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Edo Tensei's real reason!

Discussion in 'Konoha Library' started by Sarry, Feb 27, 2013.

  1. Sarry The guy sniping you out!

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    Going from what we had on this page:
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    Edo Tensei was Tobirama's solution to ending Child-soldiers. I'd say most likely that they were running out of manpower, and just using child soldiers was not a viable solution.


    So Tobirama had to revive dead Senju....

    I'd say, Tobirama's a Machiavellian bastard. I like it :amuse.
     
  2. Gabe Murim Grand Master

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    or he just wanted to see his dead family again
     
  3. Magician Member

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    That's a possibility :hmm
     
  4. navy Active Member

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    Or he wanted to kill Uchiha...
     
  5. Sarry The guy sniping you out!

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    Maybe...but that would pull another Sasori, and that didn't end well:oh
     
  6. Golden Circle .

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    His motives still doesn't make it right.

    Robbing the dead == not a good idea.
     
  7. Marsala The Ice-Cream Man Cometh Advisor

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    It's such a powerful jutsu that it doesn't need a justification like that.
     
  8. Sarry The guy sniping you out!

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    well perhaps that jutsu was created out of desperation, and not a weak reason.
    I mean if the clans are willing to send children to war, things are looking grim. Add to that, a bad life expectancy, and reviving the dead is "needed" for survival.

    In essence, 'drastic measures for a drastic situation can apply in this case. You're right, it doesn't make it right. but this doesn't stop it from being needed.
     
  9. tari101190 Active Member

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    Pretty sure he just wanted emotionless, immortal soldiers he could control. Literal zombies.
     
  10. Edo Madara Kamui Dimension

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    Look at that panel, Kid Tobirama is gangsta :datass
     
  11. iJutsu Active Member

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    Desperate times calls for desperate measures. If you're friends are dead and your stranded in an ice mountain, you will eat them to survive.
     
  12. Grimmjowsensei True Hokage

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    Yeah, and he sacrificed other kids to bring the dead kids :awesome

    There is no justification to Edo tensei, since it needs living people as sacrifices.
     
  13. Qwills Member

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    If you're going to kill your enemy anyways then use then as ammunition for your zombie jutsu.
     
  14. Yuna The Legendary Anti-Sakuratard

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    Or, you know, captured enemy soldiers.

    So... you'd rather just kill those captured enemy combatants than use their deaths for something useful? In our day and age, it seems barbaric, but in an age where the life expectancy was 30, even for civilians because of the constant warring and children were dying because they were forced into becoming soldiers, sparing the lives of your comrades by using captured enemy combatants as human sacrifices might not seem that bad.
     
  15. PikaCheeka wants to believe

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    I think we all figured he made it out of desperation and not boredom. It doesn't change the atrocity of his actions though.
     
  16. jgalt7 Real vampires don't "sparkle".

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    it's a pretty twisted jutsu. you have to be some kind of mad man to invent something like that.
     
  17. Bamfaliscious M Mercurial Magyar

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    Hoping Tobirama made Edo-Tensei purely as an anti-Uchiha mental torture tactic. (they eventually figure out how to dispel the technique and their lies a dead/captured Uchiha that they unwittingly killed themselves)
     
  18. Grimmjowsensei True Hokage

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    Some of the enemy soldiers were kids aswell :awesome

    Killing the captured enemy soldiers is a war crime.
    Anyways, I am not saying he created ET with bad intentions, but it is a terrible jutsu no matter how you look @it, because of its requirements.
     
  19. Nuuskis Active Member

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    He used war prisoners as sacrifices. :awesome
     
  20. Edo Madara Kamui Dimension

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    Those are times of Wars, Tobirama need to do something to prevent more casualities from Konoha / Senju and to prevent children used as weapons so he invented ET.
     
  21. Stratogabo Member

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    Absolutely, they don't, but that's war, people do desperate things in order to survive. If that's what Tobirama intended Edo Tensei for, I guess he used it to revive Senjus, so they wouldn't turn on him or the clan.
     
  22. Arya Stark .

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    Eh?

    He's the one who started Ninja Academy thus encouraging more child soldiers, I don't think it is the reason at all.
     
  23. CyberianGinseng Ronin Alchemist

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    If you read the chapter, you saw the other side wasn't taking any prisoners, even when they vastly outnumbered the enemy. Four Uchiha standing around murdered Tobirama's little brother. It is perfectly reasonable to use Edo Tensei against child murderers. You'd be stupid not to. You capture two enemy soldiers, just like Tobi ambushed Torune and Fu. You kill one of them and summon them back into the other's body. You then send him after his comrades. Simple.
     
  24. Rikudou God of Logic

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    Tobirama was a hawk, subjective to feelings like revenge, wrath, etc.

    Given his (later) personality, it seems more likely that he wanted to turn living Uchiha children into Undead Senju.
     
  25. Morgan The Legend

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    It is unknown how Tobirama employed Edo Tensei's use. For all we know, he could've invented it be used on himself as a sacrifice (ET self sacrifice can be possible), or he could've never used it at all, despite having invented it, because it is a KINJUTSU
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  26. Big Bad Wolf El Jefe De Mundo

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    ......or he was just a necromancer with no real reason to create it to begin with.
     
  27. KnightGhost Active Member

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    Nobody knows why he didn't it didn't get that far yet.

    so why is everybody pretending like we do.
     
  28. Sarry The guy sniping you out!

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    We can give likely scenarios:

    Shitty/grim and desperate war + child soldiers + Jutsu that revives the dead = some kind of connection.
     
  29. mr_shadow Lousy, PC-obsessed hypocrite Moderator

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    Everyone but 1 poster seems to be missing the third Senju brother who conveniently died this chapter.

    The character has a unique, recognizable design and is related to two main characters, so he's not someone who's going to be totally irrelevant to the plot.

    "'cause I'm a teenage Frankenstein..."
     
  30. NarutoShion4ever Active Member

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    It's certainly a possibility. But he also started the Ninja Academy, so who knows.

    Alternatively, he could have captured two Uchiha; killed one; and used the other as a sacrifice...only to send the Edo Uchiha towards the Uchiha clan with the command to kill as many of his kin as he could.

    But I like your interpretation.
     
  31. Ichiurto Proudly Racist

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    Tobirama was just sick and tired of his people, the Light-Haired, being forced to die and kill for the delusions of dark-haired demons.

    In the end - He was such a gentle soul, he even sacrificed himself to save a bunch of those savages. Just like Minato after him, and Naruto after him.

    The Light-Haired divine must separate themselves from the dark-haired demons to be free from violence.
     
  32. SuperSaiyaMan12 The Seventh Hokage's arrived.

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    We really don't know the motives for Edo Tensei's creation. For all we know, it was to give handicapped Senju or handicapped Konoha Ninja one last chance to fight.

    Also, conveniently ignore that Tobirama purposely never finished the damn technique and classified it as a Kinjutsu.
     
  33. NarutoShion4ever Active Member

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    Given that Tobirama himself said that Orochimaru made it more precise, I don't think it can be considered an unfinished technique anymore.
     
  34. Skywalker Imperial Conqueror

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    The dude wanted to see his family again. :hmm
     
  35. Sarry The guy sniping you out!

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    Except we're getting direct stories about the hell they lived, and the friends/siblings they've lost. It is appropriate to theorize on his motive for creating a jutsu that revives the dead: especially in a world with a very low life expectancy and numerous child soldiers.
     
  36. Big Bad Wolf El Jefe De Mundo

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    from what i recall Madara mentioned why it was created X

    Chances are that it was undeveloped because Tobirama had no way of controlling the actions and whatnot of the ppl that were summoned, thus risking getting offed by his own jutsu. That's what i think anyway.
     
  37. NarutoShion4ever Active Member

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    Madara's explanation---or at least the translated one---doesn't make any sense; it makes it seem like Edo Tensei is a suicide technique.

    And Tobirama could control the Edo summons. When Orochimaru summoned the Senju brothers, Hashirama expected to be forced to fight Hiruzen.
     

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