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Akainu vs Aokiji

Discussion in 'One Piece Battledome Archive' started by Candy, Aug 2, 2010.

  1. Candy <i><b>?bermensch</i></b>

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    Marine ford with all the ice that was there on the ground.


    No restrictions, who takes this?
     
  2. Flame Emperor Banned

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    Are they fighting on the frozen ocean?
     
  3. crististar stfu

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    Akainu due to showing feats to meld huge icebergs in seconds;)
     
  4. Millennium Creed The Alpha and the Omega

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    So Akainu? :zaru

    Aokiji's fleet admiral.
     
  5. αce Puahah.

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    No he isn't.
     
  6. Millennium Creed The Alpha and the Omega

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    He's about to be, at least according to Sengoku he will.
     
  7. αce Puahah.

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    Sengoku recommended him.


    Akainu is probably gonna get confirmed as it, because the Gorousei are hardasses.
     
  8. Gspot El Capitan

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    Akainu, it seems. Because his element ploughs straight through Aokiji's.
     
  9. Canute87 Nuke Imminent

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    I wonder about that though. I mean that Ice block wasn't the full coldness of Aoi Kiji's Ice age. You should take into consideration the transfer of heat from one matter to the next, the fact that aoi Kiji's ice age froze ocean in seconds shows you how cold that attack was.

    And it's not like that attack was a casual attack from Akainu either.
     
  10. Flame Emperor Banned

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    Yes, but I think Magma > Ice.

    Akainu's element is just more powerful. I doubt Aokiji can actually freeze Akainu's magma that easily. But don't get me wrong, it's not a walk in the park for Akainu either. He'll have to go all out with Aokiji, but imo, he'll come out on top.
     
  11. Candy <i><b>?bermensch</i></b>

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    Think about it. Magma going into water turns it to stone, so what does that say a about a super cold attack?
     
  12. Sir Crocodile Banned

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    If they fought on the frozen ocean floor it would be a different match completely.
     
  13. Flame Emperor Banned

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    :hmm You're right....

    Though that's why I said Akainu would have to go all out. Now that I think about it, Aokiji has amazing speed feats. He'll have Akainu on his toes. This is a tough match. :hmm
     
  14. Bluebeard Classy Gent

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    Akainu .

    He should be around his fellow Admirals in terms of speed (well, except for when Kizaru becomes light), so he can probably keep up with Aokiji.
     
  15. Champagne Supernova Eagles Become Vultures

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    Unless Aokiji can freeze things at absolute zero Akainu should take this with some difficulty
     
  16. cry77 Dont rustle my Jimmies.

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    why?...its not like he can manipulate the ice...
     
  17. Candy <i><b>?bermensch</i></b>

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    actually he can
     
  18. Bungee Gum /

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    This is basically battle of the elements here, but imo ice wins, i believe freezing magma is within aokijis abilities
     
  19. Federer Active Member

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    Tough to call,

    Akainu seems to have the superior DF, however, Aokiji should be able to freeze magma, no?
    This is not a manga where the best DF user wins, is Aokiji superior when it comes down to h2h? Who knows.

    It's really tough to call, I'll go with Akainu now, he was the only Admiral that actually killed a WB commander, took away half of WB's face, took two quake punches and was temporarily out, came back, defeated two Revolutionaries, Jimbei etcetera.
     
  20. Phoenix Zoro First mate of Kaidou Pirates

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    I really wanna say aokiji because of how cool he is with everything, but i think based on feats and hype akainu has the edge. If kiji can freeze to sub-zero levels though, he could very easily have the edge here.
     
  21. Epudhaum Banned

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    akainu is fleeta dmiral sooooo.Plus he has his lazy justice and he's black. wait wut.
     
  22. cry77 Dont rustle my Jimmies.

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    a logia has never shown to manipulate their element except for the masses they create themselves...

    ace cant minipulate my bonfire

    kizaru cant mipulate the light emitted from the sun

    akainu cant control a volcano


    and aokiji cannot minipulate the frozen sea
     
  23. seastone A hidden

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    Well unless Aokiji can make his ice projectiles on a sub-zero temperature, it is going to useless since Akainu's magma would evaporate it instantly while still heading towards Aokiji.

    I think it comes down to a hand to hand battle. I would say Akainu wins.
     
  24. Millennium Creed The Alpha and the Omega

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    Probably because we haven't seen any of these events occur.

    When have you seen Akainu near a volcano?

    When have you seen Ace near a bonfire?

    And Aokiji may have been near the frozen sea, but we haven't actually seen him manipulate the ice.

    Where are you basing this from? Give me the manga chapter where it says logias can't control the masses of which their elements occur.
     
  25. cry77 Dont rustle my Jimmies.

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    i onky used it as examples...no logia to this date has shown to be able to cnotrol their element except for the amounts created by themselves



    and im basing it on feats
     
  26. Millennium Creed The Alpha and the Omega

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    Still, saying that they can't when you have no actual proof is pretty baseless.
     
  27. cry77 Dont rustle my Jimmies.

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    how do you proof they CANT?...they havent shown it,therefore until they are stated to can or shows it they simply cant

    and you cant really prove they can either :hurr
     
  28. Millennium Creed The Alpha and the Omega

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    I don't know if it counts, but I think Ace was able to manipulate the fire he caused during his battle with Blackbeard.

    Also wasn't Enel able to manipulate the lightning from the sky?
     
  29. αce Puahah.

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    Isn't the reason Croc's attacks were so deadly in the desert because of the extra sand?
     
  30. Millennium Creed The Alpha and the Omega

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    ^ Can't believe I forgot that.

    Reps.
     
  31. cry77 Dont rustle my Jimmies.

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    that fire was aces own

    and the lighning was made by maxim which is powerd by himself so its by extension his own
    the only reason it was stringer cuz of more sand was because his own sand and the wind pics more sand up via centrifugal force...he even stated himself that when it reached a big enough mass of dessert sand he couldnt control it any more
     
  32. Canute87 Nuke Imminent

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    yeah and we also see Kizaru constantly fighting in the sunlight Photosynthesis bitches :pimp
     
  33. Candy <i><b>?bermensch</i></b>

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    Croc can control sand, have you seen sables? Enough of this, logias can control their elements.
     
  34. 12hadoooo0 Active Member

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    Wasn't Ao Kiji already confirmed to be the strongest Marine?

    Spoiler:
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  35. cry77 Dont rustle my Jimmies.

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    they can control the mass of their element they create themselves

    sables clearly spawn from crocodiles palm
     
  36. 12hadoooo0 Active Member

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    As far as we saw, Logias can control only the extract of their abilities.

    If otherwise, Croc, Ace or Enel would've been much more destructive.
     
  37. cry77 Dont rustle my Jimmies.

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    thats what i meant :smoke
     
  38. Pink Matter More Than Human

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    Going with Akainu since his DF has shown to easily evaporate ice.
     
  39. Candy <i><b>?bermensch</i></b>

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    Look at these

    X
    X
    X

    "Theres no living being that can stand toe-to-toe with me in the desert"
     
  40. cry77 Dont rustle my Jimmies.

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    its all his own powers

    the first one is just spada cutting through sand...no big deal since sand is kinda easy to split

    the second is just croc using his powers to find a river under the sand to create quick sand


    and just because he says no living being cant stand toe to toe with him in the desert does not make it true...you seriously believe what he said?
     
  41. randomsurfer Ryu-san

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    I think he meant that if they fought on a frozen ocean, Akainu will drown if he uses his magma power to fight.
     
  42. cry77 Dont rustle my Jimmies.

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    that could be true of course..and maybe aokiji could merge with the ice to hide :hmm

    but akainu should be able to stand over the water some way..i mean...he didnt drown when downed by WB
     
  43. Candy <i><b>?bermensch</i></b>

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    Are you high? Exactly how high are you, right now?

    Sand is filled with tons of minerals, its hard to cut.

    He funneled the sand into the the river.

    Whether or not thats true doesnt matter. He said that for a reason, reason being he can control sand.
     
  44. cry77 Dont rustle my Jimmies.

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    none,,,im a little drunk though :hurr

    but its not hard to split apart two sand fragments from eachother
    which is all he did
    which is apart of his own powers

    he can merge with sand...that gives him and edge...but he cannot control the sand itself...if he could why did he have to transform his own arm into a spada when he could have "ordered" the sand itself to do it?

    and croc is just an arrogant fuck
     
  45. rattler Summoner of Reptillian Beasts

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    It all depends on how cold Aokiji can actually make things. Until we know that, I'd have to go with Akainu. His lava attacks easily burn through Aokiji's ice. Aokiji sublimates.
     
  46. ajinko pirate hunter

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    akainu wins this, aokiji is at an elemental disadvantage according to pokemon and common sense logic. aokiji can't freeze akainu.
     
  47. rattler Summoner of Reptillian Beasts

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    Pokemon doesn't apply here :mad, but common sense logic does :). The point is I mostly agree.
     
  48. redx2099 Banned

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    well akainu can just melt aokijis ice. and aokiji wasnt nominated because he's stronger than the other 2.
     
  49. Nic .

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    I would tend to think Akainu has the advantage in DF, but then again if surrounded by water it might make it tough on Akainu. I'll give him the slight edge on this one.
     
  50. tigersage TIGER VIZARD SAGE

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    akainu wins hands down.
     

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