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Base Naruto vs Cursed Seal Part 1 Sasuke

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Demonofnaruto, May 12, 2012.

  1. Demonofnaruto Epar Em

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    Restrictions: Ninjutsu, RM, KM, SM
    Mindset: Bloodlust
    Distance: 25 meters
    Location: Naruto vs Pain

    Naruto is allowed to make a rasengan. But otherwise, all Naruto has at his disposal is taijutsu and a kunai to handle CS2 Sasuke from Part 1
     
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    Naruto babyshakes.

    Current Base Naruto with his hands tied could probably take this. Sasuke was Low-Jounin level at best during that time.
     
  3. Sans Bad Time

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    Base Naruto has sparred with Deva, and was part of a combo attack that forced Madara into Susano'o usage. There's simply no way that Sasuke can keep up with him. Sasuke might survive for a short time due to his Juin, but that's it. Successive Rasengans will put him down without issue.
     
  4. Doge Everything I say is serious.

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    Naruto easily.


    He can spam 50 clones and throw 50 rasengans at Sasuke. The sauce can't take that much punishment.
     
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    No Ninjutsu except for a rasengan. Read OP
     
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    Does Naruto get Shushin?
     
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    Naruto rapes with ease Naruto vastly outclasses Part 1 CS2 Sasuke in fact I doubt Part 2 CS2 Sasuke can beat current Base Naruto
     
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    Naruto still rapes. He just waits for Sasuke to come near and Rasengan's him.
     
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    Naruto breaks Sasuke's face with one punch.
     
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    Base Naruto outclases any Sasuke in part 1 with ease.
     
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    The Naruto wank on this thread is ridiculous.

    Naruto without his clones using only Taijutsu and a Rasengan aint touching Sasuke with his 3-tomoe Sharingan.

    Their speed is more or less equal looking at feats and the databook.

    Naruto's Taijutsu is better but that don't mean shit when all his moves will be evaded.

    Sasuke evades Naruto for a while, and then goes CS1 and lands a Chidori.

    8/10 mid-high diff. He loses if Naruto can go KN1+
     
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    Current Base Naruto Taijutsu >>>>>>>>>> KN1 VOTE Naruto Taijutsu. KN1 Naruto was more or less equal to CS2 Sasuke.


    Current Base Naruto w/o Restrictions > Base Gai/Non-Kamui Kakashi/Asuma/Most Base Jounin
     
  14. SuperSaiyaMan12 The Seventh Hokage's arrived.

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    Given how Naruto is stronger than Kakashi in base and has shown very high feats of speed and strength?
    Why not? Part I Naruto was able to.
    Databook that is four years outdated.
    Sasuke isn't that good. God...
    xKantstopx, Sasuke isn't even in the same league as current Base Naruto without clones.
     
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  16. SuperSaiyaMan12 The Seventh Hokage's arrived.

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    He HAS shown that he is stronger than Kakashi in base.




    Other than basically blitzing Kakuzu before he could turn around...rescuing Sakura before Sasuke could even react, or stopping Kakashi in mid step?


    Yes, far faster. And with superior taijutsu skill to Sasuke he should land blows.


    Naruto can dance around Sasuke's attempts like he did against Konohamaru in the Chunin Exam OVA.
     
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    Replace Naruto with Kakashi w/o Clones or Base Gai. Would you still say Sasuke wins? Would you still say Sasuke wins? I don't think you realize just how much Naruto has improved.

    And you actually think Current Base Naruto w/o clones couldn't handle KN1 Part 1 Naruto? Current Naruto is much faster.
     
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    Okay, Never said he wasn't.


    -The thing with Kakazu was with the aid of his KB.
    -Him rescuing Sakura was "Dynamic Entry" not a "Blitz" and doesn't really count as a speed feat because Naruto's location relative to Sasuke's was Unknown.
    -If that last one is him grabbing Kakashi and clashing with Sasuke at the bridge after the Danzo fight, then that was a simple surprise attack. Not all that impressive.


    Nah, I don't see it.:oh Some scans would be nice.

    :rotfl Good one. :lmao

     
  19. SuperSaiyaMan12 The Seventh Hokage's arrived.

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    Then why would Naruto have trouble with Sasuke if he is stronger than Kakashi, who even in Part I babyshaked Sasuke and Naruto?



    He still had to get into position in time and attack before Kakuzu could turn around.
    Kakashi admitting Naruto had better speed/better timing than him there means nothing? And its still moving faster than Sasuke could make a stab.
    Kakashi was moving to counter Sasuke's Chidori. Naruto grabbed him just as he was moving.



    You're the only person arguing that a Part I Sasuke would even stand a chance against current Base Naruto. Naruto clashing with Deva in Base (not getting overwhelmed, unlike Kakashi) shows that Sasuke stands little chance in his Part I incarnation.


    Its a valid comparison. Naruto is just that much stronger than this incarnation of Sasuke.
     
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    This (http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v47/c433/5.html) should really be enough. The Deva Path of Pain in Taijustu is far above Part 1Sasuke. Hell, Deva could Tag (http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v45/c420/7.html) Kakashi.
     
  21. Krippy Active Member

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    Well, this powerscaling does work out well, because of two things

    1. At the time Kakashi stated that Naruto "surpassed" him, not only did Kakashi still outclass Naruto in Taijutsu, Genjutsu, varied Ninjutsu, Speed, Intelligence, and overall experience, nothing Naruto did at that point beside learning RasenShuriken leads us to believe he was stronger than Kakashi besides his overall stamina, and strength. Character statement aside, Kakashi was still better overall.

    2. Base Naruto in Taijutsu w/o his clones doesn't have the feats neccesary to lead me to believe he will just blitz Sasuke and overwhelm him even with the mature Sharingan.

    Okay, good stuff.

    Kakashi was feeling the recoil from using Kamui earlier and was helpless. Naruto intervening at the right moment was simply plot. Just like Kakashi intervened to save Sakura earlier. Dynamic Entry ftw.

    Its not like Kakashi was expecting that, or was trying to attempt a blitz. He snuck up on him with a clone and did what he needed to do. That's all.


    I'm the only one arguing because I am the only one who is looking at this with a non-biased mindset.

    Sasuke's speed (http://www.[Blocked Domain]/manga/Naruto/112/4) at this point in time is at lee's level, and his 3-tomoe Sharingan turned the tide of the fight at Vote.

    Naruto blocked a few punches from Deva, before going back to SM.

    The only time Kakashi got overwhelmed was when Deva used his powers, and when Asura Path came into play.

    Deva stabbed Kakashi with his Chakra blade right off the bat, but he conveniently enganged Naruto in a fist fight, only pulling out the chakra rod when it was too late. The reason he was able to stab Kakashi in the first place was because he had tried to pin Deva into a position where he couldn't move, making it easier. Kakashi reacted to his regualar attacks (http://www.[Blocked Domain]/manga/Naruto/420/6) just fine.

    I'm willing to bet that (current) Sasuke would react just fine too. Thanks to his Sharingan + Speed.

    Okay, whatever you say :lmao Naruto is undoubtedly stronger, but the restrictions here put him at a huge disadvantage.

    I already addressed this in my previous post. Naruto blocking punches from Deva Path doesn't lead me to believe that he could beat Sasuke in Taijutsu.

    And the Chakra Rod was addressed to. Kakashi was trying to pin Deva and got stabbed. Deva not being able to best Naruto for a brief moment in Base doesn't lead me to believe he could land hits on Sasuke w/o KB.

    Sasuke's speed (http://www.[Blocked Domain]/manga/Naruto/112/4) is about the same as a weightless lee. His body should be able to react in accordance to his sharingan's precog.

    Show scans of a Single opponent landing a decisive hit on Sasuke with his Sharingan active (and don't try to post scans of Itachi fighting Sasuke in a Genjustu :maybe:gun) and I would change my answer.
     
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    Sasuke has been taged multiple times.[1 (http://www.[Blocked Domain]/93-416-21/naruto/chapter-411.html)][2 (http://www.[Blocked Domain]/93-47297-11/naruto/chapter-483.html)][3 (http://www.[Blocked Domain]/93-236-12/naruto/chapter-231.html)][4 (http://www.[Blocked Domain]/93-418-10/naruto/chapter-413.html)]
     
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    First Scan: Sasuke was caught by surprise, and had no way of blocking 6 swords being plunged into his body simultaneously.

    Second Scan: Sasuke didn't have his Sharingan active at the time. The kick was blocked nonetheless.

    Third Scan: Sasuke could not predict the Chakra arms as they moved separte from Naruto's body. The speed of his body was manegable (http://www.[Blocked Domain]/93-236-7/naruto/chapter-231.html), but coupled with the unpredictable Chakra arms he got overwhelmed.

    Fourth Scan: Again, a surprise hit, a cloaked bee hit him while he was wincing in pain (http://www.[Blocked Domain]/93-418-9/naruto/chapter-413.html) and it is rather farfetched to think he could've reacted to that. Weird how these two hit surprise hit are the only ones bee scored the entire fight. :maybe
     
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    I usually power scale for part 1 characters so base naruto's physical attributes are just way above sasukes sorry to say.
     
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    Sasuke wasn't caught by suprise in the first scan. I also like how you say legitimate hit, when being caught by suprise is still legitimate.

    Also, base Naruto's taijutsu is superior to Preskip Kakashi's, unless you have feats to disprove. Preskip Kakashi > CS2 Sasuke in everything.
     
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    http://www.[Blocked Domain]/manga/Naruto/411/18
    Yes he was, notice the "!?" which usually indicates a surprised reaction. Bee channeled Raiton through his sword at the last second, which caught Sasuke by surprise. He then used the opening to cut him up.

    I said decisive, not legitimate. It is still legitimate to catch him by surprise, but being how they were both sneak attacks, they are not decisive (As in proving that Naruto in Base could overwhelm Sasuke in Taijustu, and bypass the Sharingan precog + Sasuke's speed.)
     
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    Naruto will just catch him by suprise then, or blitz him. Current base Naruto sparred with Deva, and was able to bushin feint Kakazu.

    Base Itachi was able to grab and break Sasuke's hand while using chidori. Your over wanking Sharingan Pre-cog. Sasuke's best feat is keeping up with KN1, who is slower than current base Naruto.
     
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    I don't see any blitzes happening soon. Naruto isn't that fast.

    That was with a superior Sharingan, Speed, Taijutsu, and pretty much everything else. That is a bad example as Naruto's current Taijutsu and Speed doesn't completely eclipse Sasuke's in part 1 like Itachi's did at the time.

    He also had 2-tomoe Sharingan, which was unable to predict fast movements from opponents. I don't think I am over wanking it, because it pretty much makes all the difference in this fight. Any advantage in speed Naruto has is nulled by the Sharingan.
     
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    In the bold.
     

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