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Bansho Tenin > Susanoo

Discussion in 'Konoha Library' started by rainbowdash, Oct 19, 2011.

  1. rainbowdash Banned

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    After seeing how Gaara was able to throw Madara out of his shell with a PHYSICAL attack, there is no reason that a NON-PHYSICAL attack like Bansho Tenin cannot do the same:

    1) Use one arm to push Susanoo away.
    2) Use the other to pull user up close and smack him.

    Edit: For those who missed the Nagato vs Itachi/Naruto/Bee fight, look at the start where Nagato used 1 hand to BT Naruto and the other to BT a rock to hurl them at opposite directions toward each other.

    I guess there is no debate now. Itachi fans cannot neglect the fact that in a REAL Nagato vs Itachi battle, there is no contest. Tsukuyomi = nullified by a more evolved EMS, Amaterasu = nullified by absorption, Shinra Tensei etc. Susanoo = nullified by Bansho Tenin, Shinra Tensei or Chibaku Tensei.

    The debate is over. Rinnegan > EMS > MS > S > Byakugan > eye of Sauron > normal eye > blind eye > no eye > 'eye' seek you (ICQ)
     
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  2. shintebukuro Active Member

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    Of course, any hypothetical scenarios proposed must be fact if they sound right.
     
  3. bearzerger Major Cliff Allister McLane

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    And 'lo and behold three years after the battle of Deva Pain vs Susanoo began on NF finally we have a clear victor.
     
  4. bullsh3t Active Member

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    I can see Nagato BT'ing Itachi out of his susano :hurr
     
  5. Jak N Blak Jakanese run shit.

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    Its like a breathe of frikin fresh air.
     
  6. Jizznificent Your unborn bro

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    b4 shitstorm i'll say this... can't we all just get along? :giogio
     
  7. vagnard Active Member

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    There was a lot of PNJ here.

    Every time Sasuke and Itachi moved, Susano moved along with them.

    When Nagato used Chibaku Tensei it pulled Susano along with Itachi.

    Basically what happened here made no sense.
     
  8. Corax Active Member

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    Well at this point even doton can bypass Susano. Every jutsu has a weakness anyway.
     
  9. WT #for the watch

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    Uchiha Rinnegan > EMS > Nagato Rinnegan > MS > Sharingan
     
  10. IpHr0z3nI Active Member

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    Wait what did the opening even read the chapter????

    The sand underneath Susano, was not protected by Susano...

    And what is the point of these threads anyway...

    Hasn't it been confirmed to be a sharingan evolution????
     
  11. Frawstbite Night

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    Yeah, but Gaara spoke as he figured out the mechanics of Susanoo. If that's true then KISHI wanted it that way, evidently. So, if you believe it's PNJ, it's more like he clearly decided to change it for better or worse.
     
  12. Coldhands A Thousand Eyes, and One

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    We'v seen both Itachi and Sasuke outside their Susano. Itachi when they finished the fight with Nagato and Sasuke when he showcased his EMS Susano.

    Chibaku Tensei pulls everything, while Bansho Tenin can pull a specific target.

    The events in this chapter make perfect sense.
     
  13. Sorin Active Member

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    Mind explaining how did you reach that conclusion?
     
  14. Truth Messenger The chosen two

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    Yes, and end the day gangbanging Mei.
     
  15. SuperSaiyaMan12 The Seventh Hokage's arrived.

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    Wrong. EMS is weaker than the Rinnegan period. Nagato was the strongest member of Akatsuki for a reason.
     
  16. Vergil642 Nikushimi's Successor

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    It actually makes perfect sense. Gaara held Susanoo with his sand and pulled Madara out.

    OP makes no sense. You can't use Shinra Tensei and Bansho Tennin simultaneously, so I have no idea what he means by "use one arm to hold Susanoo, the other to pull Uchiha out."

    You use Bansho Tennin on an Uchiha, or any pulling technique, without securing Susanoo and the element of surprise (Sasuke used Susanoo to hold himself in place remember) then Susanoo comes along for the ride with the Uchiha.

    A smart Rinnegan user uses Shinra Tensei to dissipate Susanoo, assuming it isn't hiding behind Yata's Mirror.
     
  17. Pseudo laughing with a mouth of blood

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    Someone put Nikushimi on suicide watch.:-(

    EDIT: OP is most likely a dupe, but rep for you still.
     
  18. Heli Member

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    Eh depends on what you mean by strongest. The Rinnegan has some serious nuking ability. However Tobi was the strongest 1v1 fighter in Akatsuki because his phasing and Izanagi are just that broken.
     
  19. Deshi Basara OUT FOR A FEW WEEKS, SEE YA

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    Well that was anticlimactic :lmao
     
  21. rainbowdash Banned

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    Did you see the Itachi/Naruto/Bee vs Nagato fight?

    Towards the start, Nagato used one hand to BT Naruto and the other to BT a rock to hurl them in opposite directions.

    ;)
     
  22. IpHr0z3nI Active Member

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    Doesn't have the sharingan aspect of the Rinnegan...

    The fact that a Uchiha must give a full thorough showing of the Dojutsu, is reason enough to make that deduction...

    Never send a child to do a mans job... And Kishi is basically trolled Nagato, in favor of showing how a ONE IS SUPPOSED to utilized the Rinnegan...
     
  23. Nic .

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    We already know that Nagato is stronger than Itachi, can we move on now? :giogio
     
  24. ?Sharingan Squid? Dapper as fuck

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    http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/73851290/13
    If you look at the bottom left panels, it sure as hell looks like the sand just went through it.
    I guess it's explained (rather badly) by the lessened weight of the sand.
    There was notably no sand under Madara to begin with really. Only the smashed rock Oonoki raised.

    Another thing that is just incredibly nonsensical is how the lightweight sand still kept Susano'o in place. That thing is supposed to be freaking strong.

    Basically Kishi just rushed into showing how Madara has a Rin'negan.
     
  25. riyuhou Uchiwa_Ryuhou

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    Because Susano'o would have come with the Uchiwa.

    Here it works because Gaar's sand block Susano'o and at the same time pull Madara.
     
  26. CrazyMoronX Old Man

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    It could, but you have to focus on the Uchiha in the middle and not the Susano itself.

    The reason CT pulled Itachi and the Susano is because it cannot target anything. It just pulls in everything. At the same time.
     
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    http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/73851290/14

    "If He's the same as Sasuke, EXTERNAL attacks won't work on him, in that case I have to USE THE SAND UNDERNEATH HIS FEAT"

    The sand didn't good through... The manga explicitly states how sand was able to enter Susano.... and it wasn't from an OUTSIDE SOURCE... What was the foundation Madara was standing on??????????

    I let you figure that out...
     
  28. vagnard Active Member

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    Baku didn't work against Susano. Why Bansho Tenin should work?.

    It doesn't makes sense because every time we have seen Susano it has been anchored to the user.

    When Sasuke and Itachi jumped Susano moved along with them. Chibaku Tensei pulled Susano along Itachi. Baku couldn't suck Sasuke when Susano was anchored to the ground.
     
  29. bullsh3t Active Member

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    5 posts and op already banned :lmao
     
  30. The Fool Active Member

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    Lol, Jiraiya's Swamp of the Underworld would wreck Susanoo based upon this chapter.
     

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