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Old 06-30-2013, 09:10 PM   #1
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The Power of the King is a heavy burden, but just how heavy is it?
What would happen if Lelouch received a Void Genome and Shu received Geass instead of their own Powers of the King?

Assume Shu's Geass is identical to Lelouch's, and that the people of Code Geass have coincidentally the same voids that the people of Guilty Crown do.

Can they achieve their respective goals (i.e. Obliteration of GHQ/Britannia) with this power?

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Old 06-30-2013, 09:17 PM   #2
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Lelouch wouldn't be a damn pussy about it and actually has his intelligence to fall back on. It'd take time but yeah he could do it. Shuu on the other hand has absolutely nothing. The only thing he'd probably be able to do is spam telling people to die (which he wouldn't do, especially not off the bat) which wouldn't get him far the moment someone in a knightmare frame shows up and steps on him.

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I think Shu could do a bit better than that, I mean, he's not an idiot, if he gets infront of a GHQ he can do SOME damage, it's just a matter of what exactly he tells them to do...
And is it really necessary to neg me for making a Guilty Crown thread? Come on, now.

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Old 06-30-2013, 11:29 PM   #4
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Was Shu bad throughout GC? I gave up when he started acting like Shinji.

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Shu was incompetent and a bad leader. Without his power he was nothing.

Lelouch will do much better with The Power of the King due to being much more intelligent, smarter, manipulative, confident, and braver.

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Old 07-01-2013, 12:26 AM   #6
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I think Shu could do a bit better than that, I mean, he's not an idiot, if he gets infront of a GHQ he can do SOME damage, it's just a matter of what exactly he tells them to do...
And is it really necessary to neg me for making a Guilty Crown thread? Come on, now.
I'd do it again but I need to spread


And yes Shu was an idiot. Thats exactly what he was

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Old 07-01-2013, 06:58 AM   #7
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I think Shu could do a bit better than that, I mean, he's not an idiot, if he gets infront of a GHQ he can do SOME damage, it's just a matter of what exactly he tells them to do...
Yes, he very much is.
Introverted, naive and easily controlled.
I can see him accidentally ordering some GHQ soldiers to die due to plot contrivance (the only driving force of his, being the ragdoll of the author).
And then angst for 3 episodes because these powers are wrong and he just killed people.

Lelouch's Geass is useful only in the right hands. Someone needs to be intelligent and savvy enough to abuse it.
Thoughtlessly ordering people around would just draw the attention on you.

On the other hand I suppose Lelouch would be fairly glad to receive the Genome powers.
He'd essentially be like Zero from the Nightmare of Nunally manga.
A frontline leader who can pretty much punch out Knightmares and fight the Lancelot to a draw.

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Old 07-01-2013, 07:03 AM   #8
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He might need to do something about his low stamina or just work around it as usual

Shu having a breakdown is a viable outcome

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Old 07-01-2013, 07:11 AM   #9
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Shuu wasn't really athletic, either.
Especially not in the beginning. I remember he even had a training arc where Shuu couldn't even keep up with the girl with wheelchairs.
Yet he had no issues with jumping around and dodging bullets/missiles once his special mode activated.

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Is Shu doomed? Even with Funeral Parlor doing his thinking for him?

And supersoldier Zero sounds awesome.

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Old 07-01-2013, 05:32 PM   #11
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He'll last a few episodes. But with something like the Geass, he'll make himself out as a tyrant and get overthrown and killed quicker than when he had the PoK.
Lelouch could probably pull it off.

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Old 07-01-2013, 05:41 PM   #12
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Few episodes. Pfft he'd barely make it to Clovis' bedroom

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Old 07-01-2013, 06:42 PM   #13
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Yes, he very much is.
Introverted, naive and easily controlled.
I can see him accidentally ordering some GHQ soldiers to die due to plot contrivance (the only driving force of his, being the ragdoll of the author).
And then angst for 3 episodes because these powers are wrong and he just killed people.

Lelouch's Geass is useful only in the right hands. Someone needs to be intelligent and savvy enough to abuse it.
Thoughtlessly ordering people around would just draw the attention on you.

On the other hand I suppose Lelouch would be fairly glad to receive the Genome powers.
He'd essentially be like Zero from the Nightmare of Nunally manga.
A frontline leader who can pretty much punch out Knightmares and fight the Lancelot to a draw.



i never read Nightmare but I saw the design before in a bookstore. Was it at all good and was that actually lelushoe?

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Old 07-01-2013, 07:00 PM   #14
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He is.
When putting on the Zero costume, Lelouch in Nightmare of Nunally is like fully doped on steroids.
And yes, he punches out Knightmares and in the end fights the Knight of the One in a fist fight.
While both of them are standing on top of their flying Knightmare Frames. Apparently those are only good for being mobile platforms.

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Destroys 60% of an army of KMFs, stomps Cornelia and her royal guard and then defeats Suzaku's Lancelot on foot. Practically soloed the entire Britannian army and made them rout there.

Yeah, Lelouch is going to love Shuu's powers.


EDIT:
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Oh well, remembered it wrong.
But Lelouch will do similarly insane shits later.
Like that aerial boxing match against the Knight of the One.
Nightmare of Nunnally was practically made for people who watched the original Code Geass.
And shock them with these over-the-top presentations.
Otherwise it's basically like a fighting shounen manga (usually) with mechs.
Geass is a bona fide superpower source here.

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How strong are Endlaves compared to Knightmare Frames?
They definitely seem weaker, but were there ever any calcs? I mean The Void Sword especially seems awesome, but how would it fair against Code Geass robots?

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Against ordinary Kngthmares the result would be about the same.
Against super prototypes like the Lancelot it'll be far tougher.
Shuu for example would lack the speed to keep up with EoS monsters like the Lancelot Albion.
Firepower and shields would also become an increasing problem.
The strongest Knightmare Frames are like mini Gundams.

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Ah nightmare of Nunnally. Should have been the original story .

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