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Old 09-08-2013, 11:18 AM   #1
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Hundreds of thousands of Catalans will unite to create a 400-kilometre (250-mile) human chain on September 11, part of a spectacular campaign for independence fiercely opposed by Madrid.

Some 400,000 people aim to join hands along the entire coastline of the northeastern region of Catalonia to demand an historic redrawing of the map of Spain.

The protest is being organised by Catalan separatists on the region's national day, or Diada, which recalls the final defeat of Catalan troops by Spanish King Philip V's forces in 1714.

Although the event is tagged the "The Catalan Way Towards Independence", the route faces a major roadblock in the form of the Spanish government.

Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy's right-leaning administration refuses to countenance a breakup of Spain, and has vowed to block a referendum on self-rule that Catalan president Artur Mas has promised for 2014.

In a sign of its determination, Madrid called on the Constitutional Court to strike down the region's latest attempt to assert itself: a parliamentary declaration of sovereignty in January.

The court agreed to hear the case, meaning the declaration is suspended until it makes a ruling.

Proud of their distinct language and culture, yet suffering in Spain's recession, many of the 7.5 million people in debt-laden Catalonia resent seeing their taxes redistributed to other parts of the country.

Catalonia has a jobless rate of 23.85 percent -- lower than the national average of 26.26 percent but still painfully high -- and a public debt of 50.9 billion euros ($67 billion).

The region had to go cap in hand to Madrid in January to ask for 9.07 billion euros ($11.9 billion) from a fund to help debt-laden regions.

Hundreds of thousands of people joined in a huge national day rally last year as Catalan separatist stirrings were stoked by the cuts to health and education services.

Yet a year later their aspirations remain frustrated.

Just days before the Diada, Catalonia's political chief seemed to cast doubt on the 2014 referendum in a radio interview.

The 2014 poll would be organised respecting the law and with the agreement of Spanish government, Mas said, adding that such support was unlikely.

If Madrid refused to relent, Catalans could use regional government elections scheduled for 2016 as an alternative form of plebiscite, he argued.

But the next day Mas insisted that the 2014 referendum would go ahead "one way or the other".

Catalans, who have a reputation as impeccable organisers, say the human chain will pass through 86 cities, towns and villages over more than 400 km.

A total 350,000 people have so far signed up for the chain in Catalonia, according to the latest update by the organisers, the Catalan National Assembly.

About 5,000 volunteers will help run the protest. Some 1,500 buses will help move protesters into position.

Police will deploy 4,000 officers including in the regional capital Barcelona, where anti-independence protesters calling for Spanish unity are also seeking permission to rally.

Catalan activists say they are organising 110 smaller human chains in advance of September 11, with rallies in Australia, Africa, Asia, including one at the Great Wall of China, and the Americas.

The protest is an attempt to emulate the 1989 Baltic Way chain that called for the independence of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania during the breakup of the Soviet Union.

"There are big countries and small countries in the world, some industrialised and some not, and they all survive," said economics professor Antonio Argandona of the IESE Business School in Barcelona.

"So, can Catalonia survive? Yes, in the sense that it has a sufficiently solid economy to find its way," he said, warning however that it would still carry a price.

"It all depends on how a possible independence with Madrid is negotiated."

Mas has said he supports the protest but will not join in himself, out of respect for his role as political leader of all Catalans, including those that want to remain part of Spain.
http://news.yahoo.com/catalans-rally...054751713.html

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Old 09-08-2013, 11:26 AM   #2
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The number of countries in the world has been increasing since World War 2, as past empires crumble into smaller and smaller pieces. We'll see where it stops.

Over time maybe current countries will continue to disintegrate until most major ethnic groups all have their own country.

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Old 09-08-2013, 11:32 AM   #3
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I wish them the best of luck.

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Old 09-08-2013, 11:33 AM   #4
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I fully expect the Catalan Countries, Galicia and the Basque Country to get independence sometime in the near future, especially if the other independence movements are empowered by Catalonia leaving.

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Old 09-08-2013, 11:33 AM   #5
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When I get home I wanna start a "Hälsingland Independence Party" and fight for my province's independence from Sweden!

I'm sure it would be a hit.

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And how many of the small countries survive to the point they are not pawns of the bigger nations who will use their influence and clout to try to make said smaller nations to do their bidding. Whether it is put in military base or favourable trade deals in which the larger nation rips off the smaller.

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And how many of the small countries survive to the point they are not pawns of the bigger nations who will use their influence and clout to try to make said smaller nations to do their bidding. Whether it is put in military base or favourable trade deals in which the larger nation rips off the smaller.
Coincidentally, I approve of the development of these new future puppet states for Murika. Dance, puppets! Dance!

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Old 09-12-2013, 07:12 AM   #8
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400,000 person human chain stretching 250 miles for Catalan independence

Hundreds of thousands of Catalans joined hands to form a human chain stretching 250 miles across the Mediterranean coast of the north-eastern region to demand independence from the rest of Spain.


Activists calling for the independance of Catalonia take part in a 'human chain' during a protest in Perthus, southern France Photo: RAYMOND ROIG/AFP

The mass protest on Catalonia's National Day by people dressed in yellow and waving the regional flag demonstrated the strength of an Independence movement that is demanding a Scottish-style referendum.

A poll released on Wednesday showed that 52 per cent of Catalans would vote to breakaway from Madrid and form a separate Catalan state.

A deep recession and cuts in public spending in Catalonia, a wealthy industrial region that accounts for a fifth of Spain's economic output, have stirred discontent with the central government in Madrid.

The human chain stretched from the French border in the Pyrenees to the border with the neighbouring region of Valenica in the south.

Some 400,000 had registered to take part in advance of the event but organisers claim 1.6 million eventually joined the human chain in Catalonia.

Protesters called for a date to be set for the a referendum on independence, a pledge that regional President Artur Mas gave when he won power in elections last November.

"We need to put an end to the economic and cultural suffocation we are suffering," said Carme Forcadell, president of the Catalan National Assembly, the grass-roots organisation that called the protest.

"We have come to the streets in our hundreds of thousands to show in a democratic and inclusive way that we are capable of achieving any aim," she told crowds assembled in Barcelona.

The central government in Madrid has vowed to block any referendum on independence arguing that it would be unconstitutional.

Speaking ahead of the demonstration Mr Mas confirmed that he had been in talks with Spain's prime minister and was committed to dialogue with Madrid.

"We do not want a traumatic separation from Spain," he said.
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And how many of the small countries survive to the point they are not pawns of the bigger nations who will use their influence and clout to try to make said smaller nations to do their bidding. Whether it is put in military base or favourable trade deals in which the larger nation rips off the smaller.
This is why we keep an eye on this. We already own a part of Catalonia.

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