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Deidara vs Yondaime Raikage

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Uzamaki Nagato, Feb 20, 2011.

  1. Uzamaki Nagato Agent of Justice

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    Battlefield: Sunagakure.
    Distance: 50 m.
    Mindset: Bloodlusted.
    Knowledge: None.
    Restrictions: Zero.

    Deidara starts in the air.
     
  2. bullsh3t Active Member

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    Deidara will take this with easy difficulty. A is a short ranged fighter he won't be able to hurt deidara.
     
  3. Nikushimi Savior

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    Deidara nukes, Raikage dodges.

    Deidara uses C4, Raikage's Raiton armor would probably nullify it in his body.

    All Deidara can really do is spam bombs 'til he runs out of clay. And he can't stay airborne forever, so...eventually, Raikage gonna rape his shit.
     
  4. Sadgoob Editing Specialist

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    He's not going to dodge c3.
     
  5. Guiness rly nigga

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    This would be an interesting match up.

    I'll start by saying that none of Deidara's lesser bombs like he tried on Sasuke are not going to hit this man at all.

    However, if he uses C0, the bomb that explodes and eat aways at the opponent cells, correct me if I'm wrong, the Raikage won't be able to see it. However, with his Raiton armor on, I doubt he can be affected because of the common logic.

    Raiton > Earth

    Also, Sasuke Chidori'd himself to get rid of them in his system. So we definitely know lightning can negate their effects.

    If he uses Garuda, Raikage can easily outmaneuver the bombs Garuda lets go. However, I recall Deidara staying on the ground when he did Garuda tech. I believe that he can't support the birth of the technique in the air and will have to come closer to the ground to complete due to its sheer weight. In other words, if he creates Garuda in the air, most likely it'll fall to the ground before the technique is fully finished. Raikage can use this as a chance and pwn it with Vertical Lightning or Lightning Horizon. I don't think we should underestimate Raikage's inability to jump high either. I recall him being able to jump in the air to the full height of the Hachibi and cut off its horn. If Deidara gets too close to the ground, I'll say around maybe 10-20 metres, chances are Raikage can use that as a chance to jump and attack Deidara.

    Either way, I don't see any attacks of Deidara working. he won't be able to use the Mine tech because that requires him to be on the ground and assistance from Tobi, which he won't have in this battle.

    I give this to the Raikage unless someone can give me a reason not to.
     
  6. bullsh3t Active Member

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    C3 will blow his ass up hate to say it considering A is one of my fav char. Y would he spam bombs and waste them if they aren't working? Deidara is highly intelligent.
     
  7. Guiness rly nigga

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    Sasuke completely outwitted him. :ho
     
  8. bullsh3t Active Member

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    Sasuke's sharingan can see chakara and if it wasn't for the curse mark he would've been boned i doubt A can fly.
     
  9. Grimmjowsensei True Hokage

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    It all depends whether Raikage can come out alive from a C3. My bet is that he could.
    The only problem is that he doesn't have a way of reaching Deidara but assuming that Deidara is IC, he will make a stupid mistake and Raikage will take his head with a lariat.
    I'd rank Raikage higher than Deidara without a doubt but he might lose this due to the shitty match up.
     
  10. Guiness rly nigga

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    Sasuke used his wits. Get over it. Thats like saying if it wasn't for A's Raiton Armor, Sasuke's Chidori would have fatally wounded him. :geg

    Hate to see these type of comments when pitching other characters against others. Doesn't make for a good debate. Whats done is done.

    Now back on subject, A is not getting hit by Deidara's fodder bombs, or Garuda's for that matter. If he uses C0, the Lightning Shroud will negate the effects even before the microscopic bombs can even enter his body.

    The only way Deidara is winning this is by using his Kamikaze attack, and even then that is Earth based. It wouldn't be SO far-fetched to say that Lightning Shroud amp'd up some more could help prevent from being mortally wounded lolololol. :p
     
  11. Sadgoob Editing Specialist

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    What stupid mistakes did Deidara make against Sasuke? He was highly analytical, and tricked him with a c4 clone. A is not dodging a c3, and though might survive, he will not be in good enough shape to avoid everything else in Deidara's arsenal afterward.

    • Foreign, c4 contains the microbombs. c0 is his self-destruction.
     
  12. Guiness rly nigga

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    Oh right, my bad. So what is the C3? remind me again please lol

    Still my point stands about the microbombs until someone can refute it.
     
  13. Lightysnake Niku still has bad taste

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    C3 is Deidara's island flipper.

    A might survive one (might), but he'll take damage.

    And Deidara should be able to use it more than once. One doesn't seem to take anything out of him at all.
     
  14. Sadgoob Editing Specialist

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  15. Excalibur Cana? Where are you!

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    Raikage should win this with difficulty only because Deidara's airborne. If he wasn't this wouldn't even be a match. Although Deidara could potentially outsmart Raikage momentarily. I think the big difference here is C0 though?
     
  16. Sadgoob Editing Specialist

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    Even if Deidara was on the ground, he can dig and then become airborne, like he did against all of Team Gai and Team Kakashi.
     
  17. bullsh3t Active Member

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    Raikage is a close ranged fighter how is it an even match if deidara's airborne? If he wasn't than this match would highly favor raikage. C0 will kill both of them.
     
  18. Guiness rly nigga

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    If Deidara attempts that, Raikage sicks on that bitch and Lariat his ass. :ho
     
  19. Excalibur Cana? Where are you!

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    I know that's why I said with difficuties. Raikage has enough speed and evasive skills to avoid most of Deidara's bombs. Enhanced with Raiton armor he should be safe enough until the big guns come out. C4 and C0 are the only threats imo and yeah he likely dies if hit inside of C0.
     
  20. Nikushimi Savior

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    Why not? It has to fall a while before Deidara can even safely detonate it. That gives Raikage plenty of time to Shunshin the hell away from it.

    What's he going to do, just sit there and do nothing? He'd at least try.


    EDIT: I admit, though, I completely forgot about CO. This match would probably be a tie, then.
     
  21. Turrin 玄武

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    Honestly IC Deidara would probably land or come into CQC with his bird, and than he would be absolutely raped by Raikage. Even if Deidara does stay airborn Raikage can most likely throw Raiton enchanted weapons or sticks up there to clip Deidara's wings, it would be a tough battle, but Raikage still could win.
     
  22. Lightysnake Niku still has bad taste

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    There is no way on earth Deidara is going to go hand to hand with the Raikage. That would not happen.

    Onoki even says he hated how Deidara's strategies consist of fighting from a distance. Against the mountain of muscle with Raiton all over?
     
  23. bullsh3t Active Member

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    He can try and fight but only fail kishi gonna have to give A new moves if he wants him to compete with deidara. I believe A is in higher tier but the moves he used so far won't cut it.
     
  24. Nikushimi Savior

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    Turrin, Deidara is bloodlusted here. He's going to rain nuclear death from above before the thought of landing even crosses his mind. :giogio

    How do you figure? Raikage can easily dodge or tank everything Deidara throws at him except for CO, and C4 should be nullified by the Raiton chakra coursing through his body.

    It's also only by virtue of the starting distance and the fact that Deidara starts airborne that he doesn't instantly get killed at the speed of light by a bloodlusted Raikage.
     
  25. Lightysnake Niku still has bad taste

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    Pardon me, but I don't see how A dodges OR tanks C3
     
  26. Excalibur Cana? Where are you!

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    I don't see how he tanks it but surely he can dodge it.
     
  27. Lightysnake Niku still has bad taste

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    An explosion that could take out a hidden village?
     
  28. Excalibur Cana? Where are you!

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    It took out a large portion of the village but no the whole thing and didn't he prepare that?
     
  29. Lightysnake Niku still has bad taste

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    It didn't take out anything because Gaara blocked it.

    And Deidara can create any explosion on the spot. See the C3 he made against the island turtle
     
  30. Guiness rly nigga

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  31. bullsh3t Active Member

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    I don't believe raikage will be able to able to tank C3's.
     
  32. Lightysnake Niku still has bad taste

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  33. Corax Active Member

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    Deidara will win with C3. With no knowledge Raikage will not try to dodge it far enough (even if he can) and will be caught in a blast.
     
  34. Guiness rly nigga

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    Okay, so Raikage may have some difficulty with the C3 Lol.

    Still, I believe he can dodge it.
     
  35. Empathy Disciple of Thunder

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    How the hell is A going to hurt him ? A is not dodging or tanking a Shi Suri, village busting bomb. Though his shroud would unintentionally nullify Shi Fo. Shi Won and Shi Tsu are tanked. But Shi Suri wins the matchup, A, can't dodge or tank that. Deidara wins easy-med diff depending on how much chakra Shi Suri takes up. The best chance A would have is to blitz at the start of the matchup, and you started him in the air.
     
  36. Deadway `

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    .....
    c1-tanks
    c2-dodges
    c3-sunshins faster then the speed of amaterasu
    c4-nullify
    c0-takes prep/has to undo stiches/eat clay/vain thing+ he has to be on the ground I assume for it to have any effect-A ldecapitates him the moment he lands on the ground.

    A wins. People underestimate how fast he is.
     
  37. Empathy Disciple of Thunder

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    I wasn't aware that A's shushin can clear an entire village's in mere seconds it takes for Deidara to move his fingers in the Katsu (喝) position.
     
  38. Guiness rly nigga

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    Did Deidara used C3 in his fight against Sasuke? if so, how did it played out? I can't remember :geg

    With someone like the Raikage's reflexes and speed, unless if you supply enough proof to show that C3 is indeed the playmaker in this situation most opinions won't change.
     
  39. k2nice Active Member

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    If deidara uses C0 on the ground then the Raikage puts a hole through his chest. C4 doesn't work if the Raikage has on his raiton shroud due to it disabling it, but it don't really see the raikage dodging a C0 unless he can shushin 5km in a couple of seconds.
     
  40. Deadway `

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    Yea that is, if it's already on the ground. He has to drop it first, which takes about 3 seconds. 3 seconds moving at---let's say 300 km/hour + the impact and shock wave can increase his momentum and push him farther away. Of course the blast travels a lot faster and will deal damage to him unless his shroud can protect him.
     
  41. Guiness rly nigga

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    Okay, just read the C3 feat from Deidara. A is not tanking that and until he shows a much more impressive feat of speed, that is, travelling longer distances, I'll edge it in favour for Deidara.

    Kishi used epic PnJ by having him not use that against Sasuke. :geg
     
  42. Lightysnake Niku still has bad taste

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    Actually, it was Tobi being there, most likely
     
  43. bullsh3t Active Member

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    Correct! s(^-^)-b
     
  44. Deadway `

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    Of course he's not tanking it, but his shroud can absorb most of the damage if he's far enough from it. He dodged the un-dodgable Amaterasu which is instantaneous so we can assume very close to the speed of light. If you take a realistic view of it-shoot a handgun bullet down a village, how long do you think it will take for it to cross it or cover a good 4-5 km?
     
  45. Empathy Disciple of Thunder

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    Scans of A's speed traveling that long a distance in that short of a time. If A was that fast he would have reached the Kage summit in mere minutes. Even if he does dodge C3 (which there is no way in hell he will) what does A have that can reach Deidara ? He is strictly close-combat oreinted.

    It was more likely due to him being reluctant to kill his partner Tobi.
     
  46. Deadway `

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    A never used the shroud to get to the summit. The scan of him dodginh amaterasu, if he travels at that same speed, why can't he clear the blast range? You're right, he has nothing, my point is, he outlasts Deidara until he has to resort to C0 which means he needs to get out the air and when he does, he gets decapitated.
     
  47. Corax Active Member

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    Well,true he is super fast but his shunshin is short ranged. He is like a car with a nitro he can accelerate fast but he cant sustain this speed for a long time/distance. Well unless you have a feat of his long ranged shunshin.
     
  48. Empathy Disciple of Thunder

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    You have no proof A can travel that fast for so long a distance.
     
  49. Deadway `

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    Why not? When he enters V2 Shroud he "gains tremendous raw speed and monstrous power." That and he has tailed beat chakra, he could keep that speed up for a while.
     
  50. k2nice Active Member

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    Why would the raikage leave his bodyguards behind?


    But yes i agree, what does Ei have to reach Deidara. I doubt the Ei can jump over sky scrapers.
     

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