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Ichigo vs. Noitora

Discussion in 'Bleach Battledome' started by Mist Puppet, Feb 13, 2011.

  1. Mist Puppet HATE NEWSPAPERS Moderator

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    Location: Hueco Mundo desert
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    Ichigo is the exact same as he was right before he was about to fight Grimmjow in HM. Ichigo starts out in bankai and is unrestricted. Orihime and Nel are nowhere in sight.

    Scenario 1: Resurrecci?n banned
    Scenario 2: No restrictions
     
  2. Greed You lose...Again

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    Ichigo gets his ass kicked, both scenarios, low difficulty
     
  3. Casanova What is a King to a GOD?

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    Nnoitra wins both scenario
     
  4. Ava &#32

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    Ichigo is weaker than Nnoitra by far.
     
  5. Final Giku Tenshou Done with Naruto

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    Vaizard Bankai Ichigo is weaker than Unpatched Kenpachi?

    This same guy who was equal to Unpatched Kenpachi in terms of reiatsu output while Shikai in SS?

    Actually wait, you're implying Vaizard Bankai Ichigo is weaker than Patched Kenpachi?
     
  6. Ava &#32

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    Ichigo's Getsuga Tensho didn't even scratch Grimmjow, so it obviously won't do shit to Nnoitra.

    That leaves CQC, which Nnoitra will easily fodderize him in.

    Ichigo got a huge ass powerup from Zangetsu and that wasn't enough because his hollow still had to save his life, that's the only reason he even tied with Kenpachi, because as we saw earlier, Kenpachi was able to fodderize a Shikai Ichigo.
     
  7. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    You'd need the VB Ichigo who went up against Ulqy to defeat Nnoitra.
     
  8. Greed You lose...Again

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    Maybe more...
     
  9. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    Well I personally think the VB Ichigo who was superior to Base Ulquiorra could take Nnoi down with high difficulty,
     
  10. Greed You lose...Again

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    You see how much damage that Ichigo did to Ulq?
     
  11. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    Yeah but that doesn't matter. Nnoitra might have better defense than Ulquiorra but that's all he has. Ulquiorra is his superior in all other categories and his own style of fighting is more suited for battling Ichigo than Nnoitra's is.
     
  12. Greed You lose...Again

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    Not really, Ichigo is a CQC fighter. Nnoitra would dominate him there.

    As for defense, you don't understand. Ichigo is going to be doing very small amounts of damage, if any at all, and thats WITH his mask on
     
  13. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    Kenpachi can cut Nnoitra.

    Are you seriously saying one-handed Kenpachi is THAT much stronger than VB Ichigo? i find that hard to believe.
     
  14. Inertia Wants a Custom Title

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    The only chance for Ichigo is if he has resolve, which probably won't happen seeing the conditions. Grimmjow tanked a pointblank GT with no scratches whatsoever, so that attack obviously won't work against Nnoitra's Hierro. Ichigo could try to use his speed advantage similar to how Nelliel used hers, but that really won't work if Ichigo can't seriously injure Nnoitra. So I'd say Nnoitra takes this with mid difficulty due to his CQC skills.
     
  15. Greed You lose...Again

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    He is, even when patched.

    Look at how much Bankai Ichigo did to Base Ulq with a wide open hit. Nnoitras hierro is stronger. VB Ichigos getsuga didn't even phase Ulq

    Lets look at a stronger Ichigos doing against the 2nd strongest hierro
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    Compared to patched Kenny slashing off both Yammy and Nnoitras limbs like they were butter, with 1 hand.

    Ichigos attack power is far from Kennys, as is most characters

    The version in this thread is weaker than both, Ichigo will fail so bad :lmao
     
  16. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    Patched Kenpachi and Patchless Kenpachi are not stable things. It depends on how long he wears it and how much of his reiatsu it absorbs.

    I doubt the patched Kenpachi of HM was much weaker r than his full strength self as not much energy had been drained. He'd only been wearing it for a few months I think.

    And I just find it absurd Kenpachi gained a bajillion levels in strength while Ichigo did as well...but it left him still behind Kenny. It makes no sense.
     
  17. Greed You lose...Again

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    I don't think that theory on how long hes been wearing it determining his power is valid. Too many unknown variables would need to be applied for it to be true, so as far as Im concerned patched Kenny is patched Kenny

    What levels in strength do you speak of? Kennys striking power has always been high.
     
  18. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    He was equal to Shikai Ichigo. Even if you believe he got help from his Hollow that wouldn't make him way above Vizard Bankai Ichigo by the time he fought Ulquiorra.

    The idea Ichigo at his strongest level we've seen him at (that wasn't some bullshit temporary powerup) is still leagues behind Kenpachi is just dumb in my book.
     
  19. RemChu Lucky

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    Noi stomps, he states to have the hardest hierro. Masked Ichigo had trouble fighting a weaker hierro 4th ranked Ulq and he only beat grimm due to orohime rescue mode....so he would lose.
     
  20. Greed You lose...Again

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    Thats just how it is....

    Its pretty clear looking at how Kenny could dice up the Espadas with the 1st and 2nd strongest hierros, being ranked 0 and 5th, while VB Ichigo could barely nick the 4th, and after a poweup, nick the same Espada Kenny amputated many times

    FKT Ichigo, fully healed, is the strongest non-temp poweup Ichigo we've seen, not HM Ichigo...

    I don't get the problem here :huh
     
  21. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    Yammy is fodder who got cut by fodder.

    Ichigo could chop him into pieces with a pocket knife.
     
  22. Greed You lose...Again

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    So why couldn't he? :huh
     
  23. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    Because he wasn't at full power.

    No, wait. I got it. He lacked resolve!
     
  24. Greed You lose...Again

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    He was stronger than he was when he fought Ulq....

    Unohana confirmed his reiatsu in Bankai was already at Captain level, so he was far above "Fodder" level... He put on his mask, he was resolved and everything to end it in 1 blow (Like he was with beating Grimm in 11 seconds). Yammys hierro shouldn't have been a problem were it truly weak
     
  25. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    Ichigo's Bankai has been Captain level since SS. Big deal.

    Ichigo's strength seems to be the most inconsistent thing in this series. Not his power level - I mean his acual physical strength. The idea he's now leagues behind Kenpachi is retarded.
     
  26. Greed You lose...Again

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    When has Ichigos physical strength ever exceeded Kennys? :huh

    Minus post Dangai
     
  27. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    He was Kenny's equal in SS.

    The obvious implication being that when he went in to learn Bankai, he was his superior.

    But alas that ide awas tossed to the winds.
     
  28. Azrael Finalstar The Corrupted Shadow

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    My theory for Kenny's powerup is that he's talking to his sword, so they no longer are at odds with each other.
     
  29. Millón Vasto Kubo nuff said

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    Ichigo wins both scenarios.

    He should be able to keep getsuga in his blade instead of firing condensing all the power in his sword increasing it's cutting power. He should be able to cut noitora in this way which is more effective then just firing getsuga thensou like a beam. Also he has the adventage in speed as well As for noitora's released form his vizard mask increases his speed and strength significantly he has an even bigger speed advantage over noitora.
     
  30. Orxon shurorororo

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    Ichigo gets stomped.

    His GT obviously useless, even against Base Ulquiorra, all he can do is scratch him up close. Nnoitra will murder in close quarters and very easily at that.
     
  31. Excalibur Cana? Where are you!

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    Scenario 1: The only restriction here is Nnoitra's release right? LoL VBI owns Nnoitra here LoL...

    Scenario 2: No restrictions. With no Orihime or Nelliel to cheer him up here, I don't think Ichigo here will have the same resolve he had against Grimmjow. Nnoitra most probably wins...

    I AM considering Grimmjow's Released Hierro > Base Nnoitra's Hierro... Nnoitra's hierro is the strongest of course but that doesn't mean it is by far the strongest... Specialy compared also to Grimmjow who surely doesn't have bad hierro, one of the top 4 with strongest Hierro in my opinion.

    Scenario 2 Ichigo would win if he had resolve like he had against Grimmjow.
    Without :giogio but I wouldn't say he get's utterly owned... Nnoitra would defeat an unresolved Ichigo with midd-difficulty.

    LoL KT why do you say Nnoitra wins both scenarios :lmao ... Are you implying that Nnoitra in base is stronger than both Grimmjow and Ulquiorra in base and also stronger than Released Grimmjow? IMO He surely loses Scenario 1... Since Ichigo can use his Mask.
     
  33. Jabbercrow Member

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    If it hadn't been for Hime then I don't think Ichigo would have beaten GJ so Nnoitra wins. In terms of scenario I don't think Ichigo wins in either one as Nnoitra is a rank higher than GJ, he has greater hierro and has enough power and martial skill to still pack a punch. Perhaps he might be temporarily overwhelmed by the mask ala Nel, but ultimately I see him taking it where GJ couldn't until the mask runs dry.
     
  34. Grimm

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    This is HM Ichigo not Arrancar/Vaizard arc Ichigo... HM Ichigo can use the mask for far to long... Nnoitra isn't going to win scenario 1 FOR SURE! But he can win Scenario 2 with midd difficulty depending on Ichigo's resolve... If he has resolve he defeats Nnoitra...
     
  35. Jabbercrow Member

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    I know it is HM arc Ichigo, but his mask still wears out. With mask he was still unable a lot of the time to penetrate GJ's hierro which I wouldn't consider necessarily harder than Nnoitra's even in base. The only time he really did any damage was when he had some resolve. But without his cheerleaders, I doubt he will get that. Ergo I really do think Ichigo loses both scenarios due to lack of cutting power.
     
  36. Grimm

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    Nah but Ichigo still has the strenght to penetrate Nnoitra's hierro... His mask makes him overpower Grimmjow and Ulquiorra in base and also Halibel did make a good coment about Ichigo with Mask... Why would Nnoitra win IMO.. he surely loses scenario 1 man... But if this was Bankai Ichigo vs Base Nnoitra than Bankai Ichigo would MOST probably lose but would give NNoitra a very hard time!
     
  37. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    Thsiwhole strongest Hierro business is bullshit anyway.

    How much stronger is it than Ulquiorra's?
     
  38. LittleLamplightMassacre Monkeys dehyping one at a time

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    For those of you who think released Grimmjow would lose to a base Nnoitra...

    Scenario 2 is a no-contest.
     
  39. Greidy Well-Known Member

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    Nnoitra takes both scenarios.
     
  40. Greed You lose...Again

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    :rotfl

    Do you plan all this out beforehand or do you make it up as you go? :lmao

    Anyway, Nnoitra kicks Grimmjows ass in Base, does the same to Ichigo
     
  41. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    You know it's odd, despite being the "best fighter" among the espada Nnoitra sure was mostly getting his ass handed to him by a Nel who hadn't fought in years...so I guess...Nel is the best fighter the espada has ever seen :lmao
     
  43. Greed You lose...Again

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    Psh :maybe

    She wasn't doin nothing.
     
  44. Magicbullet Banned

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    no no, he wasn't doing nothing, other than getting pushed around...
     
  45. Greed You lose...Again

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    Hence why Ichigo wanted to go save Nel and she released :zaru
     
  46. Magicbullet Banned

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    Ichigo will want to save anyone...and anything....:lmao
    Don't imply she was losing :notrust
     
  47. Greed You lose...Again

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    X

    Implies she was gettin her ass kicked
     
  48. Magicbullet Banned

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    Implying Noi isn't full of shit is funeh :amuse

    She still didn't have a mark on her, had they continued like that the outcome was obvious.
     
  49. Greed You lose...Again

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    You mean with her in Base?

    She would've died :lmao
     
  50. Azrael Finalstar The Corrupted Shadow

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    She was raping the shit out of him. Thats not the point here.
     

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