this arc.
I'd rather wait a bit. We seem to be getting new characters and feats in the coming chapters.
So... I guess Cobra isn't getting nerfed or buffed here right?
Cobra doesn't really have any new feats, unfortunately.
I don't mind. He can stay OP as he is.
Not many feats besides Natsu huh? (Mirajane and Wendy too)
Yeah, the arc was pretty disappointing overall, in terms of feats.
I know I'm early in this but based off today's chapter:
Lala - Reminds me of the Executioners' Leader who isn't on the Tier List. Looks like he can Smash, Block (blocked a Fire Dragon's Iron Fist), Grab, and Throw. Extends his reach a little.
Hiroshi - Same with the Executioners' Leader, weapon based. However two feats, Super Slash and Chain Blade: Super Stab. Could be decent in close range but would need help I'm sure.
Drake - Another Guns Magic guy that is basically Bisca without knowledge benefit. Could be a better sniper but he lacks huge amounts of knowledge right now.
They all seem low-tier at best.
I agree, thus far. We'll see what else they can do next week, though.
Lala reminds me more of the vanish brothers. Atm, only one with enough feats to add imho. But yeah, will be pretty surprised if anyone of them is anything but low-tier in the end.
Likewise, actually. These guys are giving me the same vibes the Hungry Wolf Knights gave me.
Is this still a thing?
It is indeed still a thing.
We have been revived.
Quickly, someone vote in one of the still open topics about character changes or suggest a change before we die a slow, painful death.
We died again.
So we got some new feats.....
Was Loke already out when Lucy summoned virgo and saggy. Curious since we never saw her summon Loke on panel.
Wendy's arm thing, is kinda meh. Gives her a strength feat...but if your close enough to grab a character your close enough to pierce.
I can see Flare's Hotarubi being useful even if its not particularly powerful. I'm not getting what her Xdoes?
A few other users and I are planning a revival of the section come the start of the new semester for me. I'm not sure if it'll bring back activity, but it's worth the effort, at least.
Awesome, I'll make sure to stay active as possible, well I'm always active.
Yeah, I know I can trust you to be reliable.
Natsu is going to need a price raise after this chapter.
Wishful thinking, but could we just cap him?
I guess, at the very least Mashima has been consistent with Natsu since he unlocked second origin. But unless Mashima decides to gimp him in his next fight he's probably worth 60 now.
We could also probably add that bird thing.
I'd put him at below 60 simply because he lacks the team utility that people like Erza, Mirajane and Azuma have. He has the firepower and ability, just not the same versatility and value the others offer.
That bird thing? Not really. Like, it's the same as Happy and Charle (who were voted off by the way), but bigger. Hell, it's Angelica, who we voted off as well.
I'd also vouch against the dragons. Except Acnologia. We should totally add Acnologia.
You might be right. But I think he has some utility now. Better range, more AOE attack, and sensing.
Well I always did like Angelica.
But if I remember right, Angeilcas problem was mainly her lack of durability. And then the cats, lack any form of offensive feats.
The one-eyed bird, X X X with X toX. We also have X Xdurability. feats.
And agree on the dragons...especially Acnologia. Who doesn't like a challenge.
LPH, its true the bird demon has noticeable feats but I don't like the idea of including it either.
I don't mind including it. It's a bit different to everything else we have, sure, but that's no real reason to keep it off the tier list either - especially if we're actually going to reform the entire thing later anyway to accommodate for higher tier characters.
I've been behind on all of this. Could you please link the current tier list?
I really hope there are some hidden gems among Tartaros' members. I'm afraid of Silver being another Gray/Lyon.
Thoughts on Doriarte? Think he'd need a restriction? Otherwise it's just Lala, Drake, and Hiroshi for the low-tiers.
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