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Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou Ka (Dan Machi)

Discussion in 'Akihabara Novel Corner' started by Vandal Savage, Dec 27, 2014.

  1. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru no Darou ka

    Can't I Expect A Chance Encounter In The Dungeon?

    Author: Fujino Omori
    Illustrator: Suzuhito Yasuda (Durarara!!, Yozakura Quartet, Devil Survivor series)

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    Six volumes are out in total so far in Japan and the first volume was released in English by Yen Press earlier this month (which I've bought).

    Anyone else following this? Its been one of my favorite series since I started reading it earlier this year. The concept of Gods/Familia/The Dungeon, the cast of characters, and all around writing has made this an extremely fun series to read through.

    At the moment, I'm anxiously waiting for volume 5 to be translated because from what people have said its the next best volume in the series with the newly released volume 6 being the best overall.
     
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  2. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    Volume 5 summary from Kunagisa on Animesuki

    Spoiler: Volume 5
     
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  3. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    Volume 6 summary from Kunagisa on Animesuki

    Spoiler: Volume 6
     
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  5. fbc New Member

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    can you re-post chapter 1 of volume 5?
     
  6. Dream forever flawless Administrator

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    Slowly making my way through the first volume. Bell is one of the few LN protagonists who manage to remain not irk me. :hurr

    As usual, the writing style of the LN leaves much to be desired but part of that can be placed on the translation I suppose. Given that the premise is interesting enough so far and that the characters are likable enough, I'll continue reading further.
     
  7. Lord Yu Active Member

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    Is Bell less boring in the LN? Because he's pretty boring in the manga.
     
  8. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    Yeah, I'll fix the link when I get the chance.

    I thought you would feel that way. He manages to not be annoying like a lot of MCs in LNs tend to be while also not being another Hyoudou Issei or Rudeus Greyrat.


    I believe so. He really starts to shine in volume 3 where as in volume 1 and 2 he is still getting a feel for himself as an adventurer and the dangers involved in it. As well as his growth into the kind of adventurer/person he wants to be. I believe he only gets better from there.
     
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    Volume 7 cover. 496 pages total. All of my hype! :bury

    Ishtar family is supposed to be heavily featured in this one and Freya was supposedly said to be the antagonist for this volume at the end of volume 6's preview. She and Ishtar are both Goddesses of Beauty so I guess there is a rivalry going on there.

    I can't wait for April 14th since we should start getting spoilers shortly after the volume hits stores. :yay
     
  10. ulrichmark New Member

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    Hey were can I read volumes 5 and 6 of the light novel translated in english?
     
  11. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    Volumes 5 and 6 aren't translated yet. When they come out they will likely be posted where the DMCA notices aren't likely to reach or have much effect ie not on Wordpress blogs.
     
  12. luffy no haki Stronger than all

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    Just recently started with this, more like caught up with the manga translations which are at chapter 30. How much of the novel does it cover?
     
  13. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    The manga just finished covering up to the last chapter of volume 2 and a bit of the epilogue. Next up is probably more bits of the epilogue and the start of volume 3. Getting through that volume will probably take a while so you can basically start from volume 2's epilogue or the prologue of volume 3.

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    After a re-read, the manga definitely covered some of the first chapter of volume 3 in chapter 30. Outright starting with volume 3 should be fine and its where this series really takes off anyway.
     
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  14. Muk Let's play a game, Ophelia

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    i already finished reading 1-4 :argh
    need 5 -7 :argh
     
  15. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    What are your thoughts on everything so far? :wtf
     
  16. Muk Let's play a game, Ophelia

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    a fun read
    but i forgot most of it already xD
    was reading on the airport while waiting for the plane xD
    also the novels are really short when i manage to read all 4 of them while waiting for the plane ;p

    i might have to reread to actually remember the content xD
     
  17. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    Yeah, the first 4 novels managed to be about average in length or a bit shorter compared to other light novels. Contrasting that, volumes 5, 6, and especially 7 are pretty thick reads. I can't wait for them to be translated. :bury

    You should definitely do another re-read. I find myself doing so for various parts of the novels and the entire novels themselves when I have the time.
     
  18. blackdeath9879 New Member

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    can i access the volume 1-6 of dan machi translated?
     
  19. Punk Zebra Earth's CEO

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    Where can you read the LN?
     
  20. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    You probably will have to google to find downloads for V1-4.

    Volumes 5-6 aren't translated yet.

    I'll PM you.
     
  21. Jirou ★☆

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    :O :O :O How dumb of me to not know that this series is illustrated by the same illustration of my favorites ones- Drrr!! & Desu (probably because I didn't give it much attention). And btw, may you please PM me where I can read this, too?
     
  22. ImUrSenpai New Member

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    Can someone PM me the translations for volumes 5+?
    I'm in need of the translations bad :c
     
  23. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    A lot of people don't know because I think this is probably the best job Yasuda has done in terms of designing his characters in a diverse manner. When you compare his other works you can see so many character similarities but this is the harder one to figure that out for.

    Yup, I've got you covered. :skysun

    Volume 5 isn't fully translated yet and neither is volume 6 unfortunately.
     
  24. Muk Let's play a game, Ophelia

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    translation is so slow :argh xD
     
  25. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    Yeah at first when Theodane took over it seemed like we were going to get translations faster than under JN but at the moment it is probably the same speed anyway. Translating novels is harder work than translating manga so we just have to be patient. :-(
     
  26. lokoxDZz This is a goodbye, Smile.

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    The history is really simple and nothing really great, but i like its pace and characters i'm looking forward for volume 5 translated, i hope some group get it to translate... but i heard it got licensed
     
  27. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    Volume 7 is a couple of days away from hitting book shelves and it looks like some information is starting to come out. Information thanks to Kunagisa:

    Spoiler: image from volume 7
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    This is Phryne, a Level 5 Amazoness (which only has females ...) from Ishtar Familia.


    Spoiler: Spoiler from volume 7
    Ottarl confirmed the only Level 7 in Orario.
    Apparently Hestia Knife's loan was so big that it prevented/discourged people from joining.
    Cassandra and Daphne didn't join.
    Haruki/Haruhime (whatever the pronunciation of her name is) has a rare Magic that allows her to temporarily boost a person's Level by one (WTFFFFFF?! And you guys say Bell's OP).
    She also joined at the end of the volume.
     
  28. Lord Yu Active Member

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    Where can I read this online? I saw the first volume in the store and I'm not sure I want to give this money yet.
     
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    Best bet until it gets DMCA'd to hell and back and word press eventually removes it. Theodane's blog is supposed to be doing volume 5 and beyond but he ran into some technical difficulties. I don't know when he will get to translating/updating the rest of it.
     
  30. Lord Yu Active Member

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    Downloaded. Will try to read whenever. I have a huge backlog of books and games.
     
  31. lokoxDZz This is a goodbye, Smile.

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    I expected amazoness to be... Beautifull...? :geg

    Bell is just luck, but level uping temporary is pretty OP by standards of the verse i guess.



    Do you know how many people are on hestia familia? :hmm
     
  32. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    No problem. :brofist

    Spoiler:
    I'm wondering if it is a special skill where she can transform into that form. Something similar to Lili and her Cinder Ella ability but on a grander scale. :hm


    As of where we are in translations? Currently it is just Bell in Hestia's familia.

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    After Volume 6? It is Bell, Lili, Welf, and Mikoto for one year. Spoilers from volume 7 indicate this character from volume 7 will join at the end but I haven't looked up information on her yet.
     
  33. Xin Advisor

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    Is this LN worth reading? :cat

    Love the anime so far.
     
  34. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    I definitely think it is. The LN isn't as grating for me to read as other series *cough*Absolute Duo*cough* but apparently Preet begs to differ. :hm

    My only advice should you start is that volume 2 is the weakest part of the series. Literally every other volume is better and once you hit volume 3 shit gets real and Dan Machi starts soaring.
     
  35. Alkaid Yandere

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    I kinda dropped this at 3. There's been a real craze lately with LN's with themes like reincarnation, second lives, and leveling systems. Dan Machi overall was kind of average for me but it's tiers higher than the trash that is generally translated.

    I heard the primary translator for this got a cease and desist letter and dropped the project entirely. Is this true?
     
  36. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    Yeah I noticed the trend. The LN writers, editors, and publishers saw the wave and clearly decided to ride it for all it's worth. Some of these are good but others leave a lot to be desired. I love Dan Machi for having endearing characters to go along with its Familia/Adventurer/Dungeon mechanics. The anime/manga adaptions don't do as great a job of covering that last part but I enjoy Omori describing what each floor is like and the monsters that spawn there as well as the levels required to survive on them.

    That was JN and yeah he got hit with a C&D order. A new translator took over and he at least put it up on sites that are less likely to bother with those but chances are they will still go after his blog. He had technical difficulties so that is slowing him down from actually posting anything new.
     
  37. yung berkz New Member

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    Can i also get a PM for the LN translations
     
  38. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    Yeah, I'll see if another site has them or something since it looks like the one I previously linked is down. :haha

    -edit-

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  39. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    Spoiler: Volume 7 summary courtesy of Kunagisa on AnimeSuki


    This volume sounds absolutely amazing. :wtf
     
  40. Xin Advisor

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    Currently at the point where he learned magic.

    Love it. :cat
     
  41. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    Fits his style doesn't it? Also the magic he ended up choosing makes even more sense once you get to V4 I think. But before that will be Bell's crowning moment of awesome in V3. You are basically right where next week's episode of the anime is at and they may finish off Lili's arc the week after that. :catprone
     
  42. Xin Advisor

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    Yeah, the anime is pretty fast. :lmao

    Already almost caught up where I am in the LN right now.
     
  43. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    Yeah I think with the dungeon battles (and the dungeon itself) not getting as much focus as they could the anime is speeding through the material that happens outside of it. Which is good in my book as long as they properly handle all of Volume 5 and the key battles in Volumes 3 and 4. Those are the best parts of the series anyway along with some of the stuff in volume 1. :catprone
     
  44. Alkaid Yandere

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    How are the battles in the anime so far? I usually don't pick up anime that I've read LN's for cause those are let downs, but the designs look pretty good.
     
  45. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    Basically glossed over unfortunately. The anime doesn't carry any of that intensity from the novel nor do you feel that overwhelming sense of danger from it. In the novel, its like one false move and Bell is gonna die from the monsters he is fighting. In the anime it just feels like he is hacking and slashing the monsters and there is nothing special about it. At the very least, I'm hoping the boss battles properly capture the fights. The Silverback fight was solid but the next boss battle better be handled a lot more carefully. :ippy
     
  46. Suzuku Well-Known Member

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    The dungeon really doesn't feel like a big part of the story at all so far in the anime. I think they're failing on that end. The Dungeon should feel like a character on its own and htye kind of just haven't presented it like the novel.
     
  47. Punk Zebra Earth's CEO

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    Right you are. I was saying the same thing to Jetstorm when the manga started.
     
  48. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    Definitely. I think the anime decided they were going to focus primarily on the characters and have them be the selling point while the actual intrigue and lore of the adventurer/familia system and the dungeon were going to take a back seat to that. I mean, they eventually have to deal with this at least when V3 hits and especially V5 (because all of it takes place in the dungeon) but I'm curious about how they treat it once they can't marginalize it.

    To be fair, even Omori himself is a bit guilty of this when volumes 6 and 7 focus so much on the adventurers and familia as opposed to just the dungeon exploration itself. Still great material from everything I have seen, but hopefully we get another dungeon expedition since Bell has a legitimate team around him now.
     
  49. haegar Well-Known Member

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    damn I have this uncanny knack for catching up on stuff just in time for the big cliffhanger. had no choice but to spoiler me on what comes after 5.1 :facepalm

    at least yesterday hendricksen posted he back doing stuff. wonder how long it takes for 5.2 ....grml ... will be too long either way :lmao

    edit: wait, what, sorotrans had a quicktrans of vol 5 chap2 up but it got taken down on the google doc linked to, damnit, somebody save my day with a pm plz :argh
     
  50. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    Yeah, unfortunately the translations for Dan Machi keep stalling just as the series really starts taking off. At this rate the Yen Press translations will catch the fan translations. :skully

    I'll send you a PM about it.
     

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