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Golden Byakugan Really DOES Exist! (Manga Proves It)

Discussion in 'Konoha Library' started by Aeiou, Sep 4, 2011.

Is this evidence enough to prove that the Byakugan is still significant?

  1. Yes, Kishi foreshadows a lot through images

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  2. No, you're just spewing more bullshit

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  3. I want to believe but I'm not convinced

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  4. If I had a nickel for everytime I saw a thread like this...

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  1. Aeiou Pumping Lemma

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    I know what most of you are probably thinking "not this shit again", but what if I told you there were certain pages/panels within the manga that can further prove the existence and/or foreshadow of the "Golden Byakugan" (as a lot of people have dubbed it) being reality?

    I'm not going to give you any crackpot theories as to how GB is obtained or what one must do to achieve this, I'm simply speculating its existence, further proving that it's not far-fetched to say its real.

    First of all, let's shed (briefly) some light on the Hyuuga. Their byakugan is a pupiless, grey eye to which further activation results in a more distinctable pupil. Think of the byakugan as "the eye that wishes to possess a pupil". It attempts this, but never quite achieves this.

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    Another thing, evident in the Hyuuga (from what has been portrayed by the most common members, Neji/Hinata), they seem to familiarize themselves with the trigrams, most notably Eight Trigrams

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    But think of this in a different light; picture the yin-yang symbol as Hyuuga's trademark symbol, just as the Uchiha's is a fan.

    Uchiha's Symbol

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    Hyuuga's Symbol

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    Now, it has been said that the Sharingan has been derived from the Byakugan. I'll leave it at that for simplicity's sake.

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    It has also been said that the Uchiha were descendants from the elder brother of the Sage of the Six Paths

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    But were they the earliest descendants? No. It's been stated the oldest clan Konoha had to offer were the Hyuuga.

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    Alright, I know what you're all saying; "Ok, Aeion. We've seen this 600 billion times before. Where are you going with this?"

    I apologize for the repetitive spurting, but I had to clarify the above before I could proceed with my speculations.

    Now we're all aware of Madara's plan, trying to replicate the SOT6P and his dojutsu as much as possible for his Moon's Eye Plan, the most he revealed is that it'd look something like this;

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    We can see the mixes here, Rikudo Sennin's Rinnegan (rings), Uchiha's Sharingan (tomoe), almost like we're trying to make a superpower with the 3 Great Dojutsu, but alas, you ask, "Where is Byakugan evident in this?"

    Recall when I told you to to pickup the idea that Byakugan's main goal is to have a true pupil? Madara has yet to show us this but he's given us a glimpse of evidence through his explanation of the SOT6P's jutsu (middle panel)

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    Yes, you see it, the one thing Byakugan could never attain, a pupil. And what does that pupil represent? Hyuuga's "trademark symbol", yin-yang.

    This is not 100% proof, but I feel this is nothing more than a foreshadow that the Hyuuga clan is not, in fact, dead weight in this huge mess, and that they will play a big role in all this bullshit. Call it Golden Byakugan, call it Byakugan's Redemption, call it Kentucky Fried Chicken, whatever name you give it, you realize that Byakugan is getting a comeback, and that comeback shall be revealed soon enough!

    Thoughts? Ideas? Objections? Trolls? Let the flaming begin
     
  2. Majin Lu Dark Magician Girl

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    It is an interesting way to see that panel :O
     
  3. Aeiou Pumping Lemma

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    I usually try to use the hints Kishmoto gives us; "Look underneath the underneath". I always try to figure out how hints/foreshadows he leaves for us will tie into important factors in the near future, instead of trying to figure out how such things will work/come to be, which is totally up to the author :hurr
     
  4. Crimson Flam3s Rampage Sage

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    5 star thread:quite I always known that the byakugan will have a moment to shine. It will happen. haters gonna hate:zaru reps op it makes sence.
     
  5. Malv213 Crypt Fiend

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    This is a good catch, I really hope you're right.
     
  6. Andrew Jesus is the Savior

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    Not this thread again.
     
  7. Rannic Ice Cold

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    Interesting, I like
     
  8. drayergreg psychedelic Sage

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    I agree as well
     
  9. Aeiou Pumping Lemma

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    Give it a read first :awesome
     
  10. Saru slave to ambition Moderator

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    I have considered the Hyuuga's Eight Trigrams and Yin-Yang symbolism, but I would've never looked into the manga this extensively. Good eye.
     
  11. Madara Uchiha ◊ G O D ◊

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    Hmm i see where you are getting some of this. At least you had proof and its possible. I still don't buy it but hey it may come at us and surprise all of us.
     
  12. Aeiou Pumping Lemma

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    I'm glad we're getting a lot of open-minded people instead of downright haters :hurr
     
  13. Crimson Flam3s Rampage Sage

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  14. Furubodiburo My speech still prevails preach.

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    Excellent cognotive representation.

    I yearn for the prominent character however to be Neji.
     
  15. PureWIN Mr. Prince

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    Oh wow, good catch. I wouldn't be surprised if the Hyuuga descended from the Elder Son's bloodline. Perhaps the Hyuuga will become relevant again, but I highly doubt it.
     
  16. narutofan012345 New Member

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    The yin-yang symbol is something very popular in East-Asian countries. Therefore I think it is just a coincidence for us to see it at several pages in the manga. Nothing special.
     
  17. momma bravo Member

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    huge props.

    non-hyuuga fan here (probably even a hyuuga-hater).
     
  18. BrokenBonds Blinded by Instinct

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    I always thought the concept of the "Golden Byakugan" was simply a joke.
     
  19. Raging Bird 15 Strong, XVI

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    Good theory op, I also noticed that Yin/Yang symbol as the mark of the hyuuga a while back and when madara was talking about Izanagi. There might be a chance in where Hinata will be captured by Madara and used for his experiments, That would make the Hyuugas relevant again in the plot and it would certainly allow for a Naruto/Hinata. Not that I'm trying to ship anything with this post; just an observation.
     
  20. santanico eyepatch kun ❤

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    Good theory, no matter how far-fetched it is.
     
  21. Tengu Kiuuby-chan

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    I like it, i doubt we will see the GB, but it would be nice.
     
  22. Jane Biscuit Witch

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    It's called the Golden Byakugam and it's real you tards.
     
  23. Patrick Order Intensifies

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    RS is a Hyuuga. Neji will realize this and activate the Sharrinegan/Golden Byakugan/whatever hax eyeball you want to come up with and becomes the FV by one-panneling Madara.
     
  24. Synn Well-Known Member

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    I sure hope that the Hyuuga will be more relevant, like they used to be in Part 1. :(
     
  25. Punished Pathos S?tnos

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    Um...
    The yin/yang panel with the SOT6P wasn't relevant to this theory...
    Its only there to help explain the process of izanagi.
    Kishimoto put it there to look cool, The sage and the Juubi never had an eye with a yin/yang pupil.
     
  26. Blazing CobaltX Yuri Trainer on Fire

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    This only proves how contradicting Kishimoto is. :giogio
    It's almost impossible for the Hyuuga to be the oldest clan in Konoha history, while Konoha is created by the Senju and Uchiha.
     
  27. BlueSky Rena A Girl of the East (Asia)

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    Kishi can't handle such an epic win as Golden Byakugan (let alone give the Hyuuga clan a worthy panel time). He is just not that creative :(
     
  28. iSmile Member

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    Don't you think it is to late to see such thing???!!! Think about it... while naruto fighting the FV a background voice of neji "Golden Byakugan!!!!!!!!":argh and then solo's Sasuke and he smash the FV with naruto...

    I just think it's too late for that.
     
  29. Yagami1211 This title has been overriden by Trombe!

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    Enter : House of Hyuga !
     
  30. Hasan Well-Known Member

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    Interesting read, OP. I'm impressed how you spotted the yin-yang symbol in Sage's ritual (middle panel). Who knows Kakashi might be right about Uchiha being descendants of Hyuuga.:amuse
     
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  31. Necessary Evil Disciple of Thunder

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    Nice thread, good read, also nice observation skills.

    Generally though I highlly doubt that Kishimoto will give further gravity to develop the Hyūgas; judging from the fast pace of the manga always, although I would personally love to.
     
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  32. sabakunay Tobis follower

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    Very nice thread, this will have to mean something. It is known that kishimoto leaves hints in his covers and in some panels.
     
  33. PainHyuuga True Genius

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    i noticed RS holding amaterasu just like EMS sasukes Susano
     
  34. Kiss SS: It's canon bitch

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    Nice catch. :quite
     
  35. J★J♥ Vento Aureo

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    Maybe... Maybe Not...
    Anyway reps..
     
  36. Gabe Murim Grand Master

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    still dreaming about the hyuuga being useful or important
     
  37. Nidaime Mizukage King of Atlantis

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    was hoping I'd come into this thread and see people speculating what the GB's technique would be... so, i'll be the first:

    Golden Byakkugan Abilities:

    - Full 360 vision, no blind spot.
    - Chakra Levels rise instantly to 6 Gate levels
    - Gentle Fist & Eight Trigrams able to permanently close/seal chakra points

    Cons:
    - Golden Byakkugan must be activated through hand seals.
    - Those with the Hyugga Curse Seal cannot activate it.
     
  38. BXisAWOL S-Rank Fodder Nin

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    Good read. I agree.
     
  39. alchemy1234 Active Member

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    I'm surprised that a new member like yourself knows about ando and his theories. I've been lurking here since 2005, so i know all about it.
     
  40. AwesomeSmile GET TO THE CHOPPA!

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    I really hope the Byakugan does get some repect, but I don't see it happening
     
  41. SaVaGe609 Only Sai Fan

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    Ehhh. I hope so.

    It really depends on if Hizashi was released during Gedo Mazo's rampage or not.
     
  42. Namikaze Naruto Sennin

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    Good catch!

    I think it is plausible enough for that to happen, since Kishi has introduced three doujutsu as far as I remember, it won't make any sense if he just leave Hyuuga's behind, considering that we are still seeing Hyuuga's people on this manga on constant basis - I rather say that we are seeing more and more Hyuugas as the manga develop, eventough they are yet to show us their worth as Konoha's noble clan.

    We'll see, everything can still happens.
     
  43. Seraphiel Meem Magician

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    golden white eye? Never go full retard bro.
     
  44. Aeiou Pumping Lemma

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    But you'd be surprised as to how Kishimoto works, he can make the most innocent of pages/panels become the most significant part of an arc/chapter, he's done this many times before.

    A perfect example is how Kishimoto portrayed Itachi to be an evil and heartless killer, in th eeyes of Sasuke through this panel; (bottom right)

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    But then, look here, how Kishi twists our perceptions of people in such an easy and swift manner, the truth behind that picture;

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    Call it a recon, the fact of the matter is, Kishimoto is a master of deceiving his viewers, or deliberately giving us the wrong impression of things :LOS

    True, but remember, before Konoha's beginnings, the world was just a place of clans. Konoha's dirt and soil could have well been Hyuuga's settlement way before Madara/Hashirama came to an agreement. You must leave your mind open to possibilities :kaga

    Yes, as nice as this theory is, I'm afraid I see no time and effort to which this speculation could be included into the manga.. Everything has been rush-rush since this war :tomasulk

    I'll consider that a compliment, thank you :hurr
     
  45. Crimson Flam3s Rampage Sage

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    I think byakugan and sharingan both descended from the sage's son and thus thats why they are said to be related. maybe people in narutoverse have the misconception that sharingan comes from byakugan. Also now that I think about it...why does it have to be "golden" byakugan? IMO if the byakugan is shown to have a special stage or something it will be a black byakugan:zaru
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    I think it would be black or even a yin yang designor power etc because of the evidence:
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    most likely black byakugan.. if not then an upgrade or something:datass
     
  46. wibisana still newbie

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    I think those ying yang not really hyuga symbol just represent ying and yang of Hinata and Neji
     
  47. Angevelinka A curious seeker

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    Black byakugan would be awesome - both for looking even more freaky than eye veins (alien-like? Eye-holes?) and... well, glinting golden eyes would have to have something necessary changed in the white to look different and it's hard to differentiate within black-white manga where Gold Dust of 4th Kazekage was just as colorless and white as usual sand.

    Anyway... I want to believe that and I give you a thumb up for a good catch - I never noticed that even if I never lost hope in that Hyuuga will matter again SOMETIME... but I'm not convinced. Not because it's not a good theory, but because:
    a) Naruto is here
    b) Sasuke will join in very soon
    a+b= stealing 99% of paneltime
    stealing of paneltime = pace resolving only around rasen-sharingans.
    ...which means: no panels for anyone else, including Hyuugas.

    Of course, it would be cool to see Neji gain the new upgrade and go against Sasuke all of sudden as a match of spawn DNA mix vs true heritage of Konoha (not that Hinata wouldn't be cool but... she is a woman in Kishimoto's manga), but Neji is weak. We don't know much of his true great power pushed to his limits (472 trigrams? Kaiten ranging 10 kilometers? Chakra push of strength of 10 t?) but we know that Sasuke is a beast fed of author's spoon and that promises Neji being kicked in the face in three panels only to die.

    And to prove that Byakugan as a doujutsu is of similar power range Neji or any other Hyuuga would really have to go greater lengths than killing Zetsus and by that I mean soloing or at least heavily injuring a persona like Kabuto, Itachi or all kages at once because sharingan and rinnegan users can do it.

    Which is pretty unfair seeing how forgotten and undeveloped Hyuuga is to be demanded to jump that high out of sudden.
     
  48. Hexa probably Dendi Advisor

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    I'm sort of a fan of the idea that the Juubi's eye is a mix of the sharingan, byakugan, and rinnegan together. But obviously there's nothing visual to indicate that, unlike the sharingan and rinnegan.

    Otherwise, the yin/yang on the eye could be because the panel was talking about yin/yang manipulation. The yin/yang symbol is not exactly something exclusive to the Hyuuga clan. It's not even the Hyuuga clan symbol. On the other hand, the Hyuuga clan symbol does sort of resemble the "ball" in the hand of Sasuke's Susano'o, so maybe there's some connection there.
     
  49. αce Puahah.

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    I'm still leaning towards the Rikudou being a hyuuga, although it would royally fuck up Kishi's origins of the Hyuuga themselves.

    That, or the hyuuga are the Uzumaki of the Uchiha. Distant relatives with a dumbed down bloodline.


    Also the ying yang is probably just a representation of the ying yang chakra themse Kishi has been pushing. The entire idea of Rikudou was his mastery of said abilities and how he used them with Izanagi. I think people are looking too far into this.
     
  50. Aeiou Pumping Lemma

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    That actually makes a lot of sense and fits in with this perfectly. Normal Byakugan is white/grey, while the "advanced" form would be the other colour of their clan's symbol; black. Not too bad an idea :datass

    And with that, +reps back to you, good comrade :LOS

    You've basically summed up all the major realities of this theory thoroughly and pretty well, I might add. It's hard for this speculation to become true reality due to Sasuke/Naruto stealing all screentime, and the Hyuuga filling in such a gap of strength due to their inactive timeline.

    But hey, let's not lost hope. Shisui wtfpwned the storyline with all his random powerups, who's to say it can't happen to the Hyuuga? Or maybe a flashback/ little story about a so-called legendary Hyuuga from the past might come into play :LOS
     

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