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Full Episode Animation Archive and Discussion

Discussion in 'Konoha TV' started by Catterix, Nov 4, 2007.

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    As you’ve no doubt noticed, the animation and art quality of Naruto Shippuuden is very inconsistent, often varying from extremely good, to absolutely terrible. :amazed

    The key reason for this is that Naruto Shippuuden is a long-running anime series. Unlike 6, 13, 26, 52, etc. episode series, long-running serials do not have a set budget. This means they often have to refrain from using great animation because they don’t know how much more money they have to spend. :sweatdrop Also, production is very rushed, as they don’t get a chance to take a break, whereas set-episode series can take as long as they want pre-production to design their anime.

    To cope with the strain of this, all anime (long or short) use a variety of staff to help create the series. In Naruto Shippuuden, the most influential to the quality of the animation is the animation director. The animation director’s (AD) role is to supervise the animation process of their episode. In Naruto, we generally have 8 ADs working at one time, each having their own episode. They direct each animator how to animate their scene (unlike in US cartoons where there’s 1 animator per character, Japanese animators animate and entire scene all by themselves. They each get around 1-3 minutes to animate), and each AD has a particular style. They also draw the first and last frame of each shot, and tell the animator how to move from the first frame, to the last frame. :edu

    Now, when Naruto Shippuuden began, it was very low budget. And because of this, a lot of ADs were hired with very, very different styles of drawings. And this is what makes Shippuuden especially inconsistent. :( However, over time, the quality has generally increased. :nod

    What also makes Shippuuden especially special is that each Animation Director generally works with the same team of animators and storyboarders, making them much more like a Team. For this, we have designed a Team system of the Animation Directors and their respective co-workers. Here, the Team name takes precedence, so if an AD changes, but everyone else stays on, the Team’s name remains intact, but just with a new AD. The same goes for animators (who may leap from team to team) and storyboarders.

    Here is a graph showing you the most important Teams that we’ve numbered, showing you the different styles with which the ADs draw Naruto’s face, demonstrating how varied this is, but also to help you recognise their own indivuality. Look out for things such as the eye and nose design. The depth of the chin versus the wideness of the cheeks. And, of course, the consistency of the Headband’s design :p

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    Now, that isn’t all of them. But those are the most prominent Animation Directors and Storyboarders to work on those teams. As you’ll have noticed, whereas an Animation Director may leave, Storyboarders tend to leap from Team to Team. :wink Usually depending on the needs of that episode (ie. Is it a dramatic one that needs lots of interesting poses?)

    As you saw, the styles differ immensely, some are fantastic (1, 7, 11) and some are… um… (10, 12) However, before anyone cries about how Shippuuden’s so much worse than Part 1. In Part 1 Naruto, this was about the standard of their teams too. It’s just that the main flaw of Shippuuden is that it’s especially rushed production (It didn’t get the chance to set itself up pre-production like Part 1 did, but instead had to rush into production :notrust) means that there isn’t a very good Team rota. So, for a long time, they stuck every Team doing 1 episode every 8 episodes, meaning that often good teams did boring episodes and bad teams did fighting episodes. However, that’s beginning to change now.
     
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    Full Episode Animation Archive Part 2.

    Oh, and to make it easier to remember (And what’s going to be in my sig) here’s the list of each episode and the Art Directors who worked on them with my personal rating of that episode’s outcome.

    Episodes:
    1 - Yasuhiko Kanezuka - My Rating: 9.5/10
    2 - Kim Dae-Hoon - My Rating: 4/10
    3 - Zenjirou Ukulele - My Rating: 7/10
    4 - Eum Ik-Hyum - My Rating: 5/10
    5 – Gorou - My Rating: 7/10
    6 - Shin’ichi Suzuki - My Rating: 2/10
    7 - Kumiko Horikoshi & Takenori Tsukuma - My Rating: 8/10
    8 - Minoru Morita - My Rating: 5/10
    9 - Yasuhiko Kanezuka - My Rating: 9/10
    10 - Natsuko Suzuki & Koji Kataoka - My Rating: 6/10
    11 - Zenjirou Ukulele & Akihiro Tsuda - My Rating: 8/10
    12 - Eum Ik-Hyum - My Rating: 7/10
    13 – Gorou - My Rating: 7.5/10
    14 - Ryousuke Yasushi - My Rating: 8/10
    15 - Kumiko Horikoshi & Takenori Tsukuma - My Rating: 8/10
    16 - Minoru Morita - My Rating: 5/10
    17 - Yasuhiko Kanezuka - My Rating: 9.5/10
    18 - Natsuko Suzuki & Hisao Muramatsu - My Rating: 7/10
    19 - Zenjirou Ukulele - My Rating: 8.5/10
    20 - Eum Ik-Hyum - My Rating: 7/10
    21 – Gorou - My Rating: 8/10
    22 - Ryousuke Yasushi & Fukui Myung-bak - My Rating: 7/10
    23 - Takenori Tsukuma - My Rating: 8.5/10
    24 - Minoru Morita - My Rating: 2/10
    25 - Yasuhiko Kanezuka - My Rating: 10/10
    26 – Gorou - My Rating: 10/10
    27 - Yang.Kwang-Seok & Tsutomu Murakami - My Rating: 4/10
    28 - Eum Ik-Hyum - My Rating: 4/10
    29 - Zenjirou Ukulele & Takenori Tsukuma - My Rating: 9/10
    30 - Akihiro Fukui - My Rating: 6/10
    31 - Kumiko Horikoshi - My Rating: 9.5/10
    32 - Minoru Morita - My Rating: 6/10
    33 - Yasuhiko Kanezuka - My Rating: 9.8/ 10
    34 - Yang.Kwang-Seok - My Rating: 5.5/10
    35 - Masahiko Murata & Seiko Asai - My Rating: 10/10
    36 - Eum Ik-Hyum - My Rating: 7/10
    37 - Gorou - My Rating: 8/10
    38 - Akihiro Fukui - My Rating: 5/10
    39 - Kumiko Horikoshi - My Rating: 9/10
    40 - Eiichi Tokura - My Rating: 6/10
    41 - Yasuhiko Kanezuka & Takenori Tsukuma - My Rating: 9/10
    42 - Masahiko Murata & Seiko Asai - My Rating: 9.5/10
    43 - Yang.Kwang-Seok - My Rating: 7/10
    44 - Eum Ik-Hyum - My Rating: 7/10
    45 - Yumenosuke Tokuda - My Rating: 8.5/10
    46 - Akihiro Fukui - My Rating: 6/10
    47 - Zenjirou Ukulele & 木 下ゆうき - My Rating: 8.5/10
    48 - Eiichi Tokura - My Rating: 5/10
    49 - Kumiko Horikoshi - My Rating: 9.5/10
    50 - Yang.Kwang-Seok - My Rating: 8/10
    51 - Takenori Tsukuma - My Rating: 9/10
    52 - Eum Ik-Hyum - My Rating: 8/10
    53 - Yumenosuke Tokuda - My Rating: 8.5/10
    54 - Akihiro Fukui - My Rating: 6/10
    55 - Masahiko Murata & Seiko Asai - My Rating: 9.8/10
    56 - Eiichi Tokura - My Rating: 6/10
    57 - Kumiko Horikoshi - My Rating: 9/10
    58 - Kim, Kang-Won & Yoo, Hyo-Sang - My Rating: 6.5/10
    59 - Yasuhiko Kanezuka - My Rating: - 9/10
    60 - Eum Ik-Hyum - My Rating: - 7.5/10
    61 - Yumenosuke Tokuda - My Rating: - 8/10
    62 - Akihiro Fukui - My Rating: - 6/10
    63 - Yuki Aoi & Takenori Tsukuma - My Rating: - 8/10
    64 - Eiichi Tokura - My Rating: - 5.5/10
    65 - Kumiko Horikoshi - My Rating: - 10/10
    66 - Yoo, Hyoo-Sang & Natsuko Suzuki - My Rating - 6/10
    67 - Yasuhiko Kanezuka - My Rating: - 9/10
    68 - Eum Ik-Hyum - My Rating: - 6/10
    69 - Takenori Tsukuma - My Rating: - 6.5/10
    70 - Akihiro Fukui - My Rating: - 7/10
    71 - Yumenosuke Tokuda - My Rating: - ?/10
    72 - Eiichi Tokura - My Rating: - ?/10
    73 - Kumiko Horikoshi - My Rating: - ?/10
    74 - Yoo, Hyoo-Sang & Akira Takeuchi - My Rating: - ?/10


    Hope this helps.
     
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  3. Geg Very Rude Super Moderator

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    Here's a few translation corrections:

    Team 7 is 堀越久美子 and 津熊健徳. The second name is Takenori Tsukuma.

    The other Team 10 animation director, 福井明博, is Akihiro Fukui.

    I can't be positive but I think Team 3's name is Zenjirou Ukulele/Ukurere.

    Team 5's given name is Gorou. Don't know his family name.
     
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    Ah, thanks smile-big

    I still want to call him Mr Bean though :( *pouts*

    Is this list Ok overall, though?

    *Updates*

    Edit: I will update tomorrow. Too tired right now.
     
  5. Geg Very Rude Super Moderator

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    One more thing you may not know, episode 11 had two animation directors. The usual Ukulele guy was joined by Akihiro Tsuda (津田昭宏), who was an animation director during Part 1.
     
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    Yeah, I had that one in already. Didnt know he was from Part 1, he was the only guy I didn't do a ground check on as he never appeared again in Shippuden. Thanks.
     
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    I don’t have time to read it now but in any case I will rep you because this is something that I thought it was needed.
     
  8. Iruka ♡♥~カカシxイルカ~♥♡

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    Thank you so very much!! The list is very helpful! Now I know which art director and team is the one I'm gonna look forward to most....>> Yasuhiko Kanatsuka <<...Also if this rotation keeps up, than that mean episode 33 will be by Yasuhiko Kanatsuka's team, which I'll be looking forward to very much. :dance
     
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    awesome i'll read this later
     
  10. Geg Very Rude Super Moderator

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    Few other translation fixes:

    Team 1: Yasuhiko Kanezuka
    Team 2: Dae-Hoon Kim (that's how it's credited on ANN anyway)
    Team 4: Ik Hyun Eum (same)
    Team 6: Shin'ichi Suzuki
    Team 7: 堀越久美子 -> Kumiko Horikoshi (just keeping the ordering consistant)
    Team 9: 片岡康治 -> Koji Kataoka

    Another thing about Team 9, all their episodes have different animation directors. Episodes 10 and 18 aren't exactly the same.

    10: Natsuko Suzuki & Koji Kataoka
    18: Natsuko Suzuki & Hisao Muramatsu
    27: Hisao Muramatsu, Kwang-Seok Yang, & Tsutomu Murakami
     
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    Thanks for the correction Geg. :grin
    So Yasuhiko Kanatsuka is actually Yasuhiko Kanezuka ne. =3
     
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    Nice, Catterix reps

    This a off topic but here is what coming up in the next fews months
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  13. Geg Very Rude Super Moderator

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    Trans of the schedule in that image then:

    Spoiler:
    December: Infiltrating Orochimaru's hideout
    January: Sasuke and Naruto meet
    February: Sasuke vs. Naruto climax
     
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    Ah.

    Spoiler:
    Looks like they might be going to have the climax be a 1 Year special or something.


    Hmm, so it's going to take 3 months to cover around 24 chapters. That's on average of nearly 2 chaps an ep.

    Pure speculation, but meh.
     
  15. Tyrannos Living a Life

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    Well, guess my prediction appeared to come true afterall. I had a feeling they were holding major events for the 1-year mark. Afterall Kishimoto does the same with manga with major events, which is usually to hype up readers for the Naruto Movies.

    BTW, I hope Taxman is going to sticky this thread and let you both update us when you get news.
     
  16. Even [Taka] Translator

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    this really deserves a sticky:grin Thanks for the info Catterix:grin
     
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    I got a headsache reading all that but now I feel knowledgeable...thanks Catterix must have taken alot of effort to do all that.
     
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    Made the updates. Thanks Geg, I tried looking through my Kanji translator book (not a very helpful one, but I hate it in Japanese) and the best I could find for Gorou's family name was Boyurin. Which I doubt is likely... Thanks a lot though smile-big

    Anyway, just so people know, the Art Director for episode 33 will indeed be Yasuhiko Kanezuka, so that's definitely something to look forward to. But also, 34 will be Hisao Muramatsu, he worked on bits of 27 and the second half of 18. Just watch Episode 18 after the advert break to see the quality we're talking about; it's pretty damn good. :nuts
     
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    quality is improving :spaz
     
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    And I think on the 10th of November, we'll find out the summaries/art directors for the next four or so episodes. Here's hoping!
     
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    Cool, I'll reference this.
     
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    that good news to hear Catterix
     
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    Wow, this is great! This deserves a sticky for sure. Now I know all the teams and names of the artists of the episodes. This is so helpful, thank you so much Catterix and Geg. :woo
     
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    For anyone who wants to know what these people have done before, here's links to their ANN profiles (I was thinking of making a thread with their ANN links anyway, but since catterix made this I'll post them here)

    Team 1
    X

    Team 2
    X

    Team 6
    X

    Team 7
    X (eps 7, 15, 31)
    X (eps 7, 15, 23, 29)

    Team 8
    X

    Team 9
    X (eps 10, 18)
    X (ep 10)
    X (eps 18, 27, 34)
    X (ep 27)

    Team 10
    X (eps 14, 22)
    X (eps 22, 30)
     
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    Cool, thanks Geg! smile-big

    This could be a good thread for you to provide you're info, given your wide knowledge of the animation for Shippuuden.
     
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    Just from pure speculation, can you try to predict the next 4 episodes animation directors?

    I hope Team 1/5/7 does the major fight in the next few episodes (at least from what I've heard, it's a big fight).

    Also, thanks a lot for this post, Catt. :D
     
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    Just based off the normal order

    35: Team 4 or 5
    36: Team 4 or 5
    37: Team 3 or variations of it
    38. Team 10 or variations of it
     
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    I realy hope that next time, when you will create similar thread about second season - all teams will have 10/10 next to their staff :nod
     
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    do the people who did the opening work on the actual episodes ?
     
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    Oooh. I don't think so. In the past there have been people like Norio Matsumoto or Hirofumi Suzuki who worked on some OPs and then worked on one or two episodes.

    But overall, I don't think the people who work on the OP animations work on general episodes.

    Will most likely need Geg to confirm this.
     
  32. Geg Very Rude Super Moderator

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    There could be like individual animators and stuff who do it, but as for animation direction in the opening, that's all done by Hirofumi Suzuki. He's only done animation direction for four anime episodes so far, but none in Shippuuden. It's definitely possible that they could have him be the animation director for an important action-heavy episode later on though, like they've done before.
     
  33. hgfdsahjkl hisoka from HxH is the best

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    what is the role of animation director?and does he take part in drawing the characters or he tells the animators how to draw because the characters look amazing when Hirofumi Suzuki is in charge

    and thanks for both of you catterix and Geg
     
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    It varies. Often an animation director quite literally, directs the animation; the fluidity, how long certain frames last, etc. For example, at the beginning of episode 25 of Shippuuden, when Sakura raises her head whilst her fist is raised, the head pauses for a second before rearing up suddenly. That was the Animation Director's decision.

    The Art Director is the one in charge of controlling how each character is to look in a scene. They often draw an example frame for each shot/scene depending on the content of the scene. It is also common for them to go over many animator's frame and redraw them to make it work.

    They do far more but that's kind of the jist of it.
     
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    That's the animation director's job as as well apparently. It doesn't make any sense for the art director to do that since there's only one for the whole series and we still have episodes like Team 8 with the character designs all wrong. Taken from Wikipedia:

    That said, I'm not really sure what the art director does.
     
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    254(34)話 阿野栄太郎・にいどめしんや・村松尚雄
    255(35)話 むらた雅彦・むらた雅彦・むらた雅彦/朝井聖子
    256(36)話 福田きよむ・福田きよむ・Eum Ik-Hyun
    257(37)話 濁川敦・濁川敦・拙者五郎
    258(38)話 高橋滋春・十文字景・福井昭博

    Dunno what teams. From 2h
     
  37. Catterix is a super awesome

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    Well episode 36, I can tell off the bat is being done by Team 4, who did eps 4, 12, 20 and 28. I'll check in a mo for the others if Geg doesn't do it first.

    Episode 37 is being done by Team Five. Whether this is the animators from episode 21 or 26... we don't know. But its most likely the usual guys.
     
  38. Geg Very Rude Super Moderator

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    Ah, thanks.

    34: Team 9 (Hisao Muramatsu)
    35: Oh shi- Part 1 animators!
    36: Team 4
    37: Team 5
    38. Team 10 (Akihiro Fukui)

    Oh wow, 35's animation directors are a blast from the past. The director, storyboardist, and co-animation director worked on Naruto at the very beginning. This is the first time he/she is credited as an animation director I think. The other animation director is probably my favorite from Part 1 not counting the special ones. 129, 139, 146, and 157, and 202 were done by her. The first name hasn't worked on Naruto since 157, and the second one since 202. I seriously hope this is true and hope they're staying for good.
     
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    Haha! :nuts That's awesome!! smile-big :dance

    Looks like Shippuuden's quality is definitely on the increase!
     
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    So, Geg... that means previous naruto staff members are coming back? D: and are working on all 34, 35 and 38? Let's hope they stay for good then!
     
  41. Chee Haters Gonna Hate

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    Part 1 animators are back!? This is so gonna rock! :awesome
     
  42. Hatifnatten Banned

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    To me, it's almost sounds like they had no money at all when they started shippuden, and only now - after 32 episodes, they finally obtained some budget...
     
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    Yea, I agree.

    After having all this filler, you'd think they'd reduce the budget to save up to produce Shippuuden. Maybe the movie took all that money? :D:
     
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    I doubt - to begin with, movie is done realy bad... there is some Norio Matsumotish animation... and that's about all.
    And it's teh movie - you need atleast year or more to create it... so they started when fillers only begun.
     
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    As far as I can tell... Those Part 1 animators are only working on episode 35. Eps 34, 36, 37, and 38 are all the work of some regular teams for Shippuuden.

    And even though the movie did not as well as hoped, it still doubled back the money spent, creating a great influx of profit. And not to mention all the videos games and toys that have been selling extremely well in Japan, over the last 32 episodes, Pierrot have definitely been building up their budget.
     
  46. Hatifnatten Banned

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    Where the hell did they put all those money they obtained through Naruto since 2001... all spent on merchandises o_O
     
  47. Vino

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    Oh sh-!

    I hope those animators stay for good :amazed
     
  48. Catterix is a super awesome

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    They spent it on producing Filler episodes that were more cost effective than wanted. And just, over time, they've lost money. It happens, especially when you have 2 years of very little inflow of cash.

    Besides, it's obvious somethings happened backstage at Pierrot that we don't know about it. Every single one of their shows is now lower quality than a few years ago, even Blue Dragon that was a 52 ep series was lagging in the same quality of animation as Pierrot shows of the early 2000s.

    Things happen.
     
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    They must have had realy big faith in fillers... I always though that they were, like ashamed... %) Though by some reason, even if you're watching well made filler, done by great animators - but with stupid plot, you can't help thinking that it's a cheap slice...)
     
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    Only shit, that?s the very best animators of part one. I remember I always said episode 129 was one of the best episodes ever in terms of animation and art; in fact not even team1 is that good. I even pointed episode 129 around here to show how shippuden should have been and now we will have that quality, I?m surprised. Its just a shame the episode they will make will not have any action or a fight, but since studio pierrot is getting better in their decision on which team should make which episode I believe we will have Norio?s type of animation for the big fight that is approaching.
     
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