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General Saint Seiya Discussion Thread: Ultimate Galaxian Quality

Discussion in 'Meta-Battledome' started by ogreigniz, May 24, 2016.

  1. Lurker999 New Member

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    This thread is a gold mine.
     
  2. Fang Titan

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    You switched from "casual attack" to him using his strongest technique and falsely equated Bronze Saints wearing Gold Cloths as being the same as Gold Saints themselves, you are in no position to talk about anyone "detracting" here.

    And you said they were Gold Saints, which they aren't. And he was still using his strongest technique, Titans were doing it with casual physical attacks. As for Hyouga, he achieved absolute zero, while Camus was merely "very close" to it. Hyouga was going to die if not for Shun showing up to save him after the fight. Hyouga only "temporarily" surpassed Camus, which was the actual thematic of that fight if you knew what you were talking about.

    Nope, Camus himself admitted Hyouga surpassed him by reaching absolute zero for the brief moment that Hyouga managed to tap more into the 7th Sense then Camus was sitting at. Most of the fight he was getting wrecked and there's nothing supporting any of the main Bronze Saints are above the average Gold Saints outside of brief moments of miracle tapping.

    So what? The Gold Saints all achieved and mastered the 7th Sense barring Aiolia as barely above toddler level; Shura, Shaka, Mu, Deathmask, and so on were stated to be Gold Saints and attained their Gold Cloths by the time they were 6 to 9 years old. And the Titans on top of everything were nerfed to hell and back. By your logic, its not impressive and bullshit the Bronzes beat them despite only receiving their Cloths as teenagers and having nothing but a literal DEM going for them with the "miracles" thanks to the 7th Sense granting them.

    Wrong.

    That's because of Kuramada's bullshit retcons. Originally Dohko and Shion were Gold Saints from the get go in the original manga, in ND he switched things up saying they were now former Bronze Saints who were promoted to Gold Saints when the original manga states everyone was born into their position in Athena's army. Oh yeah and the change from 1986 to 1990 timeline wise.

    Also Mu has Starlight Extinction, a sealed technique which he developed and Shion never has that power or ability. Though peak Shion absolutely shits on Mu at his best, I'll agree.

    Fuck no. Alderbaran held up all of humanity's sins when Themis faced off with him when the Titans attacked the Sanctuary by putting the whole of human kind on her scales of justice. Are you going to claim Suikyo > Themis now too? I don't think so.

    You said statements don't mean shit but then you go around and be a hypocrite and use them anyways? Ikki also said Kanon can't compare to Saga, and that since he expierenced the powers of Gemini Saints before they would have no effect on him. He said the same shit again before ND when fighting Kanon claiming his powers wouldn't work against him since he fought Saga and he was proven wrong all those times.

    >Kanon had trouble with the Judges.

    You are a huge liar now. Kanon wrecked Rhadamanthys the second time they fought and he had to be saved by Aiacos and Minos jumping Kanon when Kanon was wrecking him in that fight. Kanon even without his Gemini Cloth bodied and destroyed Rhadamanthys without using the Gemini Cloth because Kuramada for some reason decided despite Kanon being more powerful then Rhadamanthys need to kill himself off.

    Kanon is above any of the Judges.

    Saying Kanon struggled is absolute dogshit.

    Its not hard to be above the Gold Saint tied for second weakest with Aphrodite. Though again your memory is shit and you are clearly biased. Deathmask threw Shiryuu down the pit of hell the first time and curbstomped him twice, it was only because Athena's Cosmos reviving Shiryuu in their final fight and Deathmask's Gold Cloth abandoning him that Shiryuu managed to beat him. But yes Deathtoll is more powerful then Deathmask.

    No.

    No. Shaka was dead and matching Shijima and before you claim again, Shaka had no magical power ups when facing Shijima and was actually further weakened by the fact that trespassing outside of his own time to protect Shun.

    Nope.

    Camus can use AZ no issue once he was revived as a Specter by Hades, so not buying that so far.

    Barely at best. Let's take your bullshit angle and spin some hype: Aphrodite is called the greatest and most dangerous Gold Saint by Pope Saga, and he was wrecking the Bronzes until Shun barely beats him since the Andromeda Cloth is the most OP shit.

    Saga and Aiolia faced off directly and was never using his Gold Cloth, Saga was also tanking Shura's strongest attacks with the palm of his hand. Hardly what you claim.

    Never said Another Dimension busts universes, my repeatedly strawmaning friend, and erasing a timeline isn't destroying a universe.

    They chronologically exist in-universe before it, so no, try again friend, that's not going to fly here with us.

    Post it.

    Timelines != Universes

    And GE is well into multi-galaxy level, and the fact it damaged and effected Athena's Aegis is the part you kept ignoring.
     
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    The statement about Cain would mean that he is stronger than Hades
    yeah, i call bullshit.
     
  4. Qinglong Martyrs are the first to Die

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    Aldabaran got ambushed which is like a big reason he dies
     
  5. ebonyLogic Lord

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    We logically assume No Gods with that statement.
     
  6. MatthewSchroeder Well-Known Member

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    Dear Fang.

    No matter how many times you say a lie, it won't magically turn into the truth.
     
  7. Fang Titan

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    Lie? You cited SF Latif as biased, a poster whose been banned for making dupe accounts to sock puppet his opinions by UD and lying in threads before over Saint Seiya. You're calling me a liar for calling out tivanenk whose making things up about various events in G and the original manga and switching the goal posts as it suits him when you two get called out for it?

    Try again, mate.
     
  8. Fang Titan

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    No, we don't. Character fallible statements are distrusted because they are usually blanket statements as a rule of thumb, so no we wouldn't go by that angle.
     
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    A timeline is a world as described by Shura itself. World = universe. You are really pulling straws here.

    Also, Aiolos >> Sigurd who tanked the same blow which broke Hades surplice and was still conscious.

    Except Ikki never faced Hades on his own. He specifically says "I have fought". So gods are out of the equation.
     
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    And yet you abuse them like a motherfucker when it comes to Saga. Shame on you. You're even willing to claim that Aiolos isn't destroying universes when he himself said that he was destroying worlds.
     
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    Yeah, but in the end it's just assumption
    the statement still doesn't make sense
     
  12. Fang Titan

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    No it isn't.
     
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    I'm not the one whose abusing them like you are with Aiolos, so that's some pretty pathetic pot to kettle bullshit.
     
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    This thread is basically, one side being triggered by anyone that does that agree with saga being the strongest using manga statements they inflate to high hell and rewording there own arguments over and over again.

    This is funny but takes away time from really discussing this series and proper tier placement..
     
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    >being triggered

    That's not even what's happening.
     
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    So what the fuck does world even mean to you?
     
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    Alternate timelines are not separate universes.
     
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    lel

    Damaged by a non-God Cloth, not even Gold Cloth wearing Seiya
     
  20. MatthewSchroeder Well-Known Member

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    And you're not a wanker.
     
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    I know I'm not, just like you totally are not a suspicious poster with that join date or anything.
     
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    Most desperate move I have seen from you so far. Parallel timelines are literally alternate universes where events just happen differently.
     
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    Also just checked with the French and official Viz versions along with the RAWs, Thanatos never names Terrible Providence by name except once against Ikki in the manga. Every single time he uses it against Seiya, Ikki, and the Bronzes he does the exact same motions, gestures, and everything artistically.

    So casual destruction of the Gold Cloths is bullshit.
     
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    It's cute that you use the tiny amount of blood 8th Sense Seiya drew from Thanatos as an argument, when 13 year old Aiolia nearly killed a 2-sealed Titan with his Photon Burst.
     
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    The only desperation is your posts. We have never ACCEPTED alternate timelines as separate universes in the OBD. Not even with Marvel or DC's cosmic antics. And this is coming from you, the guy caught lying about shit with Kanon vs the Judges, so I'd simmer down if I were you.
     
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    Its cute that you are just proving more and more you have no idea what you are talking about. Coeus was already revived with a flawed body and Photon Burst was said to be similar power wise to Galaxian Explosion, on top of that, it gets further boosted by the fact Aiolia uses lightning for his powers just like Zeus, which counters all forms of immortality and divine resistance of the Gods be they Olympian or Titan.

    Funnier is still is Ikki putting a bruise on Thanatos face and knocking his helmet off too but I guess that bothering Thanatos was for nothing right?
     
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    They are full fledged universes as described by the narrator, Aiolos, and Shura. So stop bullcrapping.
     
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    Alternate timelines are alternate realities but they are not full fledged universes, stop bullshitting.
     
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    Also, you're still ignoring, and I will repeat for the 3rd time. Aiolos >> Sigurd who tanked a Pegasus Ryu Sei ken from a God Cloth Seiya who was burning his Cosmo to the max.
     
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    Parallel timelines are full fledged universes. What evidence do you have that they are smaller than the universe that Assassin happens in?
     

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