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Killer Bee Vs. Naruto

Discussion in 'Manga Battledome' started by alexxb, Sep 16, 2008.

Who Will Win??

Poll closed Sep 26, 2008.
  1. Killer Bee

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  2. Naruto

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  1. alexxb Member

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    Conditions: None/Both can use everything they have shown in the manga.
    Location: Heaven and Earth Bridge (Where Naruto Fights Oro)
    Starting Distance: 20 meters.
    State of Mind: Blood-lust/Out for the kill
    No Interruptions or Distractions/Fight Till Death

    I think Killer Bee would win (shocking huh) because he has more experience with his biju, stronger, faster, more battle experience, and his unpredictable sword taijutsu. But if Naruto was able to get a FRS on Killer Bee, I would wonder if his biju would heal him (probably not).... There is also

    Futton > Raiton

    Anyways, who do you think will win (and why). This would definitely be an interesting fight.

    This is a serious fight, which means no playing around from Kirabi anyone and there is NO PnJ.
     
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  2. Euraj StraightOuttaJakku

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    My guess of the winner of this battle is around Rasen-Shuriken too. I'd say, Kakuzu was a bit faster than Naruto too, but this was canceled by Naruto's clever usage of his Shadow Clones. Something to remember is, Naruto trying to land this Jutsu wouldn't be like Sasuke's little scuffle with the Jin in 411. You can't simply block Rasen-Shuriken with something like a sword, or can you merely sidestep it. The reason is because even Naruto just hits the ground, you would still have this problem:

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    Honestly, I would dare venture and say this would harm the Hachibi in his full form... After all, something like Amaterasu, in which Sasuke avoided with a mere Kawamiri, took it down.
     
  3. alexxb Member

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    You I think Kakuza was also a bit faster but I think that Kirabi is MUCH faster than Kakuza. He is definitely faster than Sasuke and Sasuke is also really fast (I think they say he is as fast as Lee with weights). Kirabi pretty much laughed at Sasuke's speed when he did X then X which lead to X. With that said, I'm pretty sure Naruto wouldn't even be able to keep up with Kirabi's speed (maybe with senjutsu but thats a different story) but that is where his clones would come in and "balance" things out. I'm pretty sure that FRS would still do the same thing to Kirabi that it did to X. So, I guess it all comes down to if Naruto can land a FRS on Kirabi.

    Or, KN? Vs Kirabi Biju Form.

    This would be a good fight.
     
  4. Lindgren Banned

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    Eh, I don't know how strong the current Naruto is, but at any rate, he is strong.

    In the end, Naruto have Kyuubi at this disposal, if it would come to that, he would win either way.
     
  5. TreeofSephri Scion of Balance

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    Hachibi's speed and strength are defeated by Naruto's fighting style. Hachibi's fighting style will not help much when he is surrounded by thousands of clones. If anything, he will merely waste chakra killing clones and leave himself open to a FRS to the back.
     
  6. EastPole Dying Thoughts

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    20 meter starting distance allows Hachibi to blitz and kill Naruto. As far as I can tell he has no way around that.
     
  7. Gary Zap!

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    FRS takes to long to build up the Killer bee will hit naruto already.
    Killer bee just keeps attacking naruto till he dies.....:cry
     
  8. Enclave Mr. Flibble's very cross

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    He would have fared far better than Sasuke, that's for certain. He wouldn't have been stupid enough to attack straight on like Sasuke did.

    Due to Killer Bee's not caring to dodge Chidori it does make me wonder if he would dodge the Fuuton: Rasengan (no need for the FRS unless he goes Biju mode), after all I doubt he could tank the Fuuton: Rasengan the way he could Chidori and 1 FR to the chest would almost certainly kill him.

    Basically, Killer Bee would most certainly win eventually (tougher fight than against Sasuke if only because Naruto's use of Kage Bunshin, Naruto is just better suited to fight somebody like Killer Bee) however the way he under-estimates his opponents does make me think Naruto does stand a chance as he does have a couple "I win" jutsu that could actually work on Killer Bee unlike Sasuke's Raitons. Obviously Naruto also has an elemental advantage which as we saw in the Sasuke vs Deidara fight is a pretty considerable advantage.
     
  9. alexxb Member

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    If it came down to a biju battle I'm not sure because I know Naruto will lose in biju battle in his 4-Tails form, but Kyuubi would most likely grow another tail. But, since we haven't seen that and the thread says, only things we have seen I will say that Killer Bee wins the biju battle because he just has WAY more experience with it than Naruto.

    Kirabi might just move out the of the FS. It was different with Sasuke because he also had a Raiton element so he could cancel out Sasuke's attack, but I'm pretty sure that Kirabi would know

    Futton > Raiton

    and make an attempt to dodge it. But this is a blood-lust fight so no need to worry about will he do ____ and ____ because they are both out for the kill and Kirabi wouldn't be "playing" around with Naruto like he did with Sasuke.
     
  10. G-Man It Ain't Easy Being G...

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    In-character, I would have given this to Naruto simply because Kirabi plays too much with obviously inferior foes.

    Bloodlusted, Kirabi either blitzes Naruto, or goes full bijuu, and now we have Hachibi vs four tailed Naruto. That one is anyone's guess.
     
  11. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    I say Naruto as Killer Bee IC will underestimate Naruto.
     
  12. durtycheese jiraiya=fail

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    i dont think naruto has the skill and strength to beat hachbi.... not yet at least.
     
  13. Enclave Mr. Flibble's very cross

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    Thing is though that there's no point in this topic if it's bloodlusted, after all if it's blood lusted Naruto doesn't really stand a whole lot of a chance (still would have done better than Sasuke though). However if you do it in character Naruto could potentially pull off a win.
     
  14. EastPole Dying Thoughts

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    Hold up, Senjutsu just kicked in yo. I completely forgot that Naruto had been developing this. Naruto owns without batting an eye until he goes Bijuu form, then he has to go KN4 which I think is stronger.
     
  15. Itachi's Apprentice 3 Sasuke is King of Kings

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    Killer bee rapes Narutu Sand Ninjas :zaru. He has way better control over his bijuu and his Raiton charged blades would kill Narutu's Kage Bunshin and then the original. Lol KN4 Narutu Full Bijuu Hachibi rapes Narutu before the transformation even begins :zaru.
     
  16. Dman That's fucking bueno

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    demon vs demon and naruto wins with kyuubi.
     
  17. Amatérasu’s Son Spring is in the air...and I'm sneezing.

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    Because Naruto has a lot more tails now!smile-big

    Naruto can conceivably do this. Senjutsu isn't perfect yet, but let's say he brought a bottle of toad oil with him. This turns the battle into an even Taijutsu or Naruto advantage. The swords would have to be countered with Kage Bunshin, Naruto has no other answer. That said Uzumaki Naruto Rendan would work nicely on him, though I'd up it to the two thousand to be safe.

    If it becomes a biju battle I'd say that KN4 Naruto beats Hachibi. If you look at it their chakra cannons were roughly equal. Even the size difference may not work. In fact a small maneuverable KN4 against a full size Eight Tails may be a huge disadvantage for Bee if Naruto is roughly equal to him in power. I keep going back to Akatsuki's sealing statue and how it takes all eight of the other beasts to balance out the Kyubi...I think it is outrageously more powerful.

    In the end though this may come down to Futon: Rasenshuriken. We have to be truthful here, there is no way in hell that the Hachibi can go head to head with that move. If Naruto gets it off, that's game. If it's Kyubi or Senjutsu powered even in Eight Tails mode it's game. And that's a hilarious concept that the Hachibi would tank FRS. I know no one has said it it's just hilarious to think about. I think he woudl dodge it though...he seems smart and experienced and Kakuzu instantly recognized it as a threat and I think KB would too.

    If it's a bloodlust thing, then Naruto really wins. This instantly becomes a Biju battle and nobody is more pissed off than the Nine Tails.
     
  18. Gspot El Capitan

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    Naruto FTW

    Naruto wins his hardest battles by toughing it out and overpowering his opponent through bringing out more and more Kyuubi-chakra, since he possesses that ultimate source of raw chakra and stamina in the Narutoverse. The times Naruto gets owned is when he gets played by a finesse move involving something Naruto utterly doesn't understand (e.g. Chuunin-Lee's taijutsu, Konoha-Invasion featherbell-genjutsu, Tsunade's monsterstrength), and his Kyuubi-factor isn't allowed to get going. When it becomes an all out brawl (e.g. Naruto vs. Neji, Naruto vs. Gaara, KN4 vs. Oro)... Naruto simply can't lose. We throw around the word "tank" or "beast" a lot to describe strong ninja, but Naruto is honestly the ultimate "beast".

    So, that leads me to my main argument - Hachibi basically fights the same style as Naruto (tough physical stamina and jinchuuriki powers for phenomenal physical attacks)... so Naruto will be able to tough it out and win, as he is the superior bijuu. Also, PS-Naruto showcased impressive tactical intelligence as well as the great Rasenshuriken against Kakuzu... so he is no longer that clumsy, retarded genin we all remember, who would obviously get raped by Hachibi in close-combat. Finally, adding his nicely-developing Senjutsu into the equation makes me confident that Naruto is more than able to stand up to the Hachibi in Hachibi's strongest areas. Naruto and Hachibi are both sick tanks (neither of them are going to die from even ridiculously lethal strikes like Chidori, which would end normal ninja), and Naruto would be able to at least hold his own in close-combat (using Rasenshuriken, kagebunshin, Senjutsu, chakra-shroud, and his improved basics) against Hachibi (Raiton swords, chakra-shroud, great basics).

    Since the battle isn't going to suddenly go to genjutsu or long-range elemental ninjustu, and neither Naruto nor Hachibi is likely to die quickly (given their inner-bijuu and tenacity), the battle would eventually go to bijuu-mode. There, KN4 seems just as powerful but much more more mobile and versatile than Hachibi. And, of course, if KN4 is a little less powerful than Hachibi... Naruto still has five more tails on top of that.
     
  19. Lord Genome Spiral King

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    Killerbee hits Naruto with a mountain buster

    Naruto dies
     
  20. defaultisset Hinata Acolyte

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    Killer bee has his bijuu trained. If Naruto was likewise trained he would win.

    9 on 8.
     
  21. the box BEAST

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    naruto has the ability to make 1000 of himself and surprise attack with FRS

    this is a real fight not team baka vs killer bee.

    who killerbee stomped and shited on by the way

    had to add that
     
  22. Chainer Flame of Ud?n Super Moderator

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    Agreed. Perhaps after the Senjutsu training (People, please stop using this in the battledome. He has not shown the ability to use it mid-battle.) he can pose a threat. But this is the Hachibi bloodlusted. His speed and power far outstrip Naruto, and he can easily end the battle in the beginning in base form using his swords.

    Keep in mind it takes Naruto time to go into KN4.
     
  23. Shoddragon Active Member

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    If naruto was granted as much control over the kyuubi as the hachibi has over his biju, then it would be a slaughterfest in favor of Naruto, but its about even, with so much control of the tailed states, killer bee edgeds out and grows more tails if necessary.
     
  24. alexxb Member

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    But he doesn't and each character can only use what they have shown so far, and Naruto hasn't even be able to control 4-Tails.

    Just to let you know, the ABC logic doesn't work with this anime because it is more about skills and uniqueness.
     
  25. The Scientist Perverted Sanin

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    killer bee is much more powerful than naruto and has a better control of his bijuu, eventhough his bijuu is weaker than the kyuubi. while naruto is weaker than killer bee and has no control over the 9 tail. after breaking it down like that, the winner is quite obvious.
     
  26. Amatérasu’s Son Spring is in the air...and I'm sneezing.

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    I understand what everyone is saying, but in a one on one situation where Naruto doesn't have to worry about hurting his teammates he could simply snap and let lose on Bee. Considering nowadays when he loses his temper it's straight to the three tails (see the FRS training arc) he could in theory make it to the four tails state in time. Also did anyone else notice that the transformation to Four Tails was far more destructive than Killer Bee's transformation to the full eight tails. If they both made it into their highest displayed tailed state, then Naruto I think wins. He has equal power (look at their chakra bullets roughly equal) but Naruto is highly mobile in this form, and on the surface appears more durable (e.g. Kusanagi no Tsurugi couldn't pierce him, but Eight Tails lost a tail to Chidori Eisou). In a biju battle I think it really does come down to power over control. The nine tails will destroy anything set before it and I think that includes other biju.
     
  27. alexxb Member

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    You are using to many Ifs and possibilities. This is a fight of what only the characters have shown nothing else. From that, I say Killer Bee wins.
     
  28. Amatérasu’s Son Spring is in the air...and I'm sneezing.

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    I acknowledge this argument. But if you would answer me one final hypothetical then...assuming they both get up to highest displayed power, Full Hachibi vs KN4 Naruto. Who wins?
     
  29. Inksplash Blastoise

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    Bloodlusted Naruto = KN4. Naruto takes it.
     
  30. alexxb Member

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    Why would you think a Full Hachibi (second strongest biju) couldn't be (less than half the power) KN4 (Which really isn't Naruto because he isn't the one controlling it)?? I would think it to be obvious that Kirbai would win with his MUCH more experience with his biju than Naruto. Also, we haven't even seen what Kirabi's biju special ability gives him (for Gaara its the auto sand defense, Naruto is chakra, and etc) but that is another story....

    I still will say

    Kirabi > Naruto

    (But it is nice to get all of your opinions).
     
  31. Hoshigaki The true Pimp of Iceland

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    Killer bee is obviously much more experienced with his Jinchuuriki, plus he's a much better fighter with out even going to Hachibi,

    As much that i'm a Naruto fan, Killer bee takes this
     
  32. Ibb Starship Captain

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    hmm this is a hard one.

    One thing that I know for a fact is that Naruto would do better then Sasuke did, that's for sure.

    Naruto would start out with clones, and Hachibi would be pushed to his limit rather fast.

    Rasengan would hurt Hachibi more then Chidori. Not enough to kill Killerbee, but I think we'd see blood form it.

    Base Killerbee v. Naruto would be a Naruto win easily.

    We haven't seen Naruto fight, ever. So we don't know how strong he is or how well he would to against Killerbee's three tailed mode. I know that base Naruto wouldn't be able to dodge it like Sasuke, but he could spread out his clones and confuse Killerbee, make him attack the wrong ones until Naruto can think of a plan. A super clone feint

    three tailed Killerbee v. Naruto would be a lot closer, but I still think Naruto might win it.

    If Killerbee were to go full bijuu on Naruto...Naruto would just summon Gamabunta. Gamabunta could jump out of the way go Chakra blasts, plus he has a sword the could deal with the tails. We don't know enough about Hachibi (weaknesses, powers, etc) to tell how long Gamabunta would do against him. Fuck Sasuke. However, Gamabunta is a very smart frog and he knew about Shukaku, so he might have information on Hachibi as well. The two of them could make a plan.

    Hachibi Killerbee v. Naruto + Gamabunta, who knows?


    I'd like to say that Naruto and Killerbee would tie, but the poll seems to want a victory so...I'll go with Naruto winning. Lol Sasuke, Naruto v. Kakuzu was a let down, but it makes Naruto look like a stronger ninja. A single three chapter fight for Naruto and three (6, 8, and 4) chapter fights for Sasuke, and Naruto most people think that Naruto could win his fights legit.
     
  33. ~SAGE~ The Number One

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    I think that at that distance and no sage arts that Hachibis taijutsu and swords is just too good plus his bijuu control is amazing
     
  34. alexxb Member

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    Kirabi Base Vs. Naruto Base isn't even funny. Speedblitz and its over. I don't know how Naruto is going to get around the whole unpredictable swords. Also, Killer Bee can use (control) all 8-Tails chakra shroud, he isn't limited to 3-tails like Naruto. Naruto would put up a decent fight, but thats it in his Base form. He would have to land a FRS to win for sure, but I don't see that happening with Killer Bee's speed.
     
  35. Ibb Starship Captain

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    Sasuke's speed is 4.5 (so say the data book and so it is). So Killerbee's speed is most likely somewhere between 4 and 5. At no point did we see Killerbee speed blitz Sasuke, he landed his hits because his movements can't be predicted. If you reread the sword fight you'll see what I'm talking about, when two ninja's are so far apart in speed we can see it like Kiba v. Naruto, Killerbee was moving at about the same speed as Sasuke.

    In Killerbee v. Naruto. Killerbee would have two oppions. 1) pull out one or less swords and try to speed blitz Naruto or 2) pull out all of his swords and use his seven sword style to fight the little orange ninja. # 2 is the smart one because Killerbee has no knowledge of Naruto's skills and running in without a plan isn't something that most ninja do.

    Even with Hachibi's super speed he'd need some time to set up his swords, this gives Naruto time to make Shadow clones and start his attack.
     
  36. ~SAGE~ The Number One

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    He didn't need time to set up his swords:huh. Plus Hachibi would own shadow clones cause I'm sure being a jinchuuriki and all he's got alot of chakra
     
  37. alexxb Member

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    Kirabi doesn't need time to set up his swords, he just throws them in the air and when they come down, he is in the pose.

    Anyways, Naruto most likely wouldn't be able to keep up with Kirabi's speed or swords so he would die/lose. Of course there is always the chakra shroud option, but Kirabi has that option too and he can control it more (with more tails) and I think

    Kirabi Biju Form > KN4.
     
  38. Lord Genome Spiral King

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    Dont put databook stats here, their pointless.

    Naruto has no grand speed feats that put him anywhere near Hachibi.

    Hachibi goes into bijuu form and spits a mountain buster on Naruto.
     
  39. Amatérasu’s Son Spring is in the air...and I'm sneezing.

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    I understand you. My reasoning for assuming the power of the Nine Tails is that great is because of the Akatsuki sealing statue. They stated that they could not seal the Nine Tails out of order or the statue would crumble. Now I don't presume to believe I know the internal mechanics of the Akatsuki Sealing Statue, but my logic tells me that all eight of the other beasts are required to balance out the Nine Tails. I also look at the destructiveness of Naruto's transformation into KN4. He leveled the area around him. On your argument of it's not really Naruto that's a valid point...but that means that it's the mind of Killer Bee and Hachibi, against an uncontrolled Kyubi at around 45% power. I think that Kyubi is more than familiar with his own abilities. Unlike the Three Tails there's nothing mindless about the Nine Tails.

    With all of this talk about biju, I never stopped to consider the Gamabunta factor.

    Seven Swords Assault? Naruto really has nothing for it. Put some Kage Bunshin in the way and set up a Rasengan for when he stops moving...and pray. Unless Naruto's developing a ranged Futon.

    But on the Chakra Bullet factor and as a measure of power...it seemed to me, that the two blasts displayed are equal. What do you think is stronger? Suigetsu's water wall, or Sanju Rashomon?
     
  40. alexxb Member

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    We never were able to see what Kirabi could do with his tails form or his biju form because Kishi rushed it. But, I would still think that a full Hachibi is greater than a less than half the power KN4.
     
  41. Enclave Mr. Flibble's very cross

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    No necessarily.

    We do know that the Kyuubi is about as powerful as all the other Biju combined. If the same applies to the Hachibi then that would mean that full on 8-tails of Hachibi would be about equal to half the Kyuubi's power. Of course we have no evidence at all to suggest that the Hachibi is as powerful as all the previous biju combined.
     
  42. Louis-954 http://www.kolektakon.com/

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    Hachibi has a strength, speed, endurance, and experience advantage on his side. I see no way Naruto can win.

    No we dont know that, its never been stated in the Manga. Dont make things up.
     
  43. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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  44. alexxb Member

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    Where were we told that the Kyuubi is as strong as all the other biju combined??
     
  45. Han Solo ANBU

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    Why is everyone commenting on Naruto having a speed disadvantage? Kakuzu was much faster than Naruto, but who outmaneuvered who? KB makes up any speed disadvantage Naruto might have.

    That said, while Naruto may stand a shot against Killer Bee's base form, mostly due to how Killer Bee's fighting style would be vulnerable to FRS, as soon as Killer Bee goes 3 tails it's pretty much over. Naruto could go KN4, but then Killer Bee would use his unreleased state.
     
  46. Eustass WTF BOOM

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  48. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    Like he did with Sasuke Killer Bee will underestimate Naruto and will lose.
     
  49. alexxb Member

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    Kirabi didn't lose due to underestimating Sasuke, he lost because Sasuke used a one-hitter (Amaterasu) or as I prefer, PnJ. Think about it, as soon as Kirabi sees Naruto's futon affinity, then Rasengan/FR/FRS (Wind > Lightning), and some of Kyuubi's power, Kirabi would know that he isn't fighting someone he can underestimate.

    Besides, I already said Bloodlust Kirabi (as in he is serious).
     
  50. Mikoto Uchiha To die for.

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    Sorry Naruto but I think the "Bee" wins. ^^

    It's hard for Naruto to reach Stage 5 of Kyuubi, and even if Stage 4 couldn't defeat the gay Orochimaru, what more against a jinchuuriki?
     

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