If someone is disruptive only in one section, and otherwise is a positive influence in other places, then a section ban can make sense over a general forum ban. Not every staff member likes to use section bans instead of forum bans, and some like to use them as a lesser punishment. Some sections also have stricter or looser rules for behavior than others, whether you like it or not. In such a situation, it's not always appropriate to forum ban just because they're being banned from a section. Repeat offenders and disruptive posters with a history of not showing improvement when banned in the past will be given less leeway when they act out. As it should be. And when a person is warned over and over that their behavior is inappropriate, it doesn't matter what the final offense was that caused the ban button to be pressed, it's the overall judgment of the poster that is being handed out and that poster's history that is being taken into account. If you consistently walk the line so closely that you keep being warned and almost being banned, eventually your behavior is going to catch up to you, and whatever the post was that finally caught you is irrelevant. The Cafe is not the Blender. Wanting the ability to do and say whatever you want without facing any consequence is childish and not something you're going to get in the Cafe or anywhere outside that one place. There's nothing wrong with shadow's decision regarding Mael. And it wasn't just him making the decision, either. No one makes decisions like that alone, and no one does so lightly. It's easy to assume everyone is just a troll and thinks it's fun to ban people, but it couldn't be further from the truth. Most of this thread is just white noise, and it's getting old. I've been a member (member, not staff) of this forum longer than most, and there are a lot of problems on this site. However, the notion that the staff is the primary or even secondary among them is a tragic joke.