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Discussion in 'Nanatsu no Taizai' started by ℜai, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:24 AM.

  1. ℜai 노블레스

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  2. FKS Active Member

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    Here's the TL:
    Spoiler:
    Pic 1:
    Indura, the embodiment of destruction!!!!
    It only lives in the demon world and is the legendary beast feared and abhorred even by the inhabitants themselves…

    Exactly… Those figures come from the high-ranked demons releasing their true nature by offering six of their seven hearts as sacrifices and forming a contract with the darkness.
    However, if one individual does not possess the power level of over 50,000, they will not withstand the transformation and die!!

    Pic 2:
    …but this is the end.



    N…
    No way. Hmm.

    Pic 3:
    Guh…
    Hah…

    *Stare…*

    Pic 5:
    Inconceivable…!

    Taking on the Four Archangels…

    Ehi…

    Pic 6:
    Elizabeth… it's alright now.
    …Meliodas.

    I'm sorry. …I… haven't realized anything,
    I couldn't stop anything… I couldn't do anything…

    You didn't do anything wrong in the slightest…
    And I'll take care of it-

    Pic 7:
    No… I can't let you get harmed all the time…

    Elizabeth!!

    You wish to fight till the bitter end? Interesting… then I too, in the name of the Four Archangels-
    Back off.

    Q/A corner:
    Q198: Ramuda-san (Kumamoto Prefecture): Back when Meliodas got killed by Estarossa, why didn't the Pacifism decree activate?
    Nakaba: The Ten Commandments aren't affected to any decree other than their own.

    Pic 8:
    I'm going to stop you.

    Center text: She risks her life. If it means cutting off the suffering.
    Margin text: Elizabeth stands in front of a wild beast intent to kill! She will not give up on a bloodless peace!
    Bottom text: To be continued in chapter 208 / Elizabeth vs. Indura.
     
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  3. alekos23 Well-Known Member

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    That's some cheeky butt saving there with Pacifism, Nakaba. :doge

    Good job. :haha
     
  4. Dr. White Smell nice? it's Moonflower

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    It was like that before as Fraudrin went to kill Plaeides right in front of GR.
     
  5. Handsome Yak gefühlvoll und sanft.

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    Now we finally have some confirmation. The Ten Commandments can only be affected by their own decree, not by each other's.

    Which raises an interesting question - was Merlin perhaps once one of them? When she pronounced her true name, it was a character that didn't resemble anything like japanese, it was made-up glyph crap. Much like demon lingu incantations, or, as we see in this spoiler, whatever monster-Monspiet says to activate this mass explosion. Did Merlin speak in old demon lingu? Is/was she once an Indura beast as well?

    Gee. But not to let this overshadow the chapter's events, looks like Elizabeth is, once again, tired of being useless on the sidelines. Great. I always loved when she wanted to get into the thick too, anyone saying she is just a damsel in distress is so utterly wrong. And that mass explosion must have contained an immense amount of power, considering two archangels were burned to a crisp and even Meliodas' arms as well. Those Indura beasts are ridiculous. At least Nakaba built in sufficient limiters so not the entirety of the 10C can do that.
     
  6. FKS Active Member

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    Monspiet's line looks like a scribble or glyph as you say while Merlin's is a bunch of strokes drawn in different directions.
    Perhaps different languages? Or was it through different vocal chords?
     
  7. Onyx Darkmatter Giant Sexy Mermaid

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    >"Nakaba: The Ten Commandments aren't affected to any decree other than their own."

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  8. Handsome Yak gefühlvoll und sanft.

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    Well, if you look at latin characters, or virtually any other characters, there are drastic differences between them. If there is a whole demon language with a letter system based around, it wouldn't be all that surprising. It could be different vocal chords, I doubt it is a different language unless the goddesses also have their own language but so far nothing hinted at it. If anything, what the druids speak likely came from the goddess clan but we have never seen different characters for them even though their language sounds nothing like the "common speech" of the characters in this series.

    I think it is the same lanague Monspiet and Merlin use.
     
  9. Handsome Yak gefühlvoll und sanft.

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    How is that shit, it was among the fan theories for the longest time now.
     
  10. Marcusx8 Member

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    How is that shit think about it all the Demons/except Estarossa have hate in their heart because of what happen 3000 year ago but they are not affected by Estarossa Commandment. What about Fraudrin trying 2 kill Denzel & them right in front of Graylord, or Estarossa killing Meliodas right in front of Graylord and don't give me that it because Meliodas & them didn't die because if that was the case Monspeet, Fraudrin & Derrière wouldn't be surprise Meliodas is still alive. Not 2 mention Derrière killed humans right by Graylord when she ate their souls.
     
  11. Palm Siberia Ice Queen

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    Did two of the Archangels just get one one-shotted? :skully :bookerskully :gokuskully
     
  12. Thdyingbreed Rampaging Beast

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    Well this does explain why Estarossa wasn't effected by Gray Road's commandment when he killed Meliodas.
     
  13. The Saiyan Prince Vegeta Well-Known Member

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    Nakaba's taking a page out of Mashima's book on how to hype up your characters just to completely shit on them one chapter later. Really hoping the two other Archangels aren't done.

    At least we have confirmation that Estarossa can undergo the indura transformation. That most certainly warrants another fight with Escanor.
     
  14. alekos23 Well-Known Member

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    Dunno, I feel like Indura might actually inflict his Commandment onto himself. :catthinks

    Would be funny if it rendered him less OP but sane.Mel resisted the effects. :distracted
     
  15. Hypershock Crispy Asf

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    So Sariel and Tarmiel got oneshotted:catcry
     
  16. Marcusx8 Member

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    Mel resisted the effects what do you mean by that
     
  17. alekos23 Well-Known Member

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    When he met with daddy, he mentioned that Mel was under both Zeldris's and Estarossa's commandments, didn't he?
     
  18. Marcusx8 Member

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    Oh I thought you was talking about something else.
     
  19. Cisz -in a daze-

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    Indura broke af but at least it has limitations.
     
  20. Akira1993 Well-Known Member

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    Meliodas didn't resist the effect of any commandment, when he get affected by charity, he lost his strength and can't hold his sword anymore, same with piety, it was already too late for him. That is why he had to die to be free.
    Glad Nakaba confirmed why Estarossa wasn't affected by pacifism, same with Fraudin cool.
     
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  21. Akira1993 Well-Known Member

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    Indura is broken indeed but as I suspected last week, only the top 5 Demons including the Demon King can do it since their PLs are above 50000 and they have 7 hearts ( need 6 hearts as sacrifice to perform the ritual to the Darkness ).
    Well, Goddess Elizabeth will die here or Meliodas will protect here at the last minute after a decent fight since the title next week imply that.
     
  22. Akira1993 Well-Known Member

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  23. NoticemeEscanorsenpai Japan's national treasure

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    Bwhahaha Elizabeth vs Indura.

    Is Nakaba planning to fodderize Indura so soon? :maybe
    Or maybe Elizabeth will get killed? :hm

    Also that TC plot armor.:skully
     
  24. Akira1993 Well-Known Member

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    Meliodas's regeneration rate is ridiculous, he already regenerated in the next page prior to his injury.
     
  25. alekos23 Well-Known Member

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    Eli will probably try to heal their hearts or something.Figuratively and literally. :doge
     
  26. RavenSupreme Well-Known Member

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    People thinking the archangels are down for good :skully
     
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  27. Akira1993 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah likely which will lead to this : X
     
  28. LordPerucho Well-Known Member

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    That puts Escanor around Archangel level at least :laugh.
     
  29. Dr. White Smell nice? it's Moonflower

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    Looks more like a two shot. Guessing Derriere got them to the floor and then Monspiet held them down as there is a page missing in the spoilers. They did pretty well vs Multiple commandments though.
     
  30. Onyx Darkmatter Giant Sexy Mermaid

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    It just doesn't seem logical to my perspective, ability-wise. Immune to other Commandments, but not immune to your own Commandment? I don't know, just doesn't add up.
    I get where your going; at least it does explain why he other Commandments aren't affected by their comrades' curses.
     
  31. Handsome Yak gefühlvoll und sanft.

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    How is it ilogical? Fighting as a group is literally impossible if they could all be affected by each other's Commandment.
     
  32. Dr. White Smell nice? it's Moonflower

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    The curse is a conceptual spell. There is no direct link between say lying and being turned to stone. The demon King grants these powers with the ironic clause that they themselves can be affected by their own power. Sort of the "price to pay" troupe and especially fitting to a commandment theme. The function of not having others in the group be affected could be because any 1 commandment is already being affected by a curse (sorta like how a manipulator in HxH can't control someone being manipulated already), or simply something the Demon King added to the stipulations in order to increase team synergy.
     
  33. Onyx Darkmatter Giant Sexy Mermaid

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    I was using the "One for All, All for One" logic where it's either none of the Commandments gets affected by the curse, or all of them are affected. Just didn't liked the idea that "I'm immune to my comrade's curse, except my own Decree".
    But nonetheless, at the very least, it did patched up a plot hole regarding to how their Commandments work.

    I see. So it's more about preventing Hypocrisy, one of the worst kinds of sins. That seems fair, I guess.
     
  34. Handsome Yak gefühlvoll und sanft.

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    Well, it IS a gift made by the king to his most trusted fighters after all. Those who betray the power bestowed upon them by violating the rules of their inherent decree nature absolutely deserve to fall victim to it. It's strangely fair, coming from the demon clan and all.
     
  35. Blade Well-Known Member

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    Indura Mel is gonna be a fucking savage
     
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    I am surprised to see a Portuguese Brazilian scan before a English, since English scans tend to be released faster than Brazilians scans.

    Since I'm Brazilian I can read it fine.
     
  38. ℜai 노블레스

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  39. NoticemeEscanorsenpai Japan's national treasure

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    Don't think I can read Portuguese, or just barely.

    But if you do find a Spanish scan next time don't hesitate to post it. :)
     
  40. NoticemeEscanorsenpai Japan's national treasure

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    Lol it's so weird to see them use "sama" in Portuguese. It's better to translate it to Senhor/Senhora. :3

    Also it's not Indra. To get Indra it would have to be written "Indora" in Japanese. But here it's clearly Indura.
     
  41. Kellogem Well-Known Member

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    can the bishounen sly angel have blander fighting style like that? he was trying to use the same basic-ass laser for like the third time and nothing else. but all the angels has this vanilla DBZ fighting style.

    was expecting the other 2 to get taken out, it is a surprise they still at one piece, was expecting them to clearly get killed.

    nice feats from the commandments, too bad they had to buff themselves up for it with a one time sacrificeand they are pretty meh in base..

    would have loved to see Meras Indra but figure she is not over 50 000.. but even dying as a side effect would've been better than how she was killed by Ban. same for Galan, but he had his own (underwhelming) transformation.
     
  42. LordPerucho Well-Known Member

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    If Elizabeth had Liz personality, I wouldve completely looked forward to her fighting Derriere.

    I guess next chapter is when Elizabeth dies right after she seals the commandments?
     
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    Elizabeth being a piece of shit again.
     
  45. Kellogem Well-Known Member

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    when I think about how there was a time Fraudrin had this evil mastermind vibes..

    now he is the chump fodder Commandment
     
  46. Onyx Darkmatter Giant Sexy Mermaid

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    To be fair, wasn't it stated that Fraudrin was just a "Representative" of the OG Commandment?
     
  47. Akira1993 Well-Known Member

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    this indura mode is serious stuff. they are fodderizing 3 of the archangels without much effort. archangels better have a special form themselves, otherwise they will be a huge disappointment.
     
  49. Zhen Chan Silver Spoon Coon Hoe

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    Indura is a pretty shitty trade off

    Lose 6/7ths of your life for a temporary power boost

    They must have been 100% sure they were gonna die.
     
  50. Akira1993 Well-Known Member

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    One thing always bothered me since forever. It is confirmed by Nakaba himself that the last part of his manga, the main villains will be the Goddess Clan or it was the fans who made that assumption ?
    The first part of the manga, thanks to Hendy's plan, we knew that there was a possibility to see the Demon Clan in the future, because we had someone behind the scene working of bringing them back but what about the Goddess Clan ? I don't see anyone shouting in the present time : " It's time to resuscitate the Goddess Clan or I have to bring back the Goddess Clan " Zero moments like that.
    I think it would be better for Nakaba to make new villains that no one never saw ( not even by a fossil like the MC ).
    That is what this manga need for his last part after the Demon Clan, a danger that is far from being predictable, a danger not in the scale of Britannia, but to the whole planet itself. ( typically shonen battle manga route at the end of their run ).
     

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