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Do you think Gin loves Matsumoto?

Discussion in 'Court of Pure Souls' started by Sai, Jul 23, 2007.

  1. Sai Die you ass-kisser!

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    Sorry if this has been made before, please discuss fellow members
     
  2. Rinji >:D*

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    This was discussed before at some length but it's been a while so I'll go ahead and throw in my two cents.

    Does Gin love Matsumoto? I don't think he loves her in the... normal sense of the word. We all know Gin is not a normal person, anyway -- his emotions and intentions are all veiled in mystery by that fox-face expression and his casual, sneaky behavior. And, yet, the only time that I've seen his face express something sincere was the time when he was leaving for Hueco Mundo, and he looked back to Rangiku and said simply "I'm sorry." For all that he did, the last thing you'd expect is for him to be apologetic about anything.

    I believe that Gin's feelings for Matsumoto are strong enough to the point that he does not truly wish harm upon her. True, he did set Kira up to fight Hitsugaya and Matsumoto if the need arose, but even to Aizen, Gin referred to Izuru as a mere "distraction." I think he knew that Kira would not be able to stand up to the likes of Matsumoto, but needed him to buy him as much time as possible to keep Matsumoto away.

    As for his behavior of waltzing in and out of her life, I believe that while he cares for Matsumoto, I think he wants to keep her away at a safe distance so he could never hurt her or use her for his grand scheme. It might be a little too much speculation on my part, but it does make sense (or at least to me). Think about it, the others that had been closely associated with him (excluding Aizen of course) were hurt and/or used by him. However, when faced with Matsumoto, it seems as if he either:
    1) Runs away (such as the case when she intercepted Shinsou's attack during the fight with Hitsugaya or all the times we've been told he walks out on her),
    2) Confuses her (not telling her why he keeps leaving, speaking to her kind of sarcastically when he left "If only you could have held onto me longer...")
    3) or, speaks with what little sincerity he has. ("I'm sorry," or as he sings in the musical "Thank you for everything and goodbye")

    In conclusion I believe that Gin does harbor feelings akin to love for Matsumoto. He so damned eccentric, however, and is not capable of loving her as a man should. Tragically Matsumoto does care about him enough to the point that his behavior leaves her emotionally wounded and confused. The lyrics to the character song "Fuyu no Hanabi" describe it perfectly:

    Spoiler:
    Rangiku: You're always disappearing without informing where you're going, Why?
    Both: Only at that time, you think it
    Rangiku: It's a bad habit of yours
    Only sometimes do you show your real smile
    What are you trying to do to me?

    Both: Where do you want to go? What do you want to be?
    Rangiku: Are you only afraid of being loved?
    Gin: Only a little bit more you could have got me
    It's too bad
    Rangiku: I can't believe it

    Gin: The day you met me was your birthday
    It's okay that if I didn't know that, isn't it?
    Rangiku: I loathe that part of you
    It's a bad habit of yours
    That phrase almost drives me to tears with its echo
    just like winter fireworks

    Both: Where do you want to go? What do you want to be?
    Rangiku: An abandoned cat picked up just to be abandoned again
    Both: If you can't be held then just let it be
    Rangiku: In the end it's always
    Gin: I'm sorry
    Rangiku: I feel like an idiot

    Both: Where do you want to go? What do you want to be?
    Rangiku: Are you only afraid of being loved?
    Gin: Only a little bit more you could have got me
    It's too bad
    Rangiku: It can't be cured, can it?
    Winter fireworks
    Winter fireworks
    Winter fireworks...


    I think this the same argument as I made before, too. Maybe there'll be more input from others this time.
     
  3. Ookii Kintama Active Member

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    Does loving her tits count?
     
  4. ArAshI-sensei Truth begins in Lies

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    I think he did love her when they weren't at soul society, he did took her in and fed her.
     
  5. Lenalee driven to distraction

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    He had damn better.

    Gin did seem genuinely sorry to leave Rangiku in Soul Society, and from that, I'm thinking he's worried about remaining with her too long. Maybe it would've put her in more danger than he let on? He does care about her, and seeing as they're both adult Shinigami, they probably had some sort of love affair going on.
     
  6. SENTINEL i'm the loin<B>!</B>

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    That would be such a odd couple.
     
  7. Le_Chaise New Member

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    I think he kinda does. It was sad when he left her to go do evil deeds :cry I'm not 100% sure though
     
  8. Vandal Savage Game Theory Administrator

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    I think it is pretty likely.
     
  9. Ethreal Member

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    I'd say he loves her but is incapable of showing such levels of emotion. His character is a lot more complex then it seems, and I have a feeling that the only regret he has about his actions is leaving Matsumoto behind.
     
  10. Ereya No sugarcoat.

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    He doesn't love her but he has a soft spot for her. He said clearly that it wasn't enough in the song.

    Both: Where do you want to go? What do you want to be?
    Rangiku: Are you only afraid of being loved?
    Gin: Only a little bit more you could have got me
    It's too bad
    Rangiku: I can't believe it

    To me Gin is saying sorry because he can't love her back the way she does in this song. It's a sad song :(
     
  11. meekozy RETARD

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    Does Gin love Matsumoto?

    Definately, considering the fact that they have a "past" eachother
     
  12. Lux inactive melancholy ?

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    I'm pretty sure he cares for her.
     
  13. Skyscape Member

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    I think he loves her as much as he is capable of loving (which, admittedly, might not be much).

    He does care for her, although as a friend, a lover, or just a plaything...who knows? XD
     
  14. KyodaixSensu ? Serenity ?

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    He might, he cares for her. I'm a supporter of the pairing though :D
     
  15. saphire New Member

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    yes i agree with this very much
     
  16. xXKaK0jiXx Member

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    gin he is smling all the time i don't even think we will know wether he loves matsumoto a not
     
  17. Kakashi_DW The gravy is MINE

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    Who knows? Gin, as we all know, is very odd. After he left with Aizen a feeling of remorse came from him toward Matsumoto.

    I don't know if it's planned to be love, but I don't think he hates her.
     
  18. tanukibeast bijuuslayer

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    I can see Gin lusting after her or being a good friend, but I don't see him loving her.
     
  19. Silent_D Hinata's Real Bodyguard

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    i think he feels something for matsumoto, because if he did'nt he would have proabaly killed matsumoto and hinamori both, but he stoped, so yea i think there is something there.
     
  20. Shemhazai New Member

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    I think he cares for her as a brother or something, and maybe even really likes her, but he most likely doesn't love her.
     
  21. blaze of fire Moi Dix Mois Forbidden

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    go ichimaru gin matsumoto is a crackersmile-big
     
  22. Kamishiro Yuki Sucking your blood

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    Love is a complex feeling... I don't think he really doesn, he's just playing around...
     
  23. Mider T VM Rapist

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    Yeah and he still knows that bitch will let him hit any time he whispers in her ear.
     
  24. Karma Banned

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    He just wants some tits.
     
  25. Devilish Angel is turning innocence to apathy

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    I don't think he's capable of love. But I think he can care for someone and to me it seems he cares about her the most.
     
  26. Graham Aker Banned

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  27. SENTINEL i'm the loin<B>!</B>

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    He loves her..possibly..but her loving him..I doubt that.

    and yes this thread was made..numerous times..the search button is your friend.
     
  28. Pantera King of Pimp

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    she is toooooooooooooooo damn good for him. but i think he does care for her.
     
  29. Sanction U C H I H A

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    I agree she has some good tits. :laugh
     
  30. Sauce Code Veronica

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    well one opening showed his arms around her neck
    which could means that he loves her secretly or something.
    [ or that he just wants to kill her ] { that kind of love }
     
  31. Danse Smexing the

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    of course he loves her :wtf
    Gin and Rangiku are just meant to be together :kloff
     
  32. quintessential quintessential

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    not sure, but i do if that helps!
     
  33. xiaojiang Renji Lover

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    i have to say that in a sad sick sort of way, yes (there might even be the possibility of it being normal as well). no matter, i still love this couple!
     
  34. Qrαhms Nihilist

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    There must be something going on between them, but I doubt it's love.
     
  35. Oriodark178 Horses are better on fire

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    Yeah i would have to say, that he defiantly likes her, but love is a strong word for the relationship to the two, perhaps if Gin didnt go all evil, their relationship would have progressed to love.
     
  36. geostigma Banned

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    Not to the extent she loves him no. He hasnt been shown to have much thought about her since leaving though it seems he cares for her like you might a sister.

    Tousen's VC on the other hand whose name I can hardly remember seems to be pretty interested. And for good reasons: Titanic tittays, good looks, ginormous juggs, fun, full funbags, strong, big breastessess, massive melons, huge knockers, mega mammories etc.
     
  37. dilbot Active Member

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    ^ you forgot to say big boobies :)
     

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