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Kakashi's Raikiri Vs Sasuke's Chidori

Discussion in 'Konoha Library Archives 2' started by richmass, Oct 22, 2009.

Who has the most expertise at using Chidori/Raikiri

  1. Kakashi

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  2. Sasuke

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    17.4%
  3. Draw

    13 vote(s)
    8.7%
  1. richmass Active Member

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    I made this thread To ask you guys which variant of the chidori you like better. Kakashi's Raikiri or Sasuke's Chidori.


    Standard Chidori/Raikiri

    I beleive Kakashi takes this, although both of them have been shown to use Chidori without handseals, and with Kakashi's recent chakra boost in part 2 it doesn't seem like either of them will be running out of chakra using it. Sasuke has never been shown to do any decent damage to anyone with his chidori.
    Gaara - Barely hurt him
    Naruto - Did some damage, but ultimately didn't effect him. (mostly due to the nine tails chakra.)
    Raikage - Flesh wound.

    Whereas Kakashi has more experience in this field, he killed haku instantly, serverly wounded Kakuzu and then killed him. Aswell as killing many other Fodder. It just seems like whereas sasuke has the ability to spam chidori at his opponents, he never really does any damage with it and ends up relying on the cursed seal aswell as his MS. Also, Kakashi's raikiri seems to be alot more powerful than Sasuke's chidori, probably due to the years of refinement.

    Chidori/Raikiri Variants

    I beleive this round is a draw. Sasuke has shown to be adept at using Chidori and has mastered it in a very short time (though not to an as high extent as Kakashi) and has successfully managed to create powerful variants such as
    Chidori senbon
    Chidori nakagashi (sp?)
    and his chidori katana combos

    Whereas Kakashi has shown
    Double Raikiri
    Raikiri wolf
    and a raikiri clone

    Although it seems like sasuke takes this, probably because of the short time and variety of the jutsu he has created, I feel as though Kakashi has a lot he hasn't shown. Raikiri has been his trademark jutsu from a very young age, and I think the reason we haven't seen more lightning varients is because he hasn't been in many fights whereas he has had to resort to using them (Such as the pein fight) and because of his wide jutsu pool he hasn't needed to.

    Anyway, Discuss! And vote. I'm probably being biast towards Kakashi so it will be good to hear your oppinions on wether Sasuke has truly surpassed Kakashi at his own technique.

    Edit - Who would win in a chidori vs raikiri variant fight? No other jutsu allowed except basic substitutions and clones
     
  2. ?_Camorra_? All ur chicken belongs to me

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    Kakashi's Raikiri is ranked S in the DB while Sasuke's Chidori is A-rank like all of his other variations,so there is a big difference.Also Kakashi's Chidori can cut a lightning bolt in half while Sasuke's strongest Raiton jutsu is a lightning bolt :zaru
     
  3. Ninpo-Otaku Active Member

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    Kakashi created it before sharingan. He's a raiton stud.
     
  4. richmass Active Member

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    True :L Sasuke had the sharingan to help him learn Chidori whereas Kakashi developed it himself before ataining the sharingan.
     
  5. Naruuby Proud ex-owner of Kyuubi

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    Good question. But the answer is no one and nothing.
     
  6. richmass Active Member

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    How can you expect Sasuke, a teenage nin to compare with adult ninjas who have been alive for nearly twice as long as he has, It's a complement comparing him to them in the first place. Itachi gave sasuke his sharingan techs, you can't expext Sasuke to surpass him overnight. Kakashi developed Raikiri on his own and has been using it alot longer than Sasuke. This thread aint bashing Itachi Jr, I was expecting mixed oppinions.
     
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  8. WAD Prime im wit it

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    Yeah. He really wanted to advance the "let me be all freaky like a snake" technique.

    It's because Sasuke hasn't had an excellent sensei as far as jutsu. He's mostly self-taught in a lot of his endeavors, something that he had long exceeded Naruto and Sakura in. Learning the Uchiha fireball technique before he graduated the Academy, developing his variations on chidori, Ameterasu, Susanoo.

    Isn't that enough?
     
  9. richmass Active Member

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    Sasuke Surpassed Itachi in Ameterasu Usage. And Will most likely surpass him in sharingan genjutsu aswell. Anyway, lets stay on topic.
     
  10. On and On &#32

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    This is retarded. Kakashi developed the ninjutsu and had been using it since Sasuke's age as a jonin. He later developed Raikiri, which is S-rank, while Chidori is A-rank. Clearly, Kakashi's is better. It's the same jutsu, but at different levels and different names pretty much.

    Read the manga.
     
  11. Kam1na Master Of The Four Elements

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    Exacly there are the same information on the databook.Raikiri a S-rank improved version of A-rank Chidori.
     
  12. richmass Active Member

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    But this thread is for comparing the VARIANTS that they have both created, I think it's pretty obvious in terms of power Kakashi's Raikiri takes it.
     
  13. Kam1na Master Of The Four Elements

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    Sasuke have Chidori Needles,Chidori Current and Chidori Sharp Spear and Kakashi have Lighting Clone and Lighting Hunt i think he show a jutsu similar to Sasuke's Chidori current so i think Kakashi variants are also more powerfull.
     
  14. perman07 Per ler mer

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    Yeah, having to learn ninjutsu from Orochimaru - probably the guy who knew the most ninjutsu in the world - Sasuke really had no help in the ninjutsu department:notrust
     
  15. WAD Prime im wit it

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    Exactly. Look all that good "all that ninjutsu" did for Orochimaru?

    And for Sasuke?

    It's pointless, it was a random ambition Orochimaru had, for purposes of fighting, why would you ever use anything other than your elemental affinity? Just so you have more ridiculous fodder mud clones to show on the anime?

    Now if Orochimaru was teaching him nothing but kinjutsu, then we have a slightly different story, because that was Oro's specialty, but...

    1. Why expand on jutsus that aren't powerful compared to variants of one's own affinity

    2. Why would Oro be teaching Sasuke all these powerful techniques to help him overcome Orochimaru, when it's clear that Sasuke has essentially learned no new jutsus from Orochimaru

    All of Sasuke's ninjutsu has been based off his own customizations to the chidori and LOLSHARINGAN.
     
  16. On and On &#32

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    Kakashi's Raikiri wolf is stronger than any of Sasuke's Chidori variants, as it is S-rank.

    And Kakashi said he can copy spatial composition up to the A-rank level during the Wind Training arc (when Yamato is explaining elements, I think), so any Chidori variant Sasuke could use Kakashi could copy, except maybe Nagashi from his body.

    The only other Raiton Sasuke has over Kakashi is Kirin.. which is lightning.. which Kakashi cut in half with Raikiri. Plus Kakashi has Raiton kagebunshin.

    On paper Kakashi is the better raiton user, Sasuke just uses them more.
     
  17. the_symbol_of_rebirth Active Member

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    Where Sasuke took his chidori variations to a higher level, Kakashi has more skill when using it. Just look at when he "killed" Kakuzu the first time, that was just pure skill.
     
  18. On and On &#32

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    ^ he was lying in wait. That was pure opportunity. Any ninja should be able to.
     
  19. Kam1na Master Of The Four Elements

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    Its was a sneak attack that has nothing to do with the power of his lighting ninjutsu.
     
  20. Time Expired Banned

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    I typically favor Kakashi too. :lmao

    Sasuke uses this all the time - I actually think it's his most versital jutsu. I was amazed that he cut right through eight tail's tentacle like that. He's fast to fall back on this jutsu.

    They both use it in extremely interesting ways, but it's Kakashi's jutsu and he never fails to impress.
     
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    Kakashi's is better by far.

    Sauce copied a well trained version of Kakashi's own.

    Besides why are you not count out Kakashi's own potential. He created a Mangekyou sharingan from a sharingan that was installed in him. Where was the best friend he had to kill?

    Yeah, Kakashi is bad ass
     
  22. the_symbol_of_rebirth Active Member

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    Thats what I said. Sasuke has more powerfull but Kakashi uses his better.
     
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    Sasuke Has mastered Chidori to length Kakashi would only ever dream of.
     
  24. Kitsukaru ̣<b> <font color="#FF1F00">Kage Bunshin?!</font></

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    The poll speaks the truth.
     
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    Kakashi Raikiri's Haku...big mess.
    Kakashi Raikiri's Kakuzu...big mess.

    Sasuke Chidori's Gaara...flesh wound.
    Sasuke Chidori's Killerbee...shocked, but unscathed.

    The winner here is clear.
     
  27. Air D Thaw, Frigid Heartbeat

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    Kakashi's Raikiri can kill in a heartbeat while Sasuke's is a little under developed. Yes, Sasuke has made many versions of his Chidori, but since Kakashi made it and has been perfecting it for many years, he'll take this hands down.
     
  28. ソラのシン-사마 ѕєχу кєувℓα∂є мαѕтєя

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    Kakashi created it when he was 13 without Sharingan.

    Sasuke is 16 with MS.
     
  29. ソラのシン-사마 ѕєχу кєувℓα∂є мαѕтєя

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    Do you not read?

    Raikiri is S-Class.

    Chidori is A-Class.


    Why even bother saying otherwise?
     
  30. Kam1na Master Of The Four Elements

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    We talk about who is more skilled in the use of Chidori/Raikiri Kakashi or Sasuke.
     

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