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Discussion in 'Akihabara Library' started by Reznor, Jul 21, 2014.

Who do you want to lead during the first unification war?

  1. Moubu

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  1. Amol Chief of Wisdom

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    I didn't even know that chapter got released. Too many breaks does that.
    Anyway great chapter!
    While I don't find Ousen predicting rain spectacular(i know real life people who can do that) it is still noteworthy that Ousen is thinking of his army. It makes it seem like he is committed to this mission and wouldn't miss any minor detail.
    That is a good thing.
    The way Zhao discovered Qin's plan(though technically they still don't know entirety of plan. All Zhao right now knows is something strange is going on at that food depot) was genius writing from Hara.
    And Am I the only one who thinks that Ordo showing up is not a coincidence?
    IMO It was Ousen who manipulated Ordo to attack Zhao. Maybe not directly. He has spies in Ordo's ranks as we seen in this chapter. Ousen could have very easily fed relevant information to Ordo about Qin's attack on Zhao. I mean say even before Qin's forces marches towards Zhao, Ordo gets 'intel' about it. He would obviously do what any General with vendetta would do : Prepare his own army against Zhao. As long as Ordo believes that Qin's campaign is lengthy one(he wouldn't know about Gyou plan), he would believe that Riboku won't be able to come personally to fight him which presents unique opportunity for Yan to attack.
    Riboku was expecting Yan to attack, he is just surprised by timing. And I don't believe that timing is luck for Qin.
    Ousen's war has already started.
     
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    Oh man, the freaking tension :catshivers
    Awesome chapter indeed! More Ousen hype, more Riboku's henchman hype! And Yan is on the move! Hell yeah!

    At the same time, Shouheikun should've known that such a thing would alert Riboku. Should have increased security at all depots. But ah well. He probably counted on things being noticed too late.
     
  3. Amol Chief of Wisdom

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    To give increased security to every food depot would need more manpower, more micromanagement and more energy. Even if he had done it that would have resulted into all spies of Riboku getting killed at food depots which in turn would have alerted Riboku that food depots are for some reason important to SHK's plan. No matter what it wasn't kind of thing that can be kept secret for too long.
    There is really so much anyone can do in war of these kinds. No amount of prep can prepare you for everything. Both SHK and Riboku are in the end only humans. They can't be prepared for everything. People also expect Riboku to predict every move of Qin(and Yan too now). He really can't do that. I mean he is a single guy who right now fighting with two states, 2 strategical geniuses(SHK and Ousen) and more than 200k soldier enemies. He is gonna slip at some point. It is inevitable.
    As long as Hara keeps the tension up no matter who slips ,i am ok with it :bury
     
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    Yeah, ultimately, anything to do with the food depots would have tipped Riboku off, I guess.

    And I agree, this is gonna be one hell of an arc if Hara can keep this up!
     
  5. Dream forever flawless Administrator

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    Shit, the hype really is building for me. :ruri
     
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    Indeed, the thing is no matter how good a person's intuition and mind is, they need raw data to truly be able to base their decision upon.
    And it's limited the amount of data a person can have at every given time
     
  7. haegar Well-Known Member

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    ordo for fuckin president (of fodders) ... but still :pimp
     
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    Have you guys read X yet? :lmao
     
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  9. haegar Well-Known Member

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    ogiko :zaru

    honorable mention: ouki's secret weapon
     
  10. giantbiceps Oi! Bring me Ogiko

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    Another Great Heaven pulled out from Riboku's ass to save him :hestonpls
     
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    I'm not going for the spoiler, but that was to be expected. Hope it was still enough of a distraction to get our folks through.
     
  12. haegar Well-Known Member

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    i cant read dat shit anyways. pics aint very telling :hmm
     
  13. Senjou mhx gon' give it to ya

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    riboku isn't falling here or anytime soon anyways, I don't see it. I also have a really hard time believing they'll manage to pull this off tbh
     
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    Uhm, they have to fall. Otherwise Qin cannot go on conquering the other states. That's pretty much it, don't know how Hara wants to circumvent that.
     
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    At least try to use the link to the folks' own website: X!

    Hehe, that's Ousen for ya. And from giantbiceps's comment I thought Ordo was already defeated lol. But the fight is still ahead of us.
    And of course there's a guy who hates the government and doesn't want to do anything and is Three Great Heavens calibre.
     
  17. Sherlōck High Functioning Sociopath

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    I thought only Shin, Mou Ten & Ou Hon were going to Gyou but it seems like everyone is. :hmm
     
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    Yeah, why those three were called out separately kinda eludes me right now :hmm
     
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    Ye I know Zhao has to fall, but I get the feeling riboku won't die or will somehow escape to another state. Like, he's such a major antagonist I feel he'll end up just being such a huge pain in the ass to the unification of China throughout every other succeeding major campaign as well.
     
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    So it begins.:bury
     
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    Hmm, that would be feasible. Fleeing to another state and continuing to be a pain in the ass :lmao
    But I really want to see Shin decapitate him. And Houken. Though it really seems it's a bit early for that?
     
  23. Senjou mhx gon' give it to ya

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    ye that's exactly my point, it's too early for shin to take the heads of guys like that but being the mc we're all pretty sure he's gonna be the one to take it.
     
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    But since this arc is big, HE IS going to be promoted to General. So he's going to take some VIP heads in any case/be central to them taking Gyou etc.

    Damn, I'm so looking forward to the promotion ceremony :bury
     
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  25. haegar Well-Known Member

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    there's lots of heads for shin to take given his current status. he doesnt have to excel by taking down the big honchos. it'll be as good for his career if he shows he takes out threats in the coming harsh fights adequatelly. be they 2k or 10k commanders...

    HSU might just as well score points by coming up with good tactics. the special role the 3 kids are gonna get means heads wont be the only way they can score ...
     
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    But he does, actually. Did you forget the race to become a Great General of the Heavens? :bury
     
  27. JiraiyaForever Being Alpha

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    Kingdom on its way back to mind blowing, godlike, and most importantly "Kingdom Tier". Keep it up Hara.

    :bury
     
  28. haegar Well-Known Member

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    meh. riboku is gonna start moving fodders to draw defesinve lines, which will cost speed. suppose HSU brute force smashes some off those super quick w/o killing the no-name 5k commanders in the process, that not gonna count? *securing the main armies' unhindered progress* would be award worthy in this scenario, and totally fits the specs for the younster's groups ...then after there will be city siege stuff ...lots of opportunities ...

    that being said, while i'd prefer he does in some other weaker dudes first, yeah, think its likely he'll take apart houken at least this campaign...eventually ...
     
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    im interested in that hidden great heaven guy too.
     
  30. Kanki KIG

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    So this chapter we have 2 new characters, basically. Wow I can't wait. I don't see the new dude as pulling out the ass, I see it more as Hara built up to it. I don't see the Kisui example as a comparison really either since Kisui has never been hyped as 3GH level and there's a big difference between that and a normal GG.

    Anyways....

    > I'm feeling hype for General Kouchou. He just gives me powerful vibezzzzz.

    > Shibashou - I was expecting another beats from Zhao (that's all I know historically tbh). I'm assuming this is him. It's lit! I like his story too. He only has an army of 5k though. Hmmm.

    > Is it weird that I'm kinda more interested in what's gonna happen with Ordo and Shibashou? lol. Dayummmm.

    > "Commander of the East - Chouhaku". Another dude. Makes sense why we wouldn't have seen him. I'm guessing he's strong too, though a bit less than the others mentioned. Nonetheless, it's more greatness. I wanna skip forward 2 months X

    > Great chapter.
     
  31. Donquixote Doflamingo Master Puppeteer

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    Someone has bad memory.

    Go back a couple chapters its explained by shouheikun exactly why those three were singled out and told about the plan of attack
     
  32. shade0180 The Shadow that lurks behind you

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    Everyone is moving to Gyou while the Hi Shin unit and the other units are moving to Kantan.

    :meh
     
  33. Lance Pretender

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    Disappointed with this sudden new general :catprone
     
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    KIG!

    Find LW and Moe and we got a party...

    This arc has the feel of something that is going to be so damn epic.

    :bury
     
  35. Amol Chief of Wisdom

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    Spoilers for chapter 503
    Spoiler:

    1) Riboku orders army at the Capital to move to guard south of Yellow River.
    2) Zhao King overrides it saying army stays where King is(he is seen in bath with bunch of kids, boys. Shithead is a pedo).
    3) Every Qin cavalry plans to separate from it's Infantary.
    4) Zhao cavalry numbering 3000 to 5000 attacks Qin army. Ousen orders to ignore their attack and keep marching.
     
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    ^ I'm staying away for that.

    The hype though :bury
     
  37. Akatora Active Member

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    It's reasonable to introduce him that way, since the best way to have introduced him would probably be as a surprise opponent showing up when following the Yan army's advance.
    At this point in time Ordo might even have an old score to settle with him and that might be the reason he headed for that city in particular.
    Time will tell, reality got strong people showing up everywhere and weak people become strong people only to lose to weak people who then become the new strong people.
     
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    Just re-read how Shin lead 10k of Duke Hyou's men against Mangoku who he then cut down :bury
    These epic characters are always so awesome! Hoping for lots of those moments this arc.
     
  39. Akatora Active Member

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    and the translated chapter is out.
    As usual a great read.
     
  40. Black Mirror ̿'̿'\̵͇̿̿\з=( ͠? ͟ʖ ͡?)=ε/̵͇̿̿

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    "Kanki will handle it."

    He handles the whole manga.
     
  41. Senjou mhx gon' give it to ya

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    Zhao King needs to die.
    Scratch that he needs to be given to Kanki as gift.
    Riboku is an idiot for not assassinating him by now. He would have saved Zhao from lot of troubles.
    Renpa was the real smart guy in Zhao. He ditched Zhao at right time.
     
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    Good chapter. Did they have to make the king a pedophile? :lmao
    An uncooperative king is the best way to have a kingdom destroyed. Yay.

    X
     
  44. Senjou mhx gon' give it to ya

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    well, men of power in those days usually had some weird thing to them so it was an inevitable character flaw we were bound to encounter.
    thanks
     
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    People those days had other sets of morals and norms. But showing something like that to people nowadys will ensure we'll see him as a kind of monster.
     
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    Yeah, man. This pedo will die in the midst of this invasion. It's written in history and shit :bury
     
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    Spoiler: historical spoiler
    Just in case, maybe mark that spoiler as historical so people don't think it's a normal one...
    Didn't he also exile Riboku too? I really don't know anymore, might confuse it with some other thing happening.
     
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    first spoilers and images of 504 are out
     
  49. Sherlōck High Functioning Sociopath

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    Kingdom Chapter 504 is out

    X
     
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    Good chapter, I'm wondering what Ousen's plan is with that order, surely he wouldn't use this situation as a test? :hm
     

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