Discussion in 'Meta-Battledome' started by Tazmo, Apr 1, 2012.
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Digimon Tier List
Digimon Adventure/02 tier List
Imperialdramon Paladin Mode
Black War Greymon
Imperialdramon Fighter Mode
Imperialdramon Dragon Mode
Dark Network Etemon
Digimon Tamers Tier List~Credit goes to Random Lurker~
D-Reaper (as a whole)
Dukemon Crimson Mode
D-Reaper ADR-01 Juri Type
D-Reaper ADR-09 Gatekeeper
Dukemon w/ Grani
Beelzebumon Blast Mode
D-Reaper ADR-08 Optimizer
D-Reaper ADR-06 Horn Striker
Beelzebumon (at strongest)
D-Reaper ADR-07 Palates Head
D-Reaper ADR-05 Creep Hands
Beelzebumon (at weakest)
D-Reaper ADR-03 Pendulum Feet
D-Reaper ADR-04 Bubbles
Digimon Frontier Tier List~Credit goes to Hadomaru~
Susanoomon ( W/ all Chosen Children)
Lucemon Satan Mode
Susanoomon (Only Koji and Takuya)
Lucemon FallDown mode
Petaldramon (w/ tree powerup)
The Shit Tier:
Digimon Savers Tier List
Agumon Burst Mode
Craniummon /w Cla?omh Solais and Avalon
Bantyo Leomon Burst Mode
Shine Greymon Burst Mode
Mirage Gaogamon Burst Mode
Ravmon Burst Mode
Rosemon Burst Mode
Craniummon w/ Cla?omh Solais
Lucemon Satan Mode
Lucemon Falldown Mode
Belphemon Rage Mode
Shine Greymon (post rebirth)
Belphemon Sleep Mode
Shine Greymon w/Geo Grey Sword
Rize Greymon (Digisoul Enhanced)
Mach Gaogamon (Digisoul Enhanced)
Lilamon (Digisoul Enhanced)
Gizmon: XT (Upgraded)
Rize Greymon (post rebirth)
Geo Greymon (Post Rebirth)
Digimon Xros Wars Tier List ~Credit goes to Random Lurker~
- Shoutmon X7 Superior Mode
- Mega Darkness Bagramon
- Darkness Bagramon
- Dark Knightmon + Bagramon (Dark Knightmon dominant)
- Dark Knightmon w/ Dark Stone
- Grand Generamon (complete)
- Shoutmon X7 (EOS)
- Grand Generamon (incomplete)
- Apollomon Darkness Mode
- Apollomon Whispered
- Gravimon Darkness Mode
- Shoutmon X7 (first appearance)
- Demon Beast Lilithmon
- unsheathed Tactimon
- Shoutmon DX
- Splashmon Darkness Mode
- Neo Vamdemon Darkness Mode
- Deadly Tuwarmon Hell Mode
- Muso Knightmon
- Millenniumon (manga)
- Neo Vamdemon
- Omega Shoutmon
- Zeke Greymon
- Dorbickmon Darkness Mode
- Dark Volumon
- buffed-up Tactimon
- unsealed Tactimon
- Shoutmon X5B
- Shoutmon X5S
- Decker Greymon (post timeskip)
- Fused Lilithmon
- Super Dark Knightmon
- Dark Knightmon
- Decker Greymon (pre timeskip)
- Shoutmon X5
- Metal Greymon (post timeskip)
- Arkadimon Perfect
- Lucemon Satan Mode
- Skull Knightmon Big Axe Mode
- Skull Knightmon Cavalier Mode
- sealed Tactimon
- Lucemon Fallen Mode
- Shoutmon X4B
- Jet Mervamon
- Beelzebumon + Revolmon
- Beelzebumon + Starmon
- Deadly Tuwarmon
- Hi Mugendramon
- Slash Angemon
- Shoutmon X4K
- Shoutmon X4S
- Metal Greymon + Cyber Launcher (pre timeskip)
- Skull Knightmon
- Deadly Axemon
- Grandis Kuwagamon Honey Mode
- Giga Waru Monzaemon
- Ice Devimon Daipenmon Enhancement Absorbent
- Fused Ancient Volcamon
- Shoutmon X4
- Metal Greymon (pre timeskip)
- Ancient Volcamon
- Gran Locomon
- Skull Greymon
- Setmon Wild Mode
- Cyberdramon + Dracomon
- Grandis Kuwagamon
- Waru Monzaemon
- Shoutmon X3
- Skull Satamon
- Golem Jiji Kamemon
- Knightmon Wise Sword Mode
- Mail Birdramon + Golemon
- Ice Devimon
- Mad Leomon Final Mode
- Death Meramon
- Shoutmon X2
- Mad Leomon Orochi Mode
- Mail Birdramon
- Mad Leomon Armed Mode
- Balli Bastemon
- Hi-Vision Monitamon
- Shoutmon + Star Sword
- Mad Leomon
- Pawn Gaossmon
Digimon X-Evolution Tier List~Credit goes to Random Lurker~
- Alphamon Ouryuuken
- Omegamon X
- Dukemon X
- War Greymon X
- Metal Garurumon X
- Garudamon X
what are Chronomons (DM/HM) feats ?
I've only seen his pics @ the wiki
Fixed the Tamers tier list.
Shall we get to a Hunters tier list?
No cause of the inconsistant powerscaling
Imperialdramon FM soloing Frontier LIKE A BAWS
Imperialdramon FM would never get the chance to use Giga Death, so no, he wouldn't solo.
Not that Giga death would hurt anyone stronger than Velgemon
Maybe in your fanfiction, hard anime canon says that Velgemon < or = Aldamon < BelialVamdemon < VenomVamdemon = or < Susanoomon < Imperialdramon FM
Actually velgemon is stronger than Aldamon
Still weaker than Susanoomon who jobs like a true champion
I agree with others that we can't really take Xros hunters seriously. The writers were clearly Adventure fan boys who were out to downplay every other series especially Xros Wars and Frontier while wanking the Adventure leaders to no end. At least they did one thing right and had Masaru destroying fools like the boss we all know he is.
You can't take Xros Wars as a whole seriously because it was a travesty of a digimon series.
we went from this
to this transformer-megazord-super-robot-wannabe-mishmashmon X-who gives a shit
and its bastard child series, hunters, gave us good old Asshatdramon
By i'm just a random lurker, pay me no mind i'm not contributing anything here.
Why not? Xros Wars was consistent with its feats and yes it is possible to logically work out where every Digimon in it ranks compared to the other seasons, disregarding it on the grounds that they look like megazords doesn't fly here. The power scaling also makes sense in Xros Wars. Also Xros Wars wasn't a travesty Xros hunters is but Xros Wars certainly wasn't. If you are going to say we shouldn't take Xros Wars seriously have a half decent reason for it, Xros hunters can't be taken seriously due to inconsistencies, downplay of previous seasons and shitty power scaling none of which Xros Wars is suffering from.
I'm not saying you shouldn't take the feats seriously, I'm just saying xros wars sucked as a series and I have plenty of reasons for thinking that although this probably isn't the place to discuss that.
I thought it was a pretty good season. The music kicked ass, the fights were well made and it was nice to see some actual strategy incorporated into them for a change. The bagra empire was filled with badasses and just all around good villains like the three officers, Apollomon Whispered, Bagramon and one of the best villains in the entire franchise Bagramon's Starscream of a brother DarkKnightmon (both of whom have kick ass themes).
The actual members of Xros Heart themselves were likeable characters especially Shoutmon, Beelzebumon, Dorulumon etc. Kiriha was one of the best rivals ever and god damn that Omegashoutmon vs Zeekgreymon, short but AWESOME. Taiki is the best leader ever and one of the best main characters in Digimon. Shoutmon/Metalgreymon's respective evolutions, Shoutmon X4K, Baalmon's death/reincarnation as Beelzebumon, DarkKnightmon's betrayal of Bagramon are some of the best moments in Digimon.
So yeah I can't agree, Xros Wars ranks pretty high for me only beaten by Adventure (3rd), Savers (2nd) and Tamers at the top. Exactly why don't you like it exactly.
It was incredibly formulaic and repetitive, the entire fist season was 1. go to a new zone 2 they fight the bad guy 3. they get the code crown. rinse and repeat for thirty episodes, it got old fast and the second season wasn't any better it was 1. go to a new continent2. fight the death general,3 leave for a new continent.
I hated the side characters like Akari and Zenjirou because they were dopey-annoying-useless sidekicks whos only character development was finding out they were dopey-annoying-useless sidekicks and trying not to be dopey-annoying-useless sidekicks which they fail miserably at because the writers shamelessly tossed them to the curb second season.
Taiki was nothing special.The whole strategy in fights thing was already done in the manga digimon V-tamer and it was done better , if you haven't read that manga you should because it was pretty good.
The generals were not badass they were lame including the death generals like gravimon, splashmon and olegmon looked stupid .Bagramon would have impressed me if her didn't have a mop for hair. The designs were just stupid
Also what made the original digimon so good was the good characterization and character development all seven kids got. none of that in this season.
all we got was a sob story for Kiriha, Nene bitching about her pussy of a brother, who cries anytime gasp, Butterflies die, my god why, why did that butterfly have to die
but seriously her little brother was fucking annoying just like his turd looking digimon and that was all solved in late into the series whereas with adventure it was consistent throughout.
and what pissed me of the most was the stupid character designs they had for shoutmon. His xros forms look like something a six year old came up with it was just stupid and that might seem petty but the fact he looked so retarded made it very hard to get into he series.
And the series had some good moments but Tamers and Adventure had better. Like Wizardmons sacrifice, Omega/omnimon evolution , leomon dying in tamers. Maybe I'm just being nostalgic because I grew up with those shows but Xros wars did not impress me. Hated the Digimon designs, the repetitive formula.
I haven't really seen much of Xros Wars, so i can't comment on the story, but i'd have to agree about how most of the shoutmon designs were Lackluster.
I also hate his voice.
Tqactimon looks awesome though.
Well as far as a Xros Wars Hunters tier list goes, you could just make it based on what we've seen, and in any threads you decide to make you can just specify the version of the digimon you want to use like usual.
As far as I can see, the only problem is scaling up/down other digimon from the other series if you try and bring Xros Wars into the equation.
I give you the whole pattern thing but it's not like Xros Wars was the first to suffer from that ("cough Adventure 02 fails cough"). Yeah but seeing an animated season with strategic fights in it was still awesome since it was the first time the anime broke the "main character must be stupid" formula. Besides Taiki wasn't the real main character, Shoutmon was. He wasn't a walking bodyguard for Taiki like Digimon partners are, he was his own person with his own ambitions. His stand against Greymon and Mailbirdramon. His only wish to begin with was to protect the people of his village which progressed into saving the world. The other Xros heart Digimon were well developed too. I agree though it seemed they put more effort into developing the Digimon than the humans though I still like Kiriha come the end of the series. I ignore Akari and Zenjirou. Oh and there were good designs among Shoutmon's forms (X4K and Omegashoutmon for example.
Lilithmon was a good manipulator, the way she made Baalmon's entire tribe turn on him forcing him to kill them was brutal as all hell. It really added to Beelzebumon's sacrifice to destroy her later. Blastmon I give you but he was meant more for comedy as opposed to being an actually threatening villain. How can you not think Tactimon was awesome, he's a giant Samurai with a huge sword, there was nothing wrong with his design. He proved to be just as brutal as Lilithmon only he had the power to back it up. His history with Dorulumon was well done just as Lilithmon's with Beelzebumon (I liked the new look just not as much as his old one) and let us not forget it took Shoutmon evolving using power given from OMEGAMON to actually finish him off in the end.
Dorbickmon was only suppose to open you into the death general arc although he did look cool, you can't deny it. NeoVamdemon looked fine as well (really it seems you are ignoring the ones with good designs because of the bad ones) and the sick bastard was draining the power of all those little Lopmon's not to mention was the first (and only) guy to have the sense to use the darkness loader against the heroes, I was happy to see him crushed under Beelzebumon's heel. Zamielmon and Splashmon were filler to show off Shoutmon DX. Olegmon actually looked fine in my opinion and again his history with Ballistamon was good and his turn to good later in the series was well planned.
Gravimon had a shitty design but he did cause the inevitable fight between Kiriha and Taiki. Omegashoutmon vs Zeekgreymon>Wargreymon vs Metalgarurumon don't deny it. His core transport trick was cool and dammit he killed Deckerdramon. Again it seems you are ignoring what all these villains have done in favor of their designs which has nothing to do with how good a villain they are. Apollomon Whispered had an awesome design to anyone who is sane. Dude created a whole dimension and fused Lilithmon and Blastmon to the whole Hell zone which ultimately led to Beelzebumon's sacrifice (he's a good character too but I prefer the Tamers version).
I'm not even going to touch on how judging Bagramon's worth as a villain based on his hair is stupid, he may not look as awesome as Lucemon but was still a great final villain just not the best villain in his season. That title belongs to his little brother, seriously DarkKnightmon was a master manipulator. He treated the Amano siblings like his playthings he could use as he wished. The calm manner he speaks with, his EPIC theme song and the fact you could never guess what he was going to do and how he actually managed to lull you into a false sense of security before he back-stabbed (literally and figuratively) his older brother. His only problem was he failed in the end. Oh and he looked awesome.
There wasn't much of a plot granted but it was a war to save the digital world, it really didn't need one and the finale while rushed kicked all kinds of ass. As least Xros Wars beats out Frontier (which was decent enough) and especially Adventure 02 (not that this is hard 02 and Xros Hunters are in their own league of shit all together. They are the true travesties here)
The Tier list became a Super Thread while I was away. I think we have accomplished something great
Unlike Xros Wars 2
I still like the idea of two separate tier lists. One main one that ignores it's existence, and another on the side that takes it into account
What you say about my attempt at a composite tier list (ignoring XWYH episode 78 and highly incomplete, has mostly high and top tiers classified in a way I can be relatively certain about)
Tier 0 (Multiversal)
- Zeed Millenniumon (games)
Tier 1 (Top universal)
- Zeed Millenniumon (XW manga)
- Moon Millenniumon (games)
- Millenniumon (games)
- Shoutmon X7 Superior Mode (anime)
- Shoutmon X7 Superior Mode (manga)
Tier 2 (High universal)
- Darkness Bagramon
- Ultimate Khaosmon
- Alphamon Ouryuuken
- Chronomon Holy Mode
- Chronomon Destroy Mode
Tier 3 (Mid universal)
- Victory Greymon
- Zeed Garurumon
- Xros Up Arresterdramon Superior Mode (Brave Snatcher)
- Omegamon X
- Bagramon w/ Code Crown
- Ulforce V-dramon Future Mode
Tier 4 (Low universal)
- Demon Super Ultimate
- Imperialdramon Paladin Mode
- Susanoomon (all chosen children)
- Lucemon Satan Mode (Frontier)
Tier 5 (Multi-dimensional/Planetbusting)
- Bagramon (anime)
- Susanoomon (two chosen children)
- Lucemon Falldown Mode (Frontier)
- Shoutmon EX6
- Clockmon (Hunters)
- Bagramon (manga)
- Omegamon (XW manga)
- Tactimon (manga, unsheathed)
- Shoutmon X7 (manga)
- Shoutmon X6
- Dynasmon (XW manga)
- Blastmon (manga)
- Lucemon Child (Frontier)
- Shoutmon DX (manga)
- Kaiser Greymon
- Magna Garurumon
- Dynasmon (Frontier)
- Lord Knightmon (Frontier)
- Millenniumon (XW manga)
- Ulforce V-dramon (XW manga)
- Shooting Starmon
- Omega Shoutmon (manga)
- Zeke Greymon (manga)
- Raptor Sparrowmon
- J?ger Dorulumon
- Atlur Ballistamon
- Dukemon Crimson Mode
- Omegamon (Adventure)
- D-Reaper ADR-01 Juri Type
- Omegamon (X-evolution)
- Dukemon X (X-evolution)
- Lilithmon (XW manga)
- Dark Knightmon (manga)
- Tactimon (manga, sealed)
- Shoutmon X5 (manga)
- Dukemon (X-evolution)
- Banchou Leomon Burst Mode
- Dukemon (Savers)
- Craniummon (Savers, fully armed)
- Dynasmon (Savers)
- Shine Greymon Burst Mode
- Mirage Gaogamon Burst Mode
- Ravmon Burst Mode
- Rosemon Burst Mode
- Rampage Greymon
- Duftmon (Savers)
- Lord Knightmon (Savers)
- War Greymon X
- Metal Garurumon X
- Dukemon (Tamers)
- Sparrowmon (manga)
- Metal Greymon (XW manga)
- Shoutmon X4 (manga)
- Black War Greymon
- Imperialdramon Fighter Mode
- War Greymon (Adventure)
- Metal Garurumon (Adventure)
- Metal Seadramon
- Venom Vamdemon (Adventure)
- Pinocchimon (Adventure)
A lot of stuff is missing, for example XW S1 because I'm not sure where to place it when in comparison with the manga verse. Unlabeled ("?") tiers are uncertain ones.
It's actually looking pretty good. Aside from being incomplete, your definitely headed in the right direction.
Adventure Omnimon is too low
He's strong enough to beat thousands of Megas at least, i'd argue a place on tier 7 at least.
The clones weren't nearly as strong as the original Diablomon.
The fact that they were able to hurt WarG and MetalGarurumon at all proves that they'd be at least low level mega. and considering that this implies at least mountain level in adventure, its still enough to be thousands of times above mountain level.
Bring in the country busting feats then
Come at me bro.
I'm trying to figure out how powerful Grimmon and his other forms are, and Magnamon X.
Grimmon fused with the Chrono Core, giving it the Chrono DSR ability. The Chrono Core is an sentient virus which degrades and destroys all data in the Digital World. It improved itself with the Digi-Entelechy produced by Culumon, and set out to take down Yggdrasil and rewrite the Digital World. It failed, but he is still extremely powerful, he had the ability to control all evolution in the Digital World, etc. When he was defeated, he said "If only Chronomon were here". I am sure he is weaker than Chronomon, but I don't know by how much - it's been a while since I played the games. Chrono DSR is pretty broken.
In D-Cyber, Magnamon X was called by Dukemon X to fight Death-X-mon - I think they fought him before in the past. Magnamon X gave the power of miracles to the Chosen Children/Digimon, which revived Ouryuumon, who became Alphamon's blade, creating Alphamon Ouryuken. Agumon also evolved into Omekamon, and together they purified Death-X-mon. He also could create portals to other dimensions and what not. Even though I know people don't like profiles here, but according to his Digimon Life profile, it seems his armor (or at least when he is goes into "Gold Digizoid state") is comparable to Huanglong ore (same as Huanglongmon, who can destroy the entire Digital World).
EDIT: According to Valdurmon's DRB profile: "because Valdurmon's technique travels at the speed of light, it is nearly impossible to evade" - but not completely impossible. So, isn't this implying that there's Digimon who can dodge it?
....? Why are they so high?
Well this thread needs to be bumped.
Exo Grimmon for Tier 3, Chrono Grimmon for Tier 4, and Grimmon for Tier 5. Not perfect, but those tiers are a good place to start.
Magnamon X is hard to place. Based off of D-Cyber, he should be around Dukemon X level perhaps?
What about regular Magnamon? he's hard enough to pen down himself.
I've always considered him Ultimate(Mega) class in terms of the Adventureverse.
RK version I don't know much about since he never did much in either X-evolution or Savers.
This is boring. Several digimon in the anime remain featless or without their full capacity shown without composite info. This page of this thread has already made that clear.
A tier list restricted to the anime just doesn't work in digimon. There was never anything wrong with a composite list, just the butthurt adventure fans complaining about it.
If you find it boring, then there really is no reason to argue with it anymore. If you're happy with the old list, stick with that and roll with it.
Where would the epic glass canon know as Apocalymon be on this tier list? He is said to have the power to erase 2 dimensions
Cough cough...WTF is this?
In any case, I think this was the best place to put it.
I bet my money that the guy who did dat video was the one who did the power scaling in the last episodes of Xros Wars Hunter Tachi
Apparently, Itachi and Kakashi are part of the Digiverse and have their own digimon and came to help that kid save the multiverse from destruction.
Which apparently happened. (I've got no clue what they were saying though.)
Also, that kid reminds me of Goku a lot.
I was thinking a little bit about Quartzmon and i don't see why he would survive an all delete from Omegamon X... I mean, he has a core inside himself that can be destroyed, so i believe that a universe eraser attack would end up destroying him right? Maybe i letting his ridiculous appearance get into my view of his power but is he really that powerful to be put that hight on the tier list?
Quartzmon is still in the same tier as Omegamon X. All we know is he is significantly above anything that has appeared in the first 5 seasons. He might not be able to survive an All Delete, but that would just result in him being moved down by a small amount.
Should Armagemon be tier 7 or top-end tier 8?
Probably tier 7. The huge gap between him and Adventure Omegamon would be moreenough for them to be in separate tiers.
I think Zeed in the manga should be moved up. According to Garmmon from withthewill, Zeed was force digixrosing everything in his path(The ground, Dynasmon and other digimon) and was getting stronger in the process. So dynasmon was absorbed by Zeed after his attack failed horribly. When he was xros opened, it split into all the Xrosed parts (in other words the things that he absorbed).
How was manga Zeed defeated?
It's made clear that the previous heroes+Taiki could not beat him without the Brave Snatcher hence why they needed it. Quartzmon's powers are:
-Being the size of a planet plus all that massive data
-Having the powers of all digimon he's absorbed
-Drawing Digimon into the digiquartz
-Being able to change into any digimon he's copied or create armies of them
-Creating the digiquartz and assimilating the whole world in it
-Being able to recreate his data to survive attacks
-Existing outside time and space
He had the data of various digimon he'd absorbed, the whole planet and those of the previous season digimon. He was beaten from the inside using the brave snatcher. He does have H4X like Clockmon's time/space powers and those of the other digimon main casts he'd absorbed.
He'd be quite high despite his meh design(badass voice though) or regardless of whether he can survive All Delete all or not. He'd be below the likes of Neo, Ryo's Zeed, God, Darkness Bagra, Shoutmon superior mode and a select few others still though.
Force Xros Open from the inside. The went inside his core (MoonMillenniumon) and separated Nene from the whole mess, which caused the whole shit to unravel.
He's already near god tier as it is (highest position in tier 1), and since he lacks multiversal feats he's not fit in tier 0.
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