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How Evil is Zeref?

Discussion in 'Fairy Tail' started by DemonDragonJ, Jul 6, 2013.

  1. DemonDragonJ Friend of Freedom, Opponent of Oppression

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    Zeref seems to be the most major antagonist of this story, and is likely to be the final villain, but the exact extent of his evilness seems to be uncertain at best. At times, he seems to be sympathetic and regretful of all the warfare and conflict that exists in the world, but, at other times, he is completely evil and seeks to annihilate everything, which is an interesting contrast of personalities.

    What does everyone else say about Zeref? Is he completely evil, or only a tragic and tormented soul? What may account for his differences of personality?
     
  2. Azeruth TT3 Champion

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    I guess it depends on what his past self was like. I believe he's over 400 years old, and almost all of the demons and black magic is attributed to him. However his own assessment is different:

    He says he saw numerous people dying 400 years earlier (http://www.mangastream.to/fairy-tail-chapter-250-page-6.html) and came to see the value of life (http://www.[Blocked Domain]/fairy-tail/250/5).

    He then claims to be cursed (http://www.[Blocked Domain]/fairy-tail/250/6) in that the more he values life the more life he takes (http://www.mangastream.to/fairy-tail-chapter-250-page-7.html).

    This comes from two different translations of course, but they both follow something similar.

    He doesn't want to kill people, but because he values life he's cursed to kill people. If he forgets about the value of life, no one dies.

    However as he does to Hades, he can punish people (http://www.mangastream.to/fairy-tail-chapter-250-page-8.html) with his magic, showing he has some control over it (http://www.[Blocked Domain]/fairy-tail/250/7). Either that or he remembered the value of life and used it to kill Hades specifically.

    He also has the ability to call in Acnologia (http://www.mangastream.to/fairy-tail-chapter-242-page-10.html) apparently. He seems like a Chaotic Neutral I guess, and if his own assessment is true, not really evil, just cursed.
     
  3. Atlantic Storm Booze Intermission Administrator

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    At the moment, he seems to just be mad that nobody likes him. I wouldn't say he's evil; just very bitter.
     
  4. Impact Grimm

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    I think he just needs a hug and someone to kill him.

    He's seems very lonely in the last chapter because no one cares about him and how people will never change no matter how much time has passed.
     
  5. MartialHorror DosuKage!

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    Zeref created a crazy amount of evil demons...that flute...the monster which Ur sacrificed herself to stop and his most vile creation: KIM KARDASHIAN!

    Naturally, Zeref is evil incarnate.
     
  6. Sartharion The Onyx Guardian

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    So evil, Madara shits his pants when he sees him.
     
  7. haegar Well-Known Member

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    I think Zeref ins't evil but detests evil. he just happens to be a) dumb) and b) lazy because in reaction to the world having evil assholes in it deciding to wipe out the world, for that ya need to be dumb, and also be lazy, cause it would actually be much more work to show them true evil suckers the error of their ways.

    also, prly he needs to get laid real bad.
     
  8. Sartharion The Onyx Guardian

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    I believe he and Mavis did it. :maybe
     
  9. Chuain Failpakuto

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    He is probably less evil then the people on this forum :maybe

    If his power is 100 percent natural for him then its a very unfortunate one for someone who seems to want friends and see the good in people. His powers aren't good for stuff like that, could you imagine him trying to be a doctor and killing his patients instead by touching them? Death only brings out terror, and more death, he literally won't ever see anything pleasant as long as he has powers. Too bad a mages powers are fueled by their life, which would explain why Zeref wants to die.
     
  10. belkrax King Of Imagination

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    He killed Fairy Tails only menacing villain, Hades.

    He is THAT evil.
     
  11. Superman LvL 30

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    As evil as an emo goth kid.
     
  12. Moe Active Member

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    Addition made.

    /Thread.
     
  13. Muk Let's play a game, Ophelia

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    i think the world rejects his magic

    as a person he ain't so bad, but the world keeps rejecting his magic
    so in conclusion he rejects the world, since his magic is part of himself and you got yourself a war :zaru
     
  14. Sartharion The Onyx Guardian

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    Soon he will start killing people left and right.
     
  15. Bushman Laxus!!!

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    this^

    Zeref is like a depressed emo that wants to destoy the world because he is sad.

    Mavis shouldn't fight Zeref. She should open her legs to Zeref.
    Zeref after getting laid will never destroy the world.
    He will be too happy to do so!
     
  16. ThatGuyWitaStic New Member

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    I guess anyone who lives that long will turn out like him.Bored/Sad doesn't know what to make of humanity any more because they make the same mistake over and over. I think his 50/50(good/evil)but now leaning more towards evil.
     
  17. Drawing Chalk Member

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    In Hiro Logic, Minerva is more evil than him
     

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