Discussion in 'One Piece Battledome Archive' started by Candy, Aug 2, 2010.
Marine ford with all the ice that was there on the ground.
No restrictions, who takes this?
Are they fighting on the frozen ocean?
Akainu due to showing feats to meld huge icebergs in seconds
Aokiji's fleet admiral.
No he isn't.
He's about to be, at least according to Sengoku he will.
Sengoku recommended him.
Akainu is probably gonna get confirmed as it, because the Gorousei are hardasses.
Akainu, it seems. Because his element ploughs straight through Aokiji's.
I wonder about that though. I mean that Ice block wasn't the full coldness of Aoi Kiji's Ice age. You should take into consideration the transfer of heat from one matter to the next, the fact that aoi Kiji's ice age froze ocean in seconds shows you how cold that attack was.
And it's not like that attack was a casual attack from Akainu either.
Yes, but I think Magma > Ice.
Akainu's element is just more powerful. I doubt Aokiji can actually freeze Akainu's magma that easily. But don't get me wrong, it's not a walk in the park for Akainu either. He'll have to go all out with Aokiji, but imo, he'll come out on top.
Think about it. Magma going into water turns it to stone, so what does that say a about a super cold attack?
If they fought on the frozen ocean floor it would be a different match completely.
Though that's why I said Akainu would have to go all out. Now that I think about it, Aokiji has amazing speed feats. He'll have Akainu on his toes. This is a tough match.
He should be around his fellow Admirals in terms of speed (well, except for when Kizaru becomes light), so he can probably keep up with Aokiji.
Unless Aokiji can freeze things at absolute zero Akainu should take this with some difficulty
why?...its not like he can manipulate the ice...
actually he can
This is basically battle of the elements here, but imo ice wins, i believe freezing magma is within aokijis abilities
Tough to call,
Akainu seems to have the superior DF, however, Aokiji should be able to freeze magma, no?
This is not a manga where the best DF user wins, is Aokiji superior when it comes down to h2h? Who knows.
It's really tough to call, I'll go with Akainu now, he was the only Admiral that actually killed a WB commander, took away half of WB's face, took two quake punches and was temporarily out, came back, defeated two Revolutionaries, Jimbei etcetera.
I really wanna say aokiji because of how cool he is with everything, but i think based on feats and hype akainu has the edge. If kiji can freeze to sub-zero levels though, he could very easily have the edge here.
akainu is fleeta dmiral sooooo.Plus he has his lazy justice and he's black. wait wut.
a logia has never shown to manipulate their element except for the masses they create themselves...
ace cant minipulate my bonfire
kizaru cant mipulate the light emitted from the sun
akainu cant control a volcano
and aokiji cannot minipulate the frozen sea
Well unless Aokiji can make his ice projectiles on a sub-zero temperature, it is going to useless since Akainu's magma would evaporate it instantly while still heading towards Aokiji.
I think it comes down to a hand to hand battle. I would say Akainu wins.
Probably because we haven't seen any of these events occur.
When have you seen Akainu near a volcano?
When have you seen Ace near a bonfire?
And Aokiji may have been near the frozen sea, but we haven't actually seen him manipulate the ice.
Where are you basing this from? Give me the manga chapter where it says logias can't control the masses of which their elements occur.
i onky used it as examples...no logia to this date has shown to be able to cnotrol their element except for the amounts created by themselves
and im basing it on feats
Still, saying that they can't when you have no actual proof is pretty baseless.
how do you proof they CANT?...they havent shown it,therefore until they are stated to can or shows it they simply cant
and you cant really prove they can either
I don't know if it counts, but I think Ace was able to manipulate the fire he caused during his battle with Blackbeard.
Also wasn't Enel able to manipulate the lightning from the sky?
Isn't the reason Croc's attacks were so deadly in the desert because of the extra sand?
^ Can't believe I forgot that.
that fire was aces own
and the lighning was made by maxim which is powerd by himself so its by extension his own
the only reason it was stringer cuz of more sand was because his own sand and the wind pics more sand up via centrifugal force...he even stated himself that when it reached a big enough mass of dessert sand he couldnt control it any more
yeah and we also see Kizaru constantly fighting in the sunlight Photosynthesis bitches
Croc can control sand, have you seen sables? Enough of this, logias can control their elements.
Wasn't Ao Kiji already confirmed to be the strongest Marine?
they can control the mass of their element they create themselves
sables clearly spawn from crocodiles palm
As far as we saw, Logias can control only the extract of their abilities.
If otherwise, Croc, Ace or Enel would've been much more destructive.
thats what i meant
Going with Akainu since his DF has shown to easily evaporate ice.
Look at these
"Theres no living being that can stand toe-to-toe with me in the desert"
its all his own powers
the first one is just spada cutting through sand...no big deal since sand is kinda easy to split
the second is just croc using his powers to find a river under the sand to create quick sand
and just because he says no living being cant stand toe to toe with him in the desert does not make it true...you seriously believe what he said?
I think he meant that if they fought on a frozen ocean, Akainu will drown if he uses his magma power to fight.
that could be true of course..and maybe aokiji could merge with the ice to hide
but akainu should be able to stand over the water some way..i mean...he didnt drown when downed by WB
Are you high? Exactly how high are you, right now?
Sand is filled with tons of minerals, its hard to cut.
He funneled the sand into the the river.
Whether or not thats true doesnt matter. He said that for a reason, reason being he can control sand.
none,,,im a little drunk though
but its not hard to split apart two sand fragments from eachother
which is all he did
which is apart of his own powers
he can merge with sand...that gives him and edge...but he cannot control the sand itself...if he could why did he have to transform his own arm into a spada when he could have "ordered" the sand itself to do it?
and croc is just an arrogant fuck
It all depends on how cold Aokiji can actually make things. Until we know that, I'd have to go with Akainu. His lava attacks easily burn through Aokiji's ice. Aokiji sublimates.
akainu wins this, aokiji is at an elemental disadvantage according to pokemon and common sense logic. aokiji can't freeze akainu.
Pokemon doesn't apply here , but common sense logic does . The point is I mostly agree.
well akainu can just melt aokijis ice. and aokiji wasnt nominated because he's stronger than the other 2.
I would tend to think Akainu has the advantage in DF, but then again if surrounded by water it might make it tough on Akainu. I'll give him the slight edge on this one.
akainu wins hands down.
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