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General Saint Seiya Discussion Thread: Ultimate Galaxian Quality

Discussion in 'Meta-Battledome' started by ogreigniz, May 24, 2016.

  1. ogreigniz Banned

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    This thread will be about an overall discussion of feats and story related material about the quality series known as Saint Seiya.

    First of all, this is a guide about the various Saint Seiya series that have been released all these years:

    Manga: (these are the canon series)

    - Episode G (Completed)

    - Episode G - Assassin (Ongoing) [there are also the ''future'' versions of the Bronze Saints and after all the references of the various connected/parallel worlds etc, it might give it the potential to become another possible sequel of the Saint Seiya verse as well, but only time will tell, though]

    - Saint Seiya (Completed) [also, Gigantomachia is a 2 volumes novel which takes place between the Poseidon Arc and Hades Arc]

    - Saint Seiya - Next Dimension (Ongoing)



    Anime:

    - Saint Seiya Anime (Completed)

    - Saint Seiya OVA series (Completed)

    - Saint Seiya Omega series (Completed) [it's pretty much a sequel to the Saint Seiya anime/OVA continuity]



    Other:

    - Saint Seiya - The Lost Canvas Gaiden (Completed) [it's the prequel of TLC which has also some stories that take place after TLC]

    - Saint Seiya - The Lost Canvas (Completed) [generally, we all knew that TLC was ''non canon'', but after many discussions, we finally agreed that the series is pretty much an alternate timeline/dimension, which makes the original manga events canon to TLC while TLC despite having several canon references to the original series, it isn't ''officially'' part of the Saint Seiya canon]

    (it sounds kinda confusing, but this is how things are :asprosmaybe)

    - Saint Seiya: Soul of Gold (Completed) [it's a spin off/side story anime series about the Gold Saints]

    - Saint Seiya: Saintia Sho (Ongoing) [Just read it for Saga : sagasmirk)
     
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    With everything i ever heard about it on this site.

    Is it the best Shonen Jump series of all time ever? :hm
     
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    Now, let's talk about the power levels/feats of the series:

    After re reading again several chapters from TLC and Episode G, i noticed this:

    I was checking some OBD SS character profiles and i noticed that many profiles (especially the original Gold Saints and the Titans) are fucking outdated, which made me thinking that i have to update them, again, when i got time :asprosryoma [unless, someone wants to also help, in the future :kanonmaybe)

    Some quick examples:

    Many Titans profiles are having multi star level+ stats in their sealed forms while they are actually solar system level+/at least solar system level+

    The reason?

    First of all, the original Gold Saints and TLC Gold Saints can be finally scaled (yeah, we can finally scale them) but what makes it even funnier is that in Episode G/Episode G - Assassin/Saint Seiya, most of the original Gold Saints have their own feats which are at least as powerful [actually, stronger if you notice carefully] and fast (at least in speed, TLC Gold Saints should be fucking happy to having finally MFTL+ speeds :shuraskully), and overall the Titans are top tier levels in the SS verse.

    Now another example, let's talk about Shura, in Shura's profile it says this:

    ''Solar system level+ (should be at least around El Cid's level''

    More like Shura is solar system level+ to a much greater degree than El Cid


    :skully


    Shura during his first battle against Kreios:


    > Shura managed to survive Aster Choreia and Aster Kyklos


    > After having his Excalibur shattered to pieces by Aster Kyklos, Shura despite being very damaged, he managed to stop Kreios Aster Blade with his broken arm and later Shura while using Excaliburn he was able to cut Aster Blade, also Kreios was impressed by Shura's potential

    > In their second battle, Shura managed to survive and overcome the stronger/more impressive attacks of Kreios, so yeah, the original Gold Saints are fucking powerful as well


    :shurabury


    To summarize:

    All original Gold Saints and TLC Gold Saints are at solar system level+ (minimum) and MFTL+, with the stronger upper high/top tiers Gold Saints reaching galaxy level+/at least multi galaxy level+ etc

    Also, most of the Omega Gold Saints are at those levels as well
     
  4. ogreigniz Banned

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    Blocky

    Saint Seiya is pretty much one of the most classic series and is also one of the best shonen series, easily
     
  5. NightmareCinema Okami

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    Alright, Igniz ( :maybe)

    List all the updates needed and I'll get to them after I finish work for the day.
     
  6. ogreigniz Banned

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    I meant when i got time, i will edit/update the Saint Seiya profiles, not right now




    :hestonpls
     
  7. NightmareCinema Okami

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    I got time later, though, so list them either way and I'll do 'em.

    Then you can check them out after and make any additional changes as you see fit.

    Makes things go by faster.
     
  8. Claudio Swiss Well-Known Member

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    I got a few questions I'm pretty new to this series.
    1.what feat at least put ss characters at star/solar system+ level not trying to downplay here?
    2.What are some are speed feats besides shura,the bronze saints crossing galaxies,thanatos?
     
  9. iwandesu Well-Known Member

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    how is this aster wathever quantifiable,tho ?
    i mean yeah shura is obviously>el cid if thats was your point
    but just wondering why you said "higher SS level than shura)
     
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    I will give you a hint:

    I am lazy at the moment


    :asprospls
     
  11. NightmareCinema Okami

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    GALAXIAN Laziness, even. :maybe

    :shuraskully
     
  12. iwandesu Well-Known Member

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    1.Aspros creates a blackhole, tenma annhilates alone doopel moon, Libra weapons are stated to burst stars in literally all of its apparitions,mu casually wipes a dimension full of stars etc
    2.why would they need more ? but there is also the gold clothes crossing the galaxies i guess
     
  13. Blocky Tongs Man

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    got one question, what is the most powerful saint seiya character?
     
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    I said


    Shura is solar system level+ to a greater degree than El Cid because Shura has showed better feats than El Cid, not to mention that Kreios >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lol Oneiros



    :skully
     
  15. GiveRobert20dollars Shinjuku's Mastermind

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  16. iwandesu Well-Known Member

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    for better feats we have ophiucus saint disrupting all the celestial bodies in the galaxy, possibly the universe
    galaxian explosion multiple statements of galaxy busting
    shaka having a universe creator tecnique
    shijima having a universe busting
    and their clash bringing born and death to endless of universes
     
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  17. iwandesu Well-Known Member

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    yeah i agree with you lol
    just checking
     
  18. Blocky Tongs Man

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    now i know better
     
  19. ogreigniz Banned

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    You went on another subject now :skully


    The comparison was between Shura and El Cid, with Shura being superior for the reasons i said


    And i know all these feats you said, as well


    Edit: I just saw your post where you said that you agree with me, ok
     
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    then if you go a tad higher you have AE which is a mini big bang and ZE which is even stronger than that
    you have hades owning 2 dimensions bigger than the observable universe
    you have cronos messing with multiple timelines at the same time
    you have appolo completely wiping one timeline with a wave of hands
    and so on
     
  21. iwandesu Well-Known Member

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    im citing the feats because the newbie asked them yeah
     
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    Wait, if Shijima and Shaka are capable of making/destroying universes, and Saga is above them...

    Why aren't these three considered to be universe level again?
     
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    The Saint Seiya verse is so fucking powerful and i believe that if we read more translations from Episode G and TLC Gaiden, we are gonna see more impressive feats, easily


    I have read almost all the raw chapters and i couldn't understand anything :defterostears
     
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    I have only read summaries about most of the raw chapters :defterostears
     
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    universe level gold saints are possible? :maybe
     
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  26. NightmareCinema Okami

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    We really need more Saint Seiya English translators...
     
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    Wait

    Are you saying about the battle in Next Dimension between Shijima's Ungyo and Shaka's Agyo?

    I agree, that this battle had some likely universe level feats
     
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    Make DB Saint Seiya's whipping boy again? :hestonpls :bookerskully :skully : sagasmirk
     
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    I wonder why there isn't that much translation for it tho there's series out there that are shit gets translated daily.
     
  30. GiveRobert20dollars Shinjuku's Mastermind

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    The gaidens for LC give the Geminis in particular some broken as fuck abilities

    Miniaturized black holes a la granzon

    Deuteros being able to phase his body out of dimensions in order to absorb/avoid attacks
    Aspros literallly ripping out a hugeass chunk of sanctuary and BFR'ing it with AD

    Asmita's Evil counterpart Atavaka who is prob one of the most broken if not THE most broken specter
    is the highlight

    The Cancer saints got a nice feat for sekishiki kongou ha too. since Manigoldo was able to convert a mansion made entirely of dead souls into a hugeass bomb to fight one of the dark saints who was a pupil of Sage and his brother. Said mansion was easily made up of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of souls.
     
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    I also saw the newest LC Gaiden volume in a Japanese bookstore a few weeks back.

    Focuses on Sage and Hakurei during the previous Holy War.

    Should be good.
     
  32. NightmareCinema Okami

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    Yep, that's it. From what I've heard about it, that should be universe level.
     
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    Hey now db is getting in terms of dc :wow it just get fucked in the ass in the speed and hax department as usual:skully:bookerskully
     
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    >Omni-King is confirmed multiversal
    >Gets fucked by Galaxy level characters still
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    well it was something really specific tbh
    asmita can create a universe level as a barrier and shijima can destroy universes via his tecnique
    it depends wether GE can blow shaka angyo cronos style i guess :skully
     
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    Willing to bet "yes" on that. :maybe
     
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    Imagine if Asmita tries to watch the episode where Gohan gets rekt in DBS




















































































    oh wait, he can't watch, luckily for him :asmitapls
     
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    So have another update, likely universe level for the likes of Saga, Shaka and Shijima


    : sagapls
     
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    Universe levels only for the likes of Saint Seiya



    : sagapls
     
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    SS Zeus vs Omni-King (DBS)


    Who wins? :maybe
     
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    So much for Dragon Ball outgunning the Base Goldies in raw firepower.

    Now the Goldies turned the tables around again.

    Saint Seiya just won't let DB catch a break. :skully
     
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    Guilty Gear at this point will catch up with DB too, soon :solpls
     
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    Saga bursts in and uses his god killing fists to smash the Omni-Kings face in. : sagasmirk : sagapls
     
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    DB had some great upgrades but still, it isn't the strongest anime/manga/manhwa/manhua verse out there



    : asprospls
     
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    Universal Sol and Slayer pls.

    It will be fun to see the DB fanboys cry. :skully
     
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    Btw anyone know a good place to start reading the original manga? It's time I gave this quality series a read. : saganod
     
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    Who knows. Maybe we'll find out in either Revelator or GG4. :slayerskully
     
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