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How did tobi give Nagato the rinnegan?

Discussion in 'Konoha Library' started by Krippy, Apr 30, 2012.

  1. Krippy &#32

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    When tobi fought Konan, he X that it was him who gave nagato the rinnegan, and subsequently formed the akatsuki.

    Later we see the real madara, who X disbelief that nagato betrayed him and never used Rinne Tensei to revive him.

    And later we see Tobi and his X with their Sharinegan. I understand where these sharingan came from, but Does tobi have a secret stash of rinnegan eyes that he keeps laying around his secret lab?

    Will he give a couple to Sasuke? :hurr
     
  2. crisler Active Member

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    just to point out, tobi didn't give/implant sharingans in his edo jins...

    he just used those jins as his path...like how nagato used those 6 bodies for his paths.

    that's why the edo jins have a sharingan and a rinnegan, just like tobi does.

    and i'm pretty sure if you try to pluck out the eyes of edo tenseis, it'll just regenerate...
     
  3. Krippy &#32

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    ^ Oh, so it was like gedo mazo chakra transmission?

    Thanks for the explaination. :quite
     
  4. Thdyingbreed Rampaging Beast

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    Tobi likely deactivated Madara's Rinnegan put Nagato a under genjutsu when he was young and implanted the Rinnegan into his head.

    The six paths likely take on the dojutsu of there user he doesn't have extras lying around.

    Sasuke will be getting his own Rinnegan at some point he doesn't need Madara's since we know EMS can be turned into a Rinnegan with Senju DNA.
     
  5. MrCatalyst Member

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    Oh? Now it makes sense why Six Paths had Rinnegan.. xD

    How Tobi gave Nagato the Rinnegan?
    Simples! Madara said that he got his Rinnegan shortly before his death so at that point, Tobi must've been created (I assume he's Zetsu with Madara's and Hashi's DNA) which explains why Madara knew Nagato as a kid.* Tobi was there to probably convience Nagato to use Rinne Tensei on Madara to bring him back to life if of course Nagato didn't die and Tsuki no Me was done (Naruto most likely captured or at least Bee?).
    Current Edo Madara was brought back as he was during his prime, hence he looks so young and Hashi's face was added by Kabuto so yeah.

    * We know Hashi and Mito were about same age and so was Madara. Mito was alive when Nagato was a kid so Madara could live that long easily as well, in fact he might've been in maybe his 70s at most (Nagato and Kushina are same age or at least around it, and Kushina has had Kyuubi sealed inside of her when she was a kid whilst Mito was nearing her 80s perhaps.
     
  6. Klue 輪廻

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    He ripped out Nagato's eyes and stuffed his (Madara's eyes) in its place.

    The simplest answer is usually the best answer. :maybe
     
  7. LostSelf Forest Sage

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    Tobi also claimed he was Madara.

    Tobi is a liar.

    If Nagato's eyes were a "gift" then it was because the real Madara gave them to him (Or had an intercourse with Nagato's mother :hurr)
     
  8. Klue 輪廻

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    Tobi is a liar, but he doesn't simply lie for the sake of lying.
     
  9. DUNGEON Hardcore

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    with his hands..
     
  10. LostSelf Forest Sage

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    He called himself Madara in his mind when he was talking to himself.

    When Tobi said he gave Nagato's eyes Madara was not revealed, so probably Kishi said that at the time, just like tobi said in his mind "My power, Madara's power"

    Madara said "That brat Nagato grew up" or something like that.

    I see more posible that Madara was the one that gave Nagato the Rinnegan somehow and not Tobi.
     
  11. T-Bag Blackbeard

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    well tobi was posing as uchiha madara when he made that claim
     
  12. Mister Banned

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    How he gave them, we don't really know. There might've been an operation? Or it could be something else which may link to the the scar he has on each shoulder.
     
  13. Klue 輪廻

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    Pretty sure he said that out loud, to Konan and Deva Pain.
     
  14. Chibason Sofa King Fresh

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    Tobi once worked with Madara I believe. He was likely instructed to give Nagato Madara's eyes after he died.

    I suspect he did it at the time Nagato's parents were killed.
     
  15. LostSelf Forest Sage

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    Yeah, that's why i say Madara gave Nagato the eyes, not Tobi.

    Then i made a mistake, but there's a panel where he's talking to himself, i just don't remember wich one is.
     
  16. Alibaba Saluja Sindria Kingdom

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    Probably he transplanted the Rinnegan on Nagato when he was very young
     
  17. Thdyingbreed Rampaging Beast

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    Tobi and Madara have been working on this plan together it was even outright stated by Madara himself.

    X
     
  18. jNdee~ MangSlayer

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    I don't think tobi was telling the truth
     
  19. First Tsurugi M O T I V A T E D

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    I think Tobi was speaking as Madara in that scene, by which I mean he was speaking of things Madara had done and acting as though it was he who had done them because he was pretending to be Madara.
     
  20. AumaanAnubis Member

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    Most likely by transplant, a fuinjutsu might have been used to deny nagato access to madara's sharingan/ems side of things.

    Nagato's first activation of those eyes is too reminiscent of the cirumstances uchiha's are shown to experience when awakening the sharingan.
     
  21. T-Bag Blackbeard

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    ems are the abilities of the sharingan, nagato couldnt access them because they are abilities you learn before you get rinnegan, as a uchiha. nagato isnt a uchiha

    think of it like the pokemon games. you cant learn certain abilities if you evolve ur pokemon too early
     
  22. Suigetsu Crowned of Starlight

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    This, either that or he made some indirect crap like provoking the war or something.
     
  23. Crystaltiger Nuke-Nin

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    I think that Tobi is the Elder Son, who could live thanks to a jutsu like the one used by Orochimaru -> He uses bodies of other people to live on.
    Therefore he took Obito's body in the 3rd Ninja World War.
    In the same war (exactly the same time) Nagato got the Rinnegan.
    Therefore I think he wasn't able to hold it in a "weak" body like Obito's so he gave it to Nagato in order to get it back when he is strong enough in his new body.
    Maybe he even gave it to Nagato's ancestors when he lost to Hashirama Senju (Tobi needs a new body all 15-20 years, one of his old bodies was Madara, in that body he fought the Senju clan), because he was to weak back then.
     
  24. John Connor Lightning Tiger

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    the eyes were implanted in base form and then Tobi killed Nagato's parents. the Sharingans tendency to unlock powers during emotional states combined with Nagato's Uzumaki blood activated Madara's Rinnegan
     
  25. Grimmjowsensei True Hokage

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    Some medic nin or Tobi himself did the surgery and gave Nagato Madara's rinnegan.
     
  26. Marsala The Ice-Cream Man Cometh Advisor

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    If Itachi could stick Shisui's eye in a crow, I'm sure that Madara or Tobi could put Madara's eyes into a young Nagato.
     
  27. T-Bag Blackbeard

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    itachi plucked the eye of a crow out of its head, yet still obeys...

    god indeed
     
  28. Jeefus away fighting dragons

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    Tobi could have tracked down a descendant and than created a situation where, hopefully, the eyes could have emerged, or taught him how to use them.
     
  29. jNdee~ MangSlayer

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    Tobi just pulled that theory out of his ass
     
  30. Golden Circle .

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    What this guy said.

    KISS
     
  31. JPongo It's all about the Namikazes

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    Tobi gave Nagato the rinnegan during Christmas.

    Tobi is an eye doctor masquerading as a villain.

    LOL.
     
  32. Rios Active Member

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    Preeeeeetty sure he is better than Rin at this.
     
  33. Jeefus away fighting dragons

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    PNJFTW:ho

    that's how he rolls.......
     

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