Discussion in 'Konoha Library' started by PoinT_BlanK, Mar 14, 2012.
So erm, yeah, no one's defeating Madara.
was there even any doubt
Susanoo is overrated. Rinnegan is the real threat!
yea 25 Susanoos +25 wood clones+shared sight
Yeah.And Mokuton.Susano already got broken multiple times.
Shit, I forgot about the shared vision.
but i didnt.
for years i claimed that should a Rinnegan user get to use clones he would be an absolute monster.(clones not corpses).
i always claimed that kishi held back Nagato from using clones even though the shared sight was meant to be used with clones.
and now the day has come to finally show the shared sight true use in battle.
It took two people (Kages mind you) working in collaboration just to break one..
Except those weren't fully formed susanos. And Madara clearly puts the emphasis on susano being the threat since he asks the kage "can I use it or is it too much?"
Rinnegan is overkill.
every chapter madara manages to take it to a higher level.
Madara: Cake or death? (The cake is a lie.)
Uchiha Madara's Capitalism equasion.
1. Harvest eyes for EMS/RIN'NEGAN
2. Harvest hashirama dna for Rikudou mode+Gardener of eden mode.
3. Start fightan
4. Use Tajuu mokuton no jutsu (First off... Oh shit. Regenerating clones made of wood!)
5. Use Gedou no jutsu. (Shared vision)
6.Use Preta path.
What does this mean? Well, Each clone is a gedou (IE, USES ALL PATHS INDIVIDUALLY), Yet is controlled by gedou no jutsu, giving them all a hive mind. This means each will know which one is best suited to use Preta's path.
It also means that so long as they have chakra, they can regenerate, AND so long as they absorb ninjutsu, they have chakra.
In short, depending on the fight, any given clone may end up with more chakra than original madara started out with, and each has the capacity to use every single one of his jutsu.
25 clones= 25 rikudou.
Each one is a gedou, has MS, and has mokuton. jeezus fucking christ... Add in the fact that if one is empowered more than original madara, that one can summon 25 more clones, and so on and so forth.
That is why it is capitalism.
R.Madara divides himself by 25. Those 25 divide themselves by 25. That 25 go on and absorb the lives of 25 and divide themselves by 25, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
Madara= Cancer. As in he will spread and end your life.
That makes sense. But I thought Madara kept going up and down in his power.
He will just have to fight 25 or 26 Naruto in Sennin Bijuu Mode.
can't be helped any longer. kages need summons to even last a bit longer.
shared vision yes but 25 susanoo no
he probably doesn't have the stamina for that
hence why he said susanoo or kage bunshin
Itachi will defeat Madara. Well, indirectly.
he asked them if they want to clones to use susanoo or not.
he never said one or the other.
where did u read the chapter?
i read it from mangareader and it says or. rather it implies one or the other not both
Madara clones>Naruto clones.
he said: "do you prefer the clones to use Susanoo or not?"
thats the exact statment.
so yea it clearly implies that each clone can use his own Susanoo.
I forgot to ask, do people still believe that Itachi and Sasuke are on Madara's level? I recall being called a troll last week because I said that I put Madara above anyone else currently in the cast and that right now Sasuke was only on his way to match Madara as he was before he got Hashirama's power and the Rinnegan.
@vered ok i clearly im reading it from an unreliable source
please post the correct translated page
on mangareader he seems to say 25 clones OR susanoo not saying he could do both at the same time
i think it was obvious ever since he summoned the meteors.
do you have a reading problem?he dosent say or.he said the exact statement i wrote above and of course i can bring other translations as well like takl and shounensuki but 2ch users comments also confirmed that each clone can use Susanoo from the japanese script.
To me as well, but apparently a large part of NF was until last week still thinking otherwise. So I'm wondering if this chapter changed their opinion.
You're trolling right?
I don't think there's anyone on madara's level.
If I find it plausible they could defeat him? Yeah.
Specially now that the kages will be busy with his clones I can see kabuto summoning the original to potentially fight the uchiha bros. You don't necessarily need to be on someone's level to defeat them. Specially considering Sasuke's ems will have its own haxxorz and itachi is good at adapting and coming up with strategies.
It would be a long shot but still a shot.
vered you were negged for lack of reading skills
i wasn't arguing with you i only said where i read it seemed to imply it was one or the other not both
This shows that the clones are not just lol fodder. Beating his clones are not a cake walk.His clones are tough. We already knew clones can use the Jutsu of the user, after making 25 he can still use Susanoo with them is something special.
i can say the same.i already answered you about the topic but either you are trolling or you lack reading skills as its the only explanation for your posts.
so what website did you read the chapter on?
im sure ive asked that before.
but in any case. you will be ignored soon enough seeing as you are pointlessly rude
i never said it was impossible, i just said it wasn't explicitly said and you haven't shown me otherwise
Kabuto should be above Madara. Not only he can control him and can summon whoever he wants... he also is capable to face EMS Sasuke and MS Itachi at the same time on his own.
I'd put Tobi with Gedo Mazo and 6 bijuus above Madara too... and probably FBM Naruto would be there too if it wasn't for Madara's regeneration and the 5 minute limit.
I don't think anyone thinks that Itachi and sasuke are on his level, but to think that they couldnt pull off a victory somehow is pretty stupid. Madara is the strongest guy going right now I think....but i'd give them a long shot at pulling out a win. Unlike the Kages, they at least have some tools to be weary of.
So then my choice is: or death?
this is my last post to you.
i showed you the exact statement and its your problem if you cant comprehend whats written, not mine.
funny that you are claiming i am rude when it was you who negged me rudely.
but dont worry im not a person to neg another person over an argument or a conversation.(conveniently your reputation is disabled but even if it wasnt my point still stands)
i have nothing else to say to you on the matter.
wasn't madara's statement implying either they fight him as one with his susano'o or each kage vs 5 madaras without susano'o?
ok here is Yagami trans from the spoiler thread:
should clear all doubts but later ill ask shounensuki and takl as well.
No, Kabuto shouldn't be since I was talking about fighting skills and not about the current chain of command. Kabuto can't hold a candle to Madara. That's fact. Madara is many times as strong as Kabuto.
You do that. I'm pretty sure we already argued that point and I concluded that nothing short of Tobi's death and Madara's elevation to final villain will convince you otherwise anyways.
i don't know anymore but i finally got a better trans
and yes it seems he can use susanoo with his clones as well
i hope he doesn't otherwise
the kages are gonna have to be able to break through it. otherwise they will die very quickly
Read my reply again. Still applies and anyone can tell it was DO instead of TO that should have been there but whatever.
Regardless, the whole worlds fucked until naruto ascends to rikkodou because madara is a god damned hacker.
I wonder what the kages are going to do about it now.
the you was supposed to be use.
yh he is the black plague to haxxed for these old century folk
susanoo is overrated because itachi spoiled us with its introduction.....i'm starting to believe that the only way itachi survived kirin was because of yata mirror. so far we've seen other susanoos break and melted and breached....except itachi's.....
/thread madara has been made a beast. why kish why?
igalt i never understood why people over rate it when the DB makes it clear that its yata mirror and totsuka sword that make it invincible.
Where's RM naruto clones when we need them...aarrgh!
not disagreeing...just not getting the fact that people are getting hard ons just because madara proclaiming his wood clones can use susanoo =====>oh wait, hard on=wood ======nevermind, lol.
Asking for BCM kage bunshin to fight madara is a death wish. They are wholly made of Kyuubi's chakra. Madara would eat them for breakfast.
ITT: People not knowning Vered, and how awesome she is And denying madara's swag-chakra. It's strong.
Oh we knew they were fucked, it just doesn't help that Madara keeps trolling.
All of them using Susano'o?
If they will also have shared vision, shit's gonna be ridiculous.
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