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Lion Vs. Tiger

Discussion in 'Outskirts Battledome Archive' started by Emperor Time, Apr 21, 2008.

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  1. Emperor Time Active Member

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    It on the grassland, so who would win? :amuse
     
  2. Xelloss Mazoku Priest Moderator

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  3. Sasori <font color="#8B0000">● GB Genius ●</font>

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    Dupe thread is dupe.
     
  4. CM Pope The Holy Father

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    Been done before.

    Tiger always wins this.

    A fully grown Bengal Tiger is bigger and stronger than a full grown male Lion...and a male Tiger can actually hunt as he doesn't have his ho's do all the work for him.
     
  5. Emperor Time Active Member

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    Hey I am trying at least.
     
  6. Sharinganmaster29 yoruichi sama's #1 fan

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    lions are too lazy
    tiger takes this
     
  7. Banhammer Banhammer Science

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  8. HumanWine Tis' not pee

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    Once they become the leader of a pride they are (lions). Before that though, they are literally on there own.
     
  9. Soul Vibe Formerly known as Espada

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    Been done before

    lurk moar
     
  10. Akatora Active Member

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    :huh Are you sure?

    The Sibirian is but the Bengal :oh


    Btw depends on what kind of Tiger and if it's a male or Female Lion.

    The Male could be Save if it's mane is large enough.


    Hmm going by weight your possibly right:
    Large Male lions rarely weight more then 250 Kg
    Grown up Bengals 180-272 Kg

    Sibirian however: large males weighing up to 384 kg
     
  11. Koerdis We're going on a rape quest

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    In my opinion the it is 50/50 the male lion, as its main purpose in life is to fight other males for territory and such, has a body built for fighting with other large felines where as tigers are solitary hunters.

    I reckon a female tiger would far outclass a female lion, but when it comes to males tigers arent as experienced in fighting large felines, plus they usually kill with a bite to the back of the neck, the lions mane disrupting the accuracy of the bite as it is very thick.

    Sorry if this is old info im new here. :amuse
     
  12. Kokain Autoanthropophagus

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    This, though the outcome should usually be in the lion's favor rather than 50/50. They've had actual lion vs tiger fights in the past, and usually the lion wins.

    I'll just elaborate on what Koerdis already said.

    First of all, although the tiger is the superior hunter, the lion is the superior fighter cause all they do is fight off other lions that encroach on their territory. This gives them the advantage as far as experience goes, because hunting is not fighting. Also, lions are more levelheaded in a fight, which makes a difference. I know it sounds stupid to talk about animals keeping their cool, but it's true; in general tigers are nervous around lions but not vice versa.

    Second of all, tigers are accustomed to killing with a neck bite, but you can't kill a lion that way unless you're a T-rex or something. When lions fight each other they don't go for the neck, they go for a spot right behind the foreleg, probably cause there's a major artery there, and just because it's a crippling wound. But tigers don't know this, they go for the throat and get a mouthful of hair and then get owned.

    Tigers have stronger hind limbs, because they need to leap and ambush. Male lions are weaker behind but much more built in the forelimbs, which is more well-suited to combat.
     
  13. fathertime Member

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    1. Tiger an lion Expert Dave hoover, said lions majority always win against tigers.
    2.Indian Zooligist an big cat Expert Jam sahib, says lions always win.
    3. Animal Trainer and Expert Louis Roth, favors the lion over the
    tiger in a fight.
    4. Animal Expert Alfred court, thinks the lion wins over the tiger in a fight.
    5.Animal Trainer John Helliot, favors the lion over the tiger in a fight.
    6.Animal Expert Dave Salmoni, says hed give the edge to a lion in a
    fight with a tiger.
    7.Animal Tamer Clyde Beatty, said lions will win more fights with tigers.
    8.Animal enthusiast and poet Oliver Goldsmith, ranked the lion over the tiger.
    9.Animal Expert an Tamer Courtney cooper, said lions usually win more
    in tiger fights.
    10.Poet an painter Geroge Buffon, picked lions over tigers in a fight.
    11. Big cat trainer Jim Chipperfeild supports the lion in a fight with a tiger.
    12.Big cat trainer Edward. jewitt wheeler, says the lion is superior to the tiger.
    13.Big cat tamer, Isac kaufman funk, agree;s lions are superior to tigers.
    14.Lion an tiger trainer, Willam seaver woods, says a lion would beat a tiger.
    15.Tiger an lion tamer Arther stimson Draper, says lions uaslly win against tigers.
    16.Brother of Isac kaufman funk, wilfred john funk agrees lions are superior.
    17.Marco peters lion and tiger trainer says male lions usally win in fights
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    18.Big cat expert Alex Kerr goes with a lion in a fight with a tiger.
    19.Indian zooligist Kalish shankala says lions beat tigers due to manes.
    20. Mr F.C owner of bowstock had a lion kill a tiger before his act started.
    21. Lee Yong Phil zoo keeper says lions dominate tigers.
    22. Frank C. Mendel, professor of pathology, says male lions mostly wins in fights with any tiger.
    23. Chapter 4 Sajamu, religous dances rein acting of lions that killed an ate tigers.
    24. Circus performer an big cat owner Geroge conklin says in his book the male lion has the advantage of having a mane.
    25. Lion an tiger tamer Bert nelson favors the lion in a fight with a tiger.
    26. John Seisensticker lion an tiger trainer gave his opinions on lions
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    Heres a few documented accounts, of lions killing tigers 1 on 1.
    Except for number 11, which is pretty Ironic, that most lion haters,
    say a tiger can kill a whole pride, but in that video just two, 1.5
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    1.Genius books/Animal facts, Lion named Nero killed Tim the tiger in
    an Australian zoo Documentary.
    2.1936 Agartala zoo in bengal, a lion kills a tiger. (Local news report)
    3.1935 Sikestonians saw a lion kill a tiger in a local town circus
    act.(Documentary)
    4. 2 tigers died, In the the big cage tiger from a lion-(Video)
    5.1955 oct, 6 Naturual history society, Page 465-468, 3 separate
    accounts lion won all 3.(Documentary)
    6.1960 Korea pit fights Male lions won majority of all fights.(Hidden
    news Report)
    7.1981 Martin. L Albert witnessed a lion kill a tiger.(Documentary)
    8.1954 Lion kills tiger with one blow in Boltimore zoo.(Documentary)
    9.1935 In the town Bedford, Masachusetts a zoo lost a tiger to a
    lion.(Local news)
    10.Gir foreset 3 tigers vs 3 lions, all lions won. (Video) -Youtube-
    11.2011 Korea two teen lions killed a adult Bengal tiger in an
    enclosure.(Video)- Youtube-
    12 King Edward the lion kills Dan the tiger. (Book)
    13.Calcutta zooligical gardens a lioness kills a tiger(News article)
    14.Gambier bulton, brittish mengerine saw a lioness kill a tiger.(News article)
    15.1925 Rudolf kludsky had several lions had killed his tigers.
    16. M. Herberts mengerine lion kills royal bengal tiger. (News article)
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    17.1970 pittsburgh Press lion kills tiger in india.(Video)
    18. Mr F.c owner of bowstock had a lion kill a tiger before his act.(News article)
    19.1949 in fitchburg a lion kills Roger the tiger in circus act.(News article)
    20 1851, In the Landshuter Zeitung a lion killed a tiger.(German news atricle)
    21.1985 Alan golds circus lion kills tiger
    22. Lion kills tiger: in a circus (February 1951. Detroit).
    23. Lion kills tiger: Happened in a zoo (September 1951. Madras Zoological Gardens).
    24 dave hoover 2 tigers killed by lions
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    25. Beatty cole lions kill 2 tigers
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    26.Clyde beattys circus act Ceasar the lion kills bobby the tiger
    27. Bavenna, OH, Lioness kills tigress
    28. Sir thomas lawrence page 281 lion kills bear an tiger in 1 fight
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    museums, portraying the lion winning against the tiger, why? Because
    apperntly they would have to have seen the incident, to etch it or
    sculpture it an these are from different people from Rome, to India,
    to Britain, to China all portraying the same thing the lion having the
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  14. Doommaker The Enigma

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    ^^ Damn that's a lot of sources.

    Animal Faceoff simulated this fight before, with the Lion winning due to his mane providing some protection.
     
  15. Luftwaffles Banned

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    Lion wins. Mane protection and because knowing how to hunt and survive does not equal fighting off other males for territory. Lions fight for dem ho's.
     
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    {ANATOMY lion?s Mane}
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    Now both males attack, one grappling with her head as the other bites her stomach. She twists away in pain from the stomach bite.
    Note the protection offered by the mane on the lion on the left as the female's claws and blows are cushioned by the thick matted fur.
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    http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN0521...CQQ3Aym9Ef6w2M4
    Indeed there are good scientific data that male lions with long manes are more likely to survive and have fewer injuries.
    The Fetal Matrix: Evolution, Development and Disease
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    This tiger was captured in India and went against a lion after being in captivity for only few days. Don't tell me that these few days changed the tiger's behavior in which it could not deliver a fatal neck bite.
    It was the Tiger's fight and he knew it. He sprang at the staggering Lion, took a fearful chop on the nose without flinching and set his teeth into the African's hairy throat. They wrestled desperately, and the Lion's heavy mane saved him from suffocation. Great mouthfuls of long coarse hair catching in the Tiger's teeth not only preventing him from getting a death grip, but so interfered with his with his respiration that he had to release the hold, whereupon the Lion swatted him with a tremendous uppercut and sent him tumbling twenty feet away.
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    The lion's mane, not possessed by the female, is evidently such a weapon of defense; it is a excellent means of protection against the bites which the male lions try to inflict on each other's necks when fighting for the females; consequently those males with the strongest manes have the greatest advantage in the sexual struggle.
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    The History of Creation, Or, The Development of the Earth and Its Inhabitants by the Action of naterual causes.
    By L. Dora Schmitz, Sir E Ray Lankester
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    ?Down sprang Caesar, determined to seize the offensive, but before he could do so, Bobby had battled his way through Caesar's paws, grabbed his mane so stubbornly that he couldn't move. For the next couple of minutes each struggled and strained for an advantage, but Bobby's hold was so tenacious that they only succeeded in twisting a little. With the cameras continuing to grind and getting nothing but a little harmless tug of war? Energy spent, the exhausted Bobby tried to roll away from Caesar, but Caesar's hold now was as firm as Bobby's which had been on his mane. Seeing this turn in affairs, I dashed into the cage. Already Caesar's jaws had crunched Bobby's neck and when I got there Caesar was shaking Bobby's limp, bloody head and throat from side to side. Bobby's eyes were turning starey. He was dead and it was only two minutes since I had dashed the ammonia into his face. I was keenly sorry that I had done it, but in thinking it over I became convinced that my part had been negligible. The lion is frequently the superior; he doubtless would have been the winner in this case no matter what I had done.?
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    If so, it is conceivable that a single male lion attacked by a pack of hyenas could reduce injury with the help of its mane. Manes protect males in interaspecific in other species. It may additionally confer advantages by limiting wounding in the neck region.
    ~Antipredator Defenses in Birds and Mammals
    By Timothy M. Caro
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    The lion's mane, not possessed by the female, is evidently such a weapon of defense; it is a excellent means of protection against the bites which the male lions try to inflict on each other's necks when fighting for the females; consequently those males with the strongest manes have the greatest advantedge in the sexual struggle.
    The History of Creation, Or, The Development of the Earth and Its Inhabitants by the Action of naterual causes.
    By L. Dora Schmitz, Sir E Ray Lankester
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    The mane is also a means of protection to the face and neck during fights between male lions.
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    It causes him to look bigger without increasing his weight or need for food. It also protects him from bites and scratches should he have to fight another male.
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    The mane protects the lion from bites to the throat or the neck.
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    The mane protects the lion during fights with other males.
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    The lion?s thick mane protects his neck against raking claws during fights with other males for membership in the pride.
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    (e.g lion's mane protects him from teeth and claws in a fight).
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    Male lions are the only cats with manes. This collar of long, thick hair covers the head, except the face, and the neck down to the shoulders and chest. The mane makes the male look even bigger and stronger than he is. It also protects him during fights. The long, thick hair softens the blows of his foes.
    Schaller, George B. "Lion." World Book Encyclopedia. 2002 ed. The best naturalist of the 20th century said that.
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    On the open savannah, a lion's mane advertises his maleness from a great distance. To enhance his mane, a lion will do the "lion strut": tip-toeing on front legs, erect body and tail. The mane also protects against claws and teeth in male combat.
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    A male lion's mane is designed to protect the animal from attacks from other lions. It apparently also works with hand grenades as well. Marjan's neck and chest were spared serious injury, but his face was badly mutilated by the blast.
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    The most distinctive feature of the male lion is its mane, a collar of long, thick fur. An adolescent male's mane will begin to grow at 18 months, after which it will continue to grow and darken until the age of five. A visual indicator of gender and power, the mane also serves to protect the lion's neck from other lions.
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    The mane helps protect the lion?s neck during fighting and make him appear larger to competitors
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    Their mane serves a number of purposes: a) it identifies him as a mature male to other lions, even at a distance b) it gives an appearance of increased size with little weight cost c) the condition of the mane conveys the level of health and vigour to female lions d) it can help protect the head and neck area in fights with other lions.
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    Samantha Stephens, says the lions mane might not make a big difference, but it might be that crucial amount of difference.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK9etg51Do8
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    ?When one animal attacks another, he seems to know by instinct. He strikes for the neck for a quick kill. Nature seems to have provided the lion with a defensive covering -- a mane to protect the neck area.?
    ~The Lion in Fact and in Fiction
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    ?The mane is strictly a male attribute and gives lion?s their majestic aura? It acts almost like a fencing mask, absorbing paw swipes aimed at the head and necks during fights between rivals. When mane?s grow to big for both rival?s, the fight can last up to hour?s due to the mane protecting the main arterie?s, little to nothing can be done to male?s who have mane?s that grown larger than others for it?s main reason is for combat .?
    ~The Art of Being a Lion
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    The mane plays an important role in the lion?s life. While a long mane that blows easily in the wind may be difficult to hide when hunting an alert zebra, it is a distinct advantage in defense? That same mane gives his neck a good bit of protection in case the intruder does not turn away and chooses to challenge the resident lion for his position.
    ~The Last Big Cats An Untamed Spirit
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    Male lions are larger than females and possess a voluminous mane which contrast with the sleek pelage on other parts of the body? The distinctive colors and sizes of manes may also help animals to identify individuals. An important secondary function of the mane is one of protection during fights. The dense mat of hair absorbs blows and harmlessly tangles claws in a part of the body towards which most social contact is directed; bites too, may leave an opponent with a mouth full of hair rather than skin.
    ~The Serengeti Lion A Study of Predator-Prey Relations Wildlife Behavior and Ecology series.
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    There is no direct evidence, but if we examine the probabilities in the case of a confrontation between the two some inferences can be drawn. In a fight would de unable to get close to the vital joint of a lion?s neck because of his thick mane, but the tiger is vulnerable to the lion. The film showed that the tiger was at an immediate disadvantage. Tigers use a throat grip as their primary means of killing and the lion's thick protective mane prevented the tiger gaining a hold on the throat joint. On the other hand, the tiger had no special protection, so was vulnerable to attack. In this fight, the tiger was killed. In any inter-species confrontation lions would also have the advantage of the who pride. But in my opinion a tiger is no match even for a single lion of equal strength. In any inter-species confrontation lions would also have the advantage of support from members of the whole pride. But in my opinion a tiger is no match even for a single lion of equal strength.
    Tiger! The Story of the Indian Tiger, by Kailash Sankhala.
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    Now, as to a lion and tiger, I should say that the tiger is the more powerful of the two. At the same time, it is more cowardly, has more of the slinking nature of the cat, and is more treacherous. I believe I?m fully qualified to state, as I?ve had them both on me. I bear the teeth marks of a lion that shut his jaws tight on my legs. But it isn?t the teeth of the big cats trainers fear so much. It is the claws, being hooked, tear out the flesh and sinew as they are withdrawn. When a lion goes at a trainer he starts right towards him, with no subterfuge, mouth open and tail as stiff as a poker. A tiger cringes and crawls until he makes his spring. In a fair fight it would be hard to guess which animal would come off victor, and much would depend, I think on the one that got the first good hold. The lion also is protected around the neck by the heavy mane, which is an advantage.
    ~George Conklln, ?Adventures With a Circus?
     
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    TIGER?S ROAR?
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    Cultrual knowledge
    - Seyoung lion defeating tiger
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    Lion fighting a nian who the tiger couldent.
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    Indian folklore has the lion as the ultimate test not tigers.
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    1.1902 lion named roosevlet killed peary the polar bear.
    2.John heliot?s circus lion named brutus kills polar bear.
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    3. lion kills polar bear 1955 By Alfred Court.[Book]Pages 131-132,
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    4. lion kills polar bear Louis Roth, forty years with jungle killers, [Book]
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    5.1893 Pezon in limoges, Leo the lion kills polar bear
    6.Boltimore the lion kills russian grizzley
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    7. Lion stale mate?s enormous grizzley bear
    THE OAKLAND TRIBUNE APRIL 1, 1895 "A DRAW" PARNELL FIGHTS A BIG BEAR.
    THE LOS ANGELES TIMES APRIL 2, 1895 "BRUIN THROWS LEO
    8. Lion kills bruin the grizzly bear
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    Done before. Depends on sizes.

    Equal size (Bengal for example) Lion has the advantage due to fighting experience and mane.

    But with a Siberian Tiger the Lion gets owned by sheer size difference.
     
  19. Xelloss Mazoku Priest Moderator

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    I would allow this nekro as the user did bring good points.
     
  20. fathertime Member

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    Lion an tiger's average the same weight's an what ever weight the tiger has reached, so has the lion.
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    No tiger in history has been documented fighting a lion with a full battle mane, the only account's exsisting protain's 70% of tiger's killing lion's, are of male tiger's killing female lion's an the other 30% never had a full battle mane, which is interperted into a lion that has a over grown mane like these...
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    Lion territory, being that tiger's are solitary an there are 100's of account's of lion's killing tiger's 1 on 1, a tiger has no chance of competeing directly with lion's. If they do release tiger's in the wild with lion's, they have to go by the same golden rule of cheetah's an leopard's when confronted by a lion they have to run to survive. Tiger's arnt neccisarily afraid of lion's though that would be there down fall, in an attempt to show dominace by roaring in a district to claim territory, it would cost the tiger his life, when he alert's lion's who usally live like these in coaltion's here...
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  21. The Mad King The Gent

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    Done before.

    Tiger Curbstomps due to size, power etc etc.

    Grassland the Lion sees this before he dies

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    -----Roman arena's-----
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    Caspian tiger's closest geno, were of Siberian tiger's by only a fraction off there Dna. So in term's scientist have concluded, they were imported from Siberia an fought with the Barbary lion.
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    There's only one source for all story's that has branched out for a victory of a tiger side, over the lion in the gladiator event's. It was a man name Martial peter's who saw a tiger kill a lion in the arena. Every time you here tiger's invaribly won, or the tiger won is manipulated to have been every match... but every one unbeknownst are only quoting martial peter's, who they ignore's his remnent an scripture, which say's that was very unexpected an was a rarity to see a tiger win, meaning lion's were usally the dominant animal. That's absouletly the only account on hand that date's that far back for the tiger's side, which were blown out of porportion's of claiming that was the usaul outcome. Better explained here...
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    -1. ?Next, the arena was lowered to feature combat between them as lions tore apart tigers, an went up against bears, leopards against wolves. It goes without saying that the Romans had never heard of animal rights.?
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    2. ?The amphitheatre had grown so still, that the clear melody of the flute was distinctly audible over the whole vast space. As soon as the disturbance ceased, the king of the beast, apparently untroubled by the new visitor, returned to his food. But the cowardice, peculiar to nocturnal beasts in the daylight, awoke in the tiger. He beheld in the shrieking multitude friends of the flute-player, and seeing the lion eating, seized the nearest piece of meat. But with a single bound the lion sprang forward, roaring loudly, to defend his property. The tiger?s claws clutched the lion?s and a fierce struggle began. The lion aimed terrible blows at his antagonist, which the tiger avoided with marvelous skill; the tiger?s teeth seized the lion?s mane, but at the same instant the latter tore off with his claws from the upper part of the tiger?s head half the skin, from which an eat and a broad trail of blood upon the sand, the tiger returned to his cage, where he howled piteously. The grating was raised, and soon only a faint whining was audible. Either the animal was dying, or the keepers had stupefied him to be able to cure him. The lion stood fiercely over his prey, which no one now disputed.?

    ~Antinous; a Romance of Ancient Rome
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    3. ?They took on tigers, bears, bulls, and wild boars. Usually the lion won. page 284?
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    ~Martin Seyer's dissertation (synopsis), Vienna University.
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    5.Tiger territory, AKA lairweb .com has stated tiger's were reluctant to enter combat as much as lion's greeted foe's in the arena, also proven in same concept of everland's video's how male lion's show high agression at time's an drive off tiger's proclaiming there natrual dominant trait's.

    6. An half way down, in this archive here, they state roman's cheered when lion's tore apart tiger's...
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    There are many Bia's tiger site's who hate the lion, I'll point one out for everyone.
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    Now in this site he claim's he has 367 account's of lion's killing tiger's, I noticed his account #4 was also repeated in his #88 an #352. They are the same account, so exact that even the mispelled word's are exact, he just changed the head line of the article to swap the date's. He would have gotton away with it, if he hadent put the fake account #4 with the real account #352 on the same site.
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    So I said to my self, if a person was going to lie on 60 account's in 1 crack, would he lie on other's??? Absolutly. So I craked open a 12 pack of good oh budweiser an told myself GAME ON!!! For hour's I mixed an matched all his so call 367 account's, to find only 30 account's. The rest were repeat's of the same account, only opinion's which had no fight's an faked account's. The only 30 had 80% of female lion's being killed by male tiger's, which dont count we all know the male lion's are the fighter's an junglar has been exploited showing the king of oude had only 3 lion's not 31.
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    A STANDS FOR ACOUNTS= WHICH IS TRUE OR/AN HAS RESOURCES
    B STANDS FOR BULLSHIT= and BIAS TALK, OR FAKE WORDINGS THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED
    O STANDS FOR OPINION= IDEAS OF FANS TO EXPERTS IN WHO MIGHT WIN, NO FIGHTS
    R STANDS FOR REPEAT=A REPEAT COPY OF THE SAME OCCAISION
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    1.A TRUE BUT HAS OTHER ALIBIES OF LIONS WINNING AS WELL
    2.O NO FIGHT
    3.B THERE ARE LION ACCOUNTS AND POOR RESOURCES
    4.B COPY OF NUMBER 88 CHANGED WORDINGS FROM NUMBER 352 NO 60 DEATHS
    64.A TRUE
    65.B CHANGED WORDINGS HORRIBLE GRAMMAR FAKED
    66.A TRUE BUT ONLY 1 LION DIED BILL THE LION NOT FOUR LIONS
    69.A TRUE YET WHAT ABOUT THE TIGER???
    70.O NO RESOURCE FROM ROY CHAPMAN WHOS MENTIONING AN OLD FIGHT SO NO FIGHT.
    71.O NO FIGHT
    72.A NO DEATH IT SAYS PERHAPS
    73.B IT WAS IN NAWARANGA WITH TONS OF ACCOUNTS ALIBIING SINGE LIONS WON
    77.A TRUE
    78.A NO DEATHS
    79.A CLYDE BEATTY LOST 4 TIGERS AFTER 3 MORE WILL BE ANY OTHES ARE REPEATS
    80.R REPEATING MENAGERIE
    81.A LOOKS AS A REPEAT WITH NO RESOURCE
    82.R REPEATING OF ROMAN TIMES
    83.A A 2X TIGER BIGGER KILLED A SMALL FEMALE LION
    84.O NO FIGHT
    85.P WHERE IN THE ROMAN DAYS???
    86.O WHAT FIGHT WHERE???
    87.B NO FIGHT ONLY ASUMPTIONS
    88.B REPEAT OF NUMBER 4 CHANGED WORDINGS FROM 352
    89.B REPEATING NUMBER 77
    90.B POOR RESOURCES LOOKS AS IF ITS TALKING POLITICS?
    91.A THOUGH ON A CRPPILED LION
    92.R REPEATING ROMAN DAYS
    93.A TRUE
    95.B WHERE THE ROMAN DAYS???
    96.R REPEATING ROY CHAPMAN SAME RESOURCE
    98.O NO IT SAYS THEY ARE FRIENDS ONLY PLAYING ROUGH NO DEATH
    99.R REPEATING ROMAN DAYS
    100.O NO DEATHS ONLY ASSUMPTIONS ON ROMAN DAYS
    101.R OF NUMBER 64
    102.A TRUE
    103.B NO DEATH
    104.O EVEN PARKER SAID BY NATURE STANDARDS LIONS WIN BECAUSE OF PRIDES
    105.R OF NUMBER 72
    106.O NO DEATHS
    107.O NO FIGHT
    108.R OF ROMAN DAYS
    109.A TRUE
    110.O NO FIGHTS
    111.O YES BUT NO KILLS SO CAN A LION
    112.B WHERE??? POOR GRAMMAR EVEN ITS TRUE THATS TWO ON ONE
    113.B IT WAS AN ACT NO DEATHS ANYWAY
    120.O NO DEATHS
    121.R REPEATING ROMAN TIMES WITH SAME SOURCE
    120.O AND NO DEATHS
    121.R REPEAT OF ROMAN DAYS SAME SOURCE
    122.A BUT NO DEATH
    123.A BUT NO DEATH
    124.A BUT NO DEATH
    125.A MORE PROOF
    126.R REPEATING ROMAN TIMES
    127.R REPEATING ROMAN TIMES SAME SOURCE
    128.R REPEATING ROMAN TIMES SAME SOURCE
    129.R OF CHARLES DARWIN
    130.R OF NUMBER 77
    131.O NOT IN ENGLISH
    132.O WHERE CAN AFRICAN MEET A BENGAL IN THE WILD???
    133.R OF NUMBER 132 WHICH TITLE IS ON MEDICINE???
    134.R REPEATING NUMER 133
    135.R REPETING ROMAN TIMES
    136.O NO FIGHT
    137.A MORE PROOF???
    138.R REPRAT OF ROMAN TIMES SAME SOURCE
    139.A BUT NO DEATH
    140.O NO FIGHT
    141.B SINGH HAD 4 ACCOUNTS LIONS WON
    142.A MORE PROOF???
    143.O NO FIGHT
    144.R OF NUMBER 143
    145.R OF 141
    148.O WHERE???
    149.R OF NUMBER 70
    150.R OF ROMAN TIMES AME SOURCE
    152.O NO FIGHTS
    153.B CHANGE WORDINGS OLIVER GOLD SMITH DUBBED LIONS ABOVE ALL
    154.O NO FIGHTS
    155.R OF 148
    156.R OF CLYDE BEATTYS SAME INCIDENT
    157.O REPEATING OF THE ROMAN DAYS
    158.O NO FIGHT
    159.O REPEATING OF THE ROMAN DAYS
    160.R OF 159
    161.R OF 158
    162.O NO FIGHT
    163.0 NO FIGHT
    164.A BUT NO DEATH
    165.A BUT NO DEATH
    166.A BUT NO DEATH
    167.R CLYDE BEATTYS SAME ACT
    168.O AND R
    169.O WITH NO PROOF
    170.R OF 169
    171.O WITH NO PROOF
    172.O WITH NO PROOF
    174.A LIONS WON
    175.A BUT NO DEATHS CHESTER WAS RAISED WITH ALL THOSE LIONS
    182.R REPEATING REX THE TIGER
    186.O WITH NO PROOF
    187.R OF BANGALORE ZOOLIGICAL GARDENS
    188.A LOOKS LIKE 187 AN 189
    189.A LOOKS LIKE 188 AN187
    190. A MORE PROOF???
    192.A NO DEATH
    193.R REPEATING CLYDE BEATTYS ACT
    194.R REPEATING CLYDE BEATTYS ACT
    200.R REPEATING CLYDE BEATTYS ACT
    201.O WITH OUT PROOF
    202.O AND REPEATING ROMAN DAYS
    203.O WITH NO PROOF
    204.O WITH NO PROOF
    205.O WITH NO PROOF
    206.B WHERE???
    207.O JUST NAMING ATTRIBUTES
    208.R REPEATING ROMAN TIMES
    209.A MORE PROOF
    210.B JUST NAMIMG ATTRIBUTES
    211.B JUST NAMING OPINIONS
    212.O JUST NAMING ATTRIBUTES
    213.R REPEATING ROMAN DAYS SAME SOURCE
    214.R OF MARTIAL
    215.R OF ONLY ATTRIBUTES NO FIGHTS
    216.R OF 70 CHAPMAN ANDREW SAME SOURCE
    217.B NOTHING ON TOPIC
    218.R OF NUMER 216
    219.B NO FIGHT
    220.B ONLY OPINIONS
    221.A MORE PROOF
    222.R REPEATING GEORGE WOODS AN CHANGED WORDINGS
    223.B ONLY NAMING ATTRIBUTES
    224.B ONLY NAMING ATTRIBUTES
    225.R OF ROMAN TIMES SAME SOURCE
    226.B ONLY NAMING ATTRIBUTES
    227.A BUT NO DEATHS OR WHO WON???
    228.R OF CLYDE BEATTYS ACT
    229.B NAMING NOTHING
    230.R OF BULL TIGER AN LION FIGHT.
    231.R OF NO DEATH OF FIGHT
    232.A TIGER KILLS LION CUBS/ HUMANS KILLED LION
    233.R OF NO DEATH
    234.B NO DEATH
    235.R OF ROMAN TIMES
    236.R OF NUMBER 137
    245. O WITH NO FIGHT
    246.R OF NUMBER 165
    247.R OF ATTRIBUTES OF BALANCE NO FIGHTS
    248.R OF CLYDE BEATTY ACTS
    248.R TWICE AS 248 NUMBER NOFIGHT
    249.A NO DEATHS OF ANY
    250.B CHANGED WORDINGS OF ZOOLIGICAL GARDENS WHICH HAD PROOF
    251.B NO DEATH ONLY PAST SPRWLS
    252.O NAIMING ONLY TRAITS
    253.A MORE PROOF???
    254.A TRUE
    255.R MENAGERIE
    256.A BOTH KILLING EACH OTHER BUT NO NUMBER COUNT
    257.R OF NUMBER 70 ROY CHAPMAN JUST FROM A DIFFERENT SOURCE
    258.R OF ROMAN TIMES SAME SOURCE
    290.B ONE TIGER KILLED 31 LIONS WHERE???
    291.R ROMAN TIMES
    292.R OF 256
    293.B A TIGER KILLS A TIGER NO LION FIGHT
    295.B ONLY A DEBATE
    296.O ON NOTHING BUT HYPE/ NO FIGHT
    297.B THERES NOTHING???
    298.A TRUE
    299.REPEAT OF
    300.R OF NUMBER 73
    301.B NO VICTORY
    302.B NO FIGHT ONLY ASUMPTIONS
    303.B NO FIGHT ONLY ASSUMPTIONS
    304.B NO FIGHT
    305. NOFIGHT ONLY IDEAS
    306.O NO FIGHT
    307.A/O THERES OTHERS SAY IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
    308.R REPEAT ON MENAGERIE
    309.O NO DEATH
    310.R ROMAN DAYS SAME SOURCE
    312.B NO FIGHT ONLY BIAS MABEL TALKING CRAP
    313.B THERES NOTHING
    314.B ITS EXPLAING AN EXPLANTION OF PRONOUNCIATION NO FIGHT
    315.O WHERE???
    316.R SAME STRORY THAT INVOLVES THE TIGER AN BOY
    317.A TRUE
    318.R REPEATING CLYDE BEATTYS ACTS
    319.R REPEATING ROMAN DAYS
    320.R REPEATING BRUSE HERALD
    321.O NO FIGHTS
    322.A BUT NO DEATHS
    323.O NO FIGHT
    324.R STORY REPEATING NUMBER 321
    325.A TRUE
    326.A MORE PROOF???
    327.B MORE PROOF OF WHAT RESORCE???
    328.A. MORE PROOF
    329.R REPEATING GERALD.L. WOOD
    330.R REPEATING GERALD .L. WOOD
    331.B NO FIGHT NO LION EVEN MENTIONED
    332.R OF NUMBER 316
    333.B YOU CANT SEE ANYTHING
    334.R REPEATING ONLY AN OPINION ON BALANCE
    335.B NO FIGHT ONLY A GUESSING GAME
    336.O AND REPEATING 335 POSIBBLY METIONING LIONS WON,
    337.R REPEATING THE TIGER SAVES THE PERSON IN ITALY
    338.A NO DEATHS
    339.R REPEATING THE CALCUTTA ZOO EVEN WITH CHANGED WORDINGS
    340.R OF LIONS IN HER THROES
    341.A TRUE
    342.A NO DEATH
    343.O THEY WERE ALL RAISED TOGERTHER WITH NO FIGHTS
    344.0 NO FIGHT
    345.O NO FIGHT
    346.O NO FIGHT
    347.O NO FIGHT
    348.O NO FIGHT
    349.A NO DEATH
    350.O NO DEATHS
    351.O NO FIGHT
    352.A/R AND THIS IS WHERE NUMMER 4 WAS CHANGED FROM THE 60 DEATHS
    352.R OF EDMONDS MENAGARERIE BOTH UNDER NUMBER 252
    353.O NO VICTOR
    354.O NO FIGHT
    355.R OF ROMAN TIMES
    356.O AN CANT READ ANYTHING
    357.R BRONX ZOO
    358.A NO DEATHS
    359.O NO FIGHT
    360.A TRUE
    361.R OF RAJAH THE TIGER
    362.A NO DEATHS
    363.O NO DEATHS
    364.R REPEATING CAGED INCIDENT WHICH ALSO LIONS HAVE AS WELL
    365.O NO FIGHT
    366.R OF ZOOLGICAL GARDENS
    367.R OF SINGH WHO ALSO HAS LION ACCOUNTS WINNING
     
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    All in all I love both lion's an tiger's equally. Come on... who didnt love "Rocky" eye of the tiger, or jungle book. Also for the lion the movie, "Ghost in the darkness" was the S!@#% an lion king as well, an beside's presenting more the lion's side "only" because there's Bia's site's like jacjacksonj's an indrajit an animal vs animal .com who only show the tiger side's leverage, since that's hardly the truth, as you can see I exploited 367 account's down to 30. XD The nerve of that punk, he even accused other's of being liar's, when basically he lied more than anyone had ever, on the subject XD XD
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    Beside's what I presented, I do truly feel if the attribute's an age's are the same along with male vs male 1 on 1 hypothetical, the lion should have a slight edge due to his mane. I mean I've listed over 8 account's of lion's killing Polar bear, Kodiak an Grizzley bear's one on one, who both can an has reached 2,000 pound's an has the title the world's largest an strongest carnivore, an the lion still killed them. So dont tell me that a measly 10-50 pound's hevier weight's is suppose to make up a 1,000 pound's like from those bear's, who in the same fashion bear's has killed tiger's more than vice versa. Come to think of it, I dont know of any account's of a tiger killing a male full grown polar or grizzly bear.
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    But anyway's the media, wiki an other's go by properganda. Saying tiger's are bigger than lion's when my data an many other's show's that tiger's an lion's are averagely the same size. People only speak of the max as if that's the average, when lion's have gone pass the 900 pound range as well, just type in 900 pound lion's on youtube. But all in all, both are dissapearing in an alarming rate, an it's a cool concept to talk about who's superior but they need our help in giving back respect to them, by donating or pitching in what ever you can, even volenterring like big cat rescue has been doing to help save so many mistreated an abandon lion's an tiger's... even the litte-est thing's, can make a difference in saving these 2 majestic animal's from extinction.
     
  25. Mikaveli Head is the answer

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    Holy shit, dude owned the fuck out of this thread.
     
  26. jNdee~ MangSlayer

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    The dude is giving this all he's got. Save his life guys
     
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    Dude bumped the thread up and proceeded to own everyone in it, lol.
     
  28. Roronoa-zoro The Will of Moss

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    fathertime how much $ is a Rooster-cockfighting full-year membership?
     
  29. Calamity when it strikes you're out

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    I have never seen someone defend an animal in an animal vs animal thread in the OBD this fiercely before. :maybe

    Anyone bothered to check out all those sources? There are easily more than 100 of them.
     
  30. jNdee~ MangSlayer

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    try it. It's like sharing his burden
     
  31. Beetroot A Tasty Treat

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    holy sweet baby jesus that guy feels passionately about this topic
     
  32. CrazyMoronX Old Man

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    Two apex predators with identical move sets and one is slightly larger.

    The Tiger wins 7/10 times.

    Given they are both vicious killers, the Lion keeps up.
     
  33. Vault Time: Donut of the heart

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    Fathertime raped the thread :lmao
     
  34. Ejenku Zero_Smoke

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    The Tiger wins in normal circumstances. Tiger and Lions have the same build, claws, teeth except the Tiger is larger. Bengal Tigers are slightly larger than African Lions. Siberian Tigers have at least a 200-400 weight advantage. In the animal kingdom size means everything. The larger predator usually wins the majority of the time.

    If the Tiger and Lion are the same size it would be really close. Tigers are superior fights/hunters but Lions have a mane. I still favor the Tiger here but it would be close.
     
  35. jNdee~ MangSlayer

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    read the thread again
     
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    Fathertime > your puny opinions. :maybe


     
  37. The Mad King The Gent

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    Fathertime is obviously Animal Man :LOS.
     
  38. themg3 Bijuu

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    Fathertime sure learned a lot about mother nature before Banging her :maybe
     
  39. Kuya God of the 5th Dimension

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    The Lion God has joined the forums :datass
     
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    fathertime solos. :lmao
     
  41. Weiss RYUU GA WAGA TEKI WO KURAU

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    rep this man

    I like tigers more though
     
  42. Vault Time: Donut of the heart

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    I haven't seen a thread destroyed like this in a very long time. I have visited it like 5 times just to laugh.

    Fathertime :pimp
     
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    Detailed fight's...
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    1."Clyde Beatty had a narrow escape at Sikeston, Mo., when "Detroit," a huge African lion, and a performing Siberian tiger, started a battle, which ended in the death of the tiger. Beatty had just finished his act and had stepped from the cage when "Detroit" pounced upon his tiger and the fight lasted for almost 20 minutes before "Detroit" broke the tiger's back. Beatty and his assistants, Capt. W. K. Bernardi, Eugene Scott, Grover McCage and others were unable to break up the fight. It was the second tiger that "Detroit" had killed in the last five weeks and Beatty stated the fight was the most ferocious that he had ever witnessed.
    ^Two tigers killed by same lion
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    2.Clyde beatty, preferred jungle cats to those born in captivity, which he thought were spoiled, and his courage at working with them became legendary. In 1928 at Kokomo a tiger landed on top of him only to be killed by a lion in an ensuing 25-minute fight that saved Beatty's life."
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    3.The first documents an event set up to entertain a prince who s. The fight took place in the pit of a palace compound with the entire encounter being recorded. The film showed that the tiger was at an immediate disadvantage. Tigers use a throat grip as their primary means of killing and the lion's thick protective mane prevented the tiger gaining a hold on the throat joint. On the other hand, the tiger had no special protection, so was vulnerable to attack. In this fight, the tiger was killed.
    ~Kailash Sankhala and Tiger Territory
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    4.. "I can cite a few instances of male tigers whipping male lions, but I can't think of one such case where the tiger didn't have a distinct advantage. I also recall a case where a tiger had a marked advantage and lost the fight. The lion seems to have no fear of the tiger.
    ~Clyde Beatty
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    5.?A lion slaps on the face of a tiger as they fight for the control of a pool at a zoo in Nanjing, east China's Jiangsu province July 18, 2004. The lion finally occupied the cool water of the pool in the summer heat wave after it defeated its challenger in two minutes.?
    ~People's Daily Online
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    6. ?When the safari spectators see a fight between the lion and the tiger cumulating they reveal a big interest. When the time comes the real image inside the safari is disappointing. To be how the lion is actually stronger.?
    ~Lee Yong Phil is a practiced lion & tiger keeper at the Everland Zoo, and on a interview on he clearly stated that Koreans who believe that the lion is no match for the tiger is living in a fairy tale. I been recently privileged to view the complete Everland videos and though evidently bias the tiger, the striped cat performed less than mediocre.
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    7.A tiger attacked an animal trainer during a ?Murat Shrine Circus? performance. The tiger grabbed the trainer by the hip, dragged her down, grabbed the leg and started pulling her towards the cage. One of the lions came off the pedestal and slapped the tiger with his paw and sent her flying through the air, giving the trainer a chance to escape. The trainer required 18 stitches. (ar-news e-mail, 03/1997)
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    8.Please don't forget the lion vs. tiger fight that was reported in last year's September (2005) edition of Monthly Chosun, the magazine with the largest circulation in South Korea nowadays. During this fight, Po Cheol the majestic male lion knocked out a very large, 200+ kg male tiger, sending him flying as far as 3 meters!
    ~Monthly Chosun
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    31?st of March, 1851, In the ?Landshuter Zeitung? (?Landshut Newspaper?)


    A drama at the Ganges.


    I?ll tell of one of these terrible fights, one you wouldn?t see again in a hundred years, a scene of blood and death that forever will haunt my mind. [?] The lion and his rival, the tiger, need air and space in great quantity. Here, and only here, are they really able to live and to rule. [?] (A long description of lions and tigers and how fierce both of them are, the actual event follows now) A Malayan slave ran towards us and shouted: ?Lion! Lion! Down there, at the river! It?s a big, fierce lion!?


    ?One more reason to take shelter in the house,? continued the colonel. ?Come, my friends, take the weapons! The lion is a troublesome guest.?


    We closed the house?s doors; the slaves got weapons and guarded the basement. We, to welcome this guest admirably, climbed up to the gallery from which we could overlook the Ganges. An unusually big lion walked haughtily down there, not looking around as he does when he has to fight an opponent, but instead ambling slowly and thoughtfully like a philosopher, he walked there. He stopped from time to time to rest a minute, and then continued majestically his way. Under a magnificent palm, he stopped, turned around two times, and finally lay down in the shadow. This was the rest of a magnificent ruler that had nothing to fear from any adversary. He rested easily, as do those who have made no enemies.


    Scarcely ten minutes had the lion lain there, when suddenly, he jumped up as though struck by lightning, roaring very deeply and scratching the ground with both hind legs, as though challenging an adversary. He lowered his head and, in a single bound, jumped at the palm?s stem to look about, to the right and left. Then he jumped down to ground to wait again, and his gaze lingered at one particular spot on the horizon.


    ?An enemy seems to approach,? the colonel said, ?a terrible enemy, if we look at the lion?s reaction. I predict that it will be a fierce fight, and many rich people would pay a great sum to see it if they were here right now.?


    ?And why,? I asked, ?don?t they stage some fights from time to time, if they would pay so much??


    ?Because what we have here is very rare. The lion won?t fight against a human but against a fierce animal, one as strong as he himself, such as a rhinoceros, an elephant, or a tiger.?


    ?A tiger! It?s really a tiger!? one of us shouted pointing a finger at the dangerous beast which jumped in huge leaps towards the lion. It was breathtaking, our eyes wandered from the lion to the tiger and from the tiger to the lion. The lion still was lurking. It was a terrible spectacle and we wagered who will win. Now they stood eyeball to eyeball with each other. They?d seen each other and wouldn?t leave unless one of them was lying dead at the ground. The tiger was unbelievably huge and beautiful with his long black stripes distributed all over his yellowish body. His fearful eyes seemed to burn, his head was lowered. We stood, at the most, 200 feet away. The sun shone brightly, so we could see their every move. I don?t think I have to mention that our hearts were in our mouths. The tiger closed in on the lion, but the lion remained calm. In the latter, we could see the force of the calmness in his powerful position; in the tiger, one could believe to see the violent tension of someone who has the impudence to disrespect a close danger, one who had the will to assault it. We could see a certain twitch in his legs, but he wasn?t about to flee. Did the crouching tiger want to kill the lion? I believe it did, and I admire the royal tiger?s courage, he would rather lie down in a burning furnace than be accused of cowardice!


    The lion had not moved at all, but we could see what was happening inside him by looking at his erected mane. From time to time, his countenance suggested a submissive gesture. But he, the king of animals, didn?t want to show any fear, but rather boldness, to his opponent. A duel was now inevitable. For the tiger it may be a glorious day, but for the lion it was certainly a festive day.


    With one leap, they could grab, bite, tear each other; with one leap they?d jump over the space of 20 feet that separated them from each other. Then, they leaped! The crash equaled the crash of two ships in a tempest! We could hear the bones breaking under the weight of their terrible paws, we could see chunks of flesh falling to the ground. They made no sound, but their gruff moaning indicated their rage and pain. Neither showed superiority and we wondered who would win. If the lion were to think that he had overpowered the tiger, the latter could earn the victory with a single move, shattering the surprised lion.


    The fight now lasted 10 minutes, and suddenly, as if they came to an agreement, both loosened their grip to gain their breath again. It was the motionlessness of the rage, but it was the calmness of the king. A few moments later, an unexpected incident which resurrected the fight took place: The tiger, which saw not only his defeat but also his death, used the moment. While his opponent was licking his wounded hind leg, he leaped 10 feet up the palm?s stem and stayed there. The lion looked around and couldn?t see his foe anymore; he roared, looked upwards, and he jumped at the tiger. But in this position it was impossible to continue the fight. They knew that only one of them would survive. The tiger jumped down and the lion followed him, but his leg caused him to shiver. A long fight wasn?t possible any more. Their claws were blunted, their jaws were tired, and they had lost much blood.


    The fighters? jaws were wedged in each other as they bit at each others? heads; we could feel the bones crushing. Suddenly the tiger retreated, wavered and fell down. The lion seized him with his terrible paws and it seemed like he wanted to punish the defeated opponent for his resistance.


    He didn?t loosen his grip, the merciless king of the forest, the feared lord of the wilderness; he tore the tiger apart, he crushed its skull. Suddenly a crocodile appeared out of the river. It seized the lion at his injured hind leg and dragged him into the water. The only remains of this fight were the dead tiger under the palm and some read streams of blood on the water surface.

    Translated into English by Leofwin.

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  44. fathertime Member

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    Exploited Everland Korea testimonial...
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    I?m reading a bit about risk in large animal hunting, and I ran across an article by Dereck Joubert on elephant hunting by lions in Botswana.



    Over the 4 years, we observed a total of 74 elephants killed by lions, including eleven elephants in 1993, seventeen in 1994, nineteen in 1995, and 27 in 1996, suggesting an increasing hunting success rate. All the elephants killed, with one exception, were from breeding herds (females and young). The exception was an adult bull, previously wounded by another bull, who remained alive for several days before eventually being killed by the lions. The great majority of the young elephants killed were males, and two-thirds of the kills were of elephants in the age range 4-15 years, with highest hunting success achieved for elephants aged 4-9 years (Table 1). The animals killed were commonly on the periphery of, or straggling behind, the breeding herds, with nearly half killed more than 50 m away from the main herd. Hunts were less commonly attempted on calves which were under the age of 4 years, which remained more closely associated with their mothers. Hunting success for elephants older than 4 years apparently doubled from 33% (n = 9) in 1993 to 62% (n = 61) in 1996. Many attempts to kill adults bulls were made in
    1996, when we saw lions attacking elephant bulls almost nightly although only one hunt was successful. All except one of the kills were made at night, and hunts occurred more commonly on dark moon nights than when the moon was bright.]//
     
  45. Calamity when it strikes you're out

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    Someone should make a profile for Fathertime. :maybe
    He has made me visit this thread 4 times already.
    Also, been a while since a necro turned out to be this good.
     
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    XD Whoop's!!! I posted the wrong link for exploiting the everland korea zoo's, that's actually the page where I got the exploiting number to the other account I exploited with the white tiger that was lied upoun, but anyway's here's the Korean's exploited...
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    By James Card

    Rumors about North Korean films of savage, staged fights involving endangered animals have been around for years. Now, the films are available. The video can be found at some video rental shops in South Korea, but hunting around is required. A handful of Korean online video retailers carry copies, which can be purchased for about 5,000 won (US$5). [1]

    In the late 1990s, the North's Joseon Science Film Studio videotaped animals attacking each other under the guise of the production being a nature documentary. The films were brought into South Korea and the Ministry of Unification holds them in its library of North Korean materials. Fighting Animals volumes 2-4 are available for public rental, though they are only in Korean. Virtually nothing has been written about them in English.

    The June 1997 edition of the Ministry of Unification's monthly Joseon had an article about the animal-fight film and a videotape was included with the issue. Then in 1999, Hanjoon Productions released Fighting Animals for general distribution to the South Korean public. But even today, the film's existence is not widely known.

    Many of the scenes, some of which are out of focus, are cut, spliced and hyper-edited as if to portray each scene as one seamless violent episode. Further scrutiny reveals this is far from the case.

    In all probability, North Korean leader Kim Jong-il sanctioned the filming of Fighting Animals, or at least gave it his curious approval - though there is no evidence he was directly involved despite his well-documented interest in filmmaking. The film's producers would have needed access to rare and valuable animals and the only place in the country that holds them is the Central Zoo in Pyongyang. Also, they would need the cooperation of the zookeepers to match up the different animals in shared cages and goad them enough to maul one another.

    The first scene is of two caged black foxes in a highly agitated state, rubbing against a tree and pawing the earth. The narrator says they are fighting over a piece of fish. They attack each other with bites to the neck in an enclosure with vertical steel bars. Then the film is spliced and the viewer sees two foxes with wet fur in a different cage built of fine-mesh chicken wire. After a few violent seconds, the scene instantly cuts back to the cage of vertical bars and the scene ends when one fox locks into the other with a death bite.

    In another scene, a lioness and a tiger are trapped in what appears to be a zoo cage. The background is of iron bars and fake rocks made of poured concrete. The animals growl. Though there is no explanation of why the two are poised to fight, it is assumed the battle is between two territorial animals being forced to share a small cage. The two tear into each other, with the lioness often fighting from her back.

    From this brief scene, the narrator posits that the lioness is cowardly and the tiger is the more powerful of these alpha-predators, hinting at animistic nationalism, in the sense that "our native beast is stronger than the foreign beast". The North Korean army chose the tiger as its symbolic mascot, named Hokuk-i, the "nation-defending tiger". Similarly, the tiger is used in numerous symbols in South Korea. Yet in the past neither country has protected the cherished icon.
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    Give the guy the title of "KING OF BATTLEDOME"
     
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    If anyone ever so much as mentions tiger vs. lion again you can just link them to this thread and let the ownage shine. :maybe

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    Haha what.
    Fuckin' crocodiles man.
     
  50. ThanatoSeraph By Heaven's Decree

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    Millions of years, pretty much no major changes. They're too perfect for changes. :zaru
     
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