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Dragon Ball Super Feats #3

Discussion in 'Meta-Battledome' started by Reznor, Dec 16, 2015.

  1. God Movement Admanistrator

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    I'll watch the video, but Beerus' "planet" isn't that big. It isn't Earth we're talking about.
     
  2. Perpetrator Rex Auto-correct made my user name.

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    Beerus' planet is bigger than Earth, it's like, gas giant size; planets without suns, like the kind around Beerus' are gas giants. (http://www.space.com/30372-gas-giants.html) It's also more massive, like sun level mass. It has a shit load of planets orbiting it, so either his planet is Super big or super massive, or both.

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    Also worth noting in this image, the planet in front of Beerus' Temple is like the size of a softball in comparison to it.
     
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  3. The Aimenator We do not Evolve, we learn from our past mistakes.

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    I can imagine the lifting upgrades the god tier will have
    and then remember the 1000 tons Magetta statement from beerus....Damn it toyataro
     
  4. SSBMonado Well-Known Member

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  5. Perpetrator Rex Auto-correct made my user name.

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    Did they wear the suits in the manga? Did the suits sinking deep into Beerus' planet happen in the manga? Manga Vegeta could have those limits, but for anime Vegeta, wearing a suit more massive than Planet Earth would be like wearing a feather. Probably another reason why Goku doesn't even bother taking off the weighted training clothes, anymore.
     
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  6. The Aimenator We do not Evolve, we learn from our past mistakes.

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    Yep and Nope
     
  7. Perpetrator Rex Auto-correct made my user name.

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    Well if that's the case, 'suits had vastly different properties in each medium, then.
     
  8. Montanz Active Member

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    why the hell do people pretend lifting strenght is relevant in a match, it is not.
    protip:destroying a planet takes far more energy than it would take to lift it.
     
  9. Catalyst75 Well-Known Member

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    Because "lifting strength" is what a lot of Supes's bigger feats amount to? :mlpshrug

    I jest, but even real life has a distinct difference between lifting and actual punching or kicking strength.
     
  10. xenos5 Objectionable Objection

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    lifting strength helps in grappling (basically restricting your opponent) better than striking strength and striking strength helps better with punches/kicks. if you have striking strength of a certain level (able to destroy a planet with one of your punches) your lifting strength shouldn't be too far behind though. There's some weird outliers in Dragonball that have to do with lifting strength but I'd just ignore them tbh rather than stupidly say base Goku'd only be able to grapple into submission an opponent who doesn't lift more than 40 tons or 1000 tons.
     
  11. Sir Jogga King of Inanity

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    Lifting Strength is what allowed Freeza to rip Nail's arm off clean off his socket.

    And what allowed Gregor Clegane to crush Oberyn's head in the Game of Thrones

    Striking Strength is what allowed Gregor to destroy his face in the Book.
     
  12. Fang Titan

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    >2017
    >still arguing about strength differing between striking and lifting

    Ayyyyy
     
  13. Sir Jogga King of Inanity

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    Tis tradition for Dragon Ball
     
  14. Perpetrator Rex Auto-correct made my user name.

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    In an all out fight, it doesn't really matter to guys who can blow up the world with raw energy, but the massiveness of the suits is just too ridiculous to be ignored, imo.
     
  15. Katsuargi Dakka Dakka

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    Unless I'm off my rocker, lifting is useful against gravity effects.
     
  16. Sir Jogga King of Inanity

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    Are dragon ball fans really handwaving lifting Strength again?

    The more things change...
     
  17. ColumbianDrugLord Lord of Pushers

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    Decent leg work; I didn't even realize Beerus' Temple was even that big. The training clothes they were wearing are considerably heavier than originally realized. Goku and Vegeta have come a long way.
     
  18. Perpetrator Rex Auto-correct made my user name.

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    Beerus' planet makes no sense. Then again, DB doesn't make much sense, especially its cosmology.

    Crazy how Whis just "I Dream of Jeanies" a couple of suits weighing far more than a planet. What can't he make and how is Daishinkan suppose to be stronger?
     
  19. Fang Titan

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    An outdated one.
     
  20. ColumbianDrugLord Lord of Pushers

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    I would assume that he's essentially a better version of Whis and Vados. I'm still curious as to who Zarama is and what he can do, besides make exceptionally overpowered Dragon Balls. Then again, if you can make that, you really don't need anything else. There's still a lot to explore.
     
  21. Oomura Yoshitsugu Member

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    Lifting strength? Like Trunks holding off Frieza's death ball one handed that's able to bore through and reach the core of a planet?
     
  22. Silver Age Beerus Member

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    Very pleased to see how my question has blown up. I only asked this because I just figured it would be nice to see how much they weighed because I was arguing with someone on YouTube still citing SA's bad numbers on how Goku could only lift 160,000 tons, lol.

    As a personal aside, would anyone else like to see Goku form a ki shield and go flying out to Pluto in a second? Maybe that would finally convince people that is faster than light. Also, Toei, Toriyama, Toyotaro, if you guys really are lurking this forum, please make it happen! :catwave
     
  23. Blakk Jakk Space Pirate

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    Anyone who seriously cites SA when they jumped the gun months before Super aired is frankly an idiot. The fact they used New 52 Superman against the newly powered SSB Goku instead of Pre-Crisis Supes isn't exactly trustworthy. There's other bits of derp like Tifa vs Yang but since this is a DB feats thread, the GVS2 fight is more than enough to sink their credibility.
    There's been a lot of FTL feats in Super thus far. Anyone who denies it is quite frankly not very bright or paying much attention to the series at large. Even the Toei anime and movies had FTL feats.
     
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  24. Nighty the Mighty I swim in outer space Super Moderator

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    okay cleaned up the last few pages.

    Don't derail this into Saint Seiya again.
     
  25. saint rider 890 Well-Known Member

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  26. saint rider 890 Well-Known Member

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    Yep anime DBZ is more stronger than manga version . I mean there relativistic feat in Saiyan Saga , FTL speed in Frieza Saga and King Vegeta destroy multiple planet with hand wave , also Kid Buu destroy Galaxy what make him around Solar level or Multi Solar System .
     
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    So question since Supes uses scenes from the original DBZ anime for flashbacks. Do we consider that one as canon or do you guys considered Dragon Ball Kai to be canon to super.

    Cause the original anime is where the most impressive feats are.
     
  28. SSBMonado Well-Known Member

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    Not that the lifting feat matters in any practical way, but I find the notion of Goku and Vegeta essentially wearing block holes amusing, so I'd be all for calcing it proper.
     
  29. Adamant soul Well-Known Member

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    Canon for Dragon Ball is the original manga and the Super anime. Neither the original anime or Kai is canon to Super.
     
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    Original Anime is definitely canon to Super it even references filler elements from the DBZ anime.

    Also who do we give a greater power of canonicity.


    Shueisha Decision-making or Akira.

    Paraphrased to the question.

    Does the creator or does the owner have absolute authority over canonicity.

    Cause the way the franchise is heading it looks like franchise owner plan to do a lot of stuff.
     
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  31. Sir Jogga King of Inanity

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    Like what?
     
  32. SSBMonado Well-Known Member

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    Off the top of my head? The existence of Gregory, for one
     
  33. Cain1234 Active Member

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    Ginyu, switching bodies with Bulma is even mentioned.
     
  34. Toaa Tu Dahei oneshot Heartless

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    Right why isnt the anime considered canon?Many scenes have been referenced with some not existing in the manga.
     
  35. Sir Jogga King of Inanity

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    If the DBZ anime is canon to Súper, it'd have some unfortunate implications to the canocity(?) of Super itself.
     
  36. Perpetrator Rex Auto-correct made my user name.

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    Pretty sure the anime is canon to Super, or at the very least, some filler events have been retconned in. This is clearly established in Super.

    I would assume, based on evidence, the filler events added in Kai were important enough to also be included in Super. Whatever happens in Kai happened in Super.
     
  37. Toaa Tu Dahei oneshot Heartless

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    Nope more than likely manga and anime would be the same.
     
  38. lol 4th dimension reiatsu Well-Known Member

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    Gregory is in Kai because it was too expensive/dificult to remove him from every chapter and was kept in Super for a matter of consistency with Kai, remember the japanese don't seem to be so strict with canonicity and that this is a show aimed at kids that might have only seen the remastered anime. Because they are like 12 years old or younger.

    Same reason there's a Super version of BoG and FnF, is Toei being cheap and lazy.
     
  39. Gordo solos David "Gordo" Gordon

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    Only the filler scenes from Kai placed in Super should be canon
     
  40. Gordo solos David "Gordo" Gordon

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    That was Toriyama's initial design of the temple IIRC. Toei changes it to the one we are all familiar with
     
  41. Sir Jogga King of Inanity

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    I mean, that would be picking and choosing
     
  42. Silver Age Beerus Member

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    The way I see it, the Super anime is the primary canon with the manga being supplementary material. I mean, it's the anime everyone is hyped for.
     
  43. Katsuargi Dakka Dakka

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    Level of hype does not canon decide. Lol.
     
  44. Toaa Tu Dahei oneshot Heartless

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    That's totally illogical tho.By this logic the whole show would need to be referenced.Since they put that they dont consider it non canon.
     
  45. Perpetrator Rex Auto-correct made my user name.

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    Besides Gregory and Ginyu taking Bulma's body; what other continuity-breaking filler has Kai adopted?
    Now, what filler has Super adopted that wasn't also in Kai?
     
  46. Gordo solos David "Gordo" Gordon

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    That's why I said should, not would
     
  47. Toaa Tu Dahei oneshot Heartless

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    Didnt quite catch that.
     
  48. Silver Age Beerus Member

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    I know God Movement wasn't interested, but could someone else possibly calc the size of one of the Super Dragon Balls assuming that they are made out of marble without a hollowed-out core?
     
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    Not even possible, we have no idea what they are made out of. Goku and Vegeta's Whis Trainers are akin to wearing black holes, using that example, to assume that the SDBs are made of anything Earthly would be erroneous, at best. All we can say for sure is that they're 3X larger than Earth and a Googleplexian amount more durable.
     
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    Not really at the end of the day. The owners of the franchise decides what is canon or not.

    Shueisha is the real owner of DB franchise. Not even Toriyama, even if Tori passed away they can just allow another author to take over.
     

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