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Old 06-10-2013, 11:03 PM   #1
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-Itachi is alive, but he's healthy (think Edo Tensei minus the unlimited stamina) and his eyesight is good.
-Itachi may use three-tomoe Sharingan, two kunai, and his Taijutsu. Nothing else.
-Jiraiya and Orochimaru are both restricted to Taijutsu in their base forms.
-Orochimaru cannot pull body pieces back together with snakes.
-Orochimaru may use his body-stretching ability.



Under these conditions, who takes it?


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Old 06-10-2013, 11:04 PM   #2
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Orochimaru solo's with absolute ease given his new Edo Tensei feats. Restrict Edo Tensei, make Itachi edo, and take away Oro's arms, than it's almost a fair fight.

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Old 06-10-2013, 11:05 PM   #3
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Orochimaru solo's with absolute ease given his new Edo Tensei feats. Restrict Edo Tensei, make Itachi edo, and take away Oro's arms, than it's almost a fair fight.
1. Itachi is a lot stronger than Orochimaru, so no.

2. Read the restrictions before you post.

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Current Orochimaru should have Kabuto's abilities but I'm not sure where people stand on that; if so, then he could possibly solo.

J-Man and Oro could take it. Yomi Numa for Susano'o and they should be able to overpower him with teamwork.

EDIT: Read some of the restrictions. Don't think Itachi can take them with regular genjutsu.

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Old 06-10-2013, 11:18 PM   #5
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Current Orochimaru should have Kabuto's abilities but I'm not sure where people stand on that; if so, then he could possibly solo.

J-Man and Oro could take it. Yomi Numa for Susano'o and they should be able to overpower him with teamwork.

EDIT: Read some of the restrictions. Don't think Itachi can take them with regular genjutsu.
Since reading the match conditions is apparently too much to expect of people, I'm putting them in large, red, bolded font.

Let's see if that makes a difference.

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Old 06-10-2013, 11:27 PM   #6
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Next person to even mention Ninjutsu or Genjutsu in this thread is getting a big, fat, steaming neg from me.

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Old 06-10-2013, 11:37 PM   #7
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Um they die.

Edo Itachi's Taijutsu feats mean keeping up with Kyuubi-Naruto hand to hand, and he's plenty fast enough to avoid being overwhelmed by flickering out of combat and taking a new approach.

But you armed Itachi, and restricted Orochimaru's regeneration. This means Itachi eviscerates them in a double-fisted cyclone of metal death. Itachi against Orochimaru is like Gohan vs. Buu, only Gohan has a sword and Buu doesn't have his regen. Just stop and think about the amount of rape that really is. Jiraiya has no physical advantage over Itachi except for a slight one in strength, which isn't going to cause Itachi any trouble whatsoever. On the other hand, Itachi can predict all of Jiraiya's moves before they happen. Good game.

Even together, Itachi only needs to cut one of them in a place where it reduces their Taijutsu effectiveness to the point that he can easily pick them off. The Achilles, the eye, etc. When he has a knife and they don't, it isn't that difficult to do.....especially with precognition.

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Old 06-11-2013, 12:05 AM   #8
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Jiraiya has virtually no taijutsu feats in his base, so he dies. Orochimaru was able to avoid getting stomped by a KN4 Naruto but that's still relatively minor compared to Itachi keeping up with KCM Naruto for a brief time. Itachi takes it mid difficulty.

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Old 06-11-2013, 01:35 AM   #11
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Itachi is 3x stronger than the Sannin and can literally take them all on, no restrictions needed.

Pure tajitsu and Oro has no regeneration, The 2 Sannin die miserably. Itachi is better than all the Sannin in every way. So including that with a Sharingan he rapes with low-mid diff.

Itachi's just superior to them all around. He's younger and more skillful mostly because of his Sharingan. Even without the restrictions he owns.

Also Oro Absorbed his chakra from Kabuto he didn't take any of his kekkai genkia or senjutsu. All he did was take over a Zetsu body do he has mad Hashi cells.

Itachi also can't keep up with CmNaruto. He was the one attacking while talking to naruto. Naruto simply was defending himself.

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Itachi is 3x stronger than the Sannin and can literally take them all on, no restrictions needed.

Pure tajitsu and Oro has no regeneration, The 2 Sannin die miserably. Itachi is better than all the Sannin in every way. So including that with a Sharingan he rapes with low-mid diff.

Itachi's just superior to them all around. He's younger and more skillful mostly because of his Sharingan. Even without the restrictions he owns.


Also Oro Absorbed his chakra from Kabuto he didn't take any of his kekkai genkia or senjutsu. All he did was take over a Zetsu body do he has mad Hashi cells.

Itachi also can't keep up with CmNaruto. He was the one attacking while talking to naruto. Naruto simply was defendiing himself.
Dafuq???

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Itachi is 3x stronger than the Sannin and can literally take them all on, no restrictions needed.


On topic: does Orochimaru get to use his Kusanagi?

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On topic: does Orochimaru get to use his Kusanagi?
No, the Sannin are completely unarmed.

Obviously, they can use Itachi's kunai if they manage to steal one or both of them.

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KCM Naruto's base speed (no Shunshin) is at least 1-2 tiers greater then anything Jiraiya and Orochimaru can do and Itachi kept up with him. Honestly there's no way in hell they are hitting him, 2v1 makes no different. A person who can move at Mach 10 will never hit someone who can move at Mach 30.

Jiraiya eventually gets a kunai through the brain and Orochimaru without regen is put down swiftly after.

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For whatever it's worth, I actually think this is a pretty even fight.

I left the Sannin unarmed because I didn't think Itachi would stand a chance in a 2-vs-1 scenario otherwise.

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I apologize about the Fanboy post.
But off topic. Oro got got owned twice by Itachi. Jman would lose the same way genjutsu, or M.S tech. Because of his potent Genjutsu, M.S Jutsus.


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On topic: does Orochimaru get to use his Kusanagi?
Lol sorry but Itachi with his M.S rapes the Sannin.


So Old man Jaraiya is inferior to an elite young Uchiha. And Oro can't regenerate so he's not going to fair much better.

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No, the Sannin are completely unarmed.

Obviously, they can use Itachi's kunai if they manage to steal one or both of them.
Okay.

With that in mind, I think the Sannin duo take it with difficulty.

Itachi's Sharingan and superior speed is going to give him an edge, especially since he is armed. However, it is still 2 vs 1. And since Itachi needs to get in close to attack given the restrictions, that means he will pretty much always be clashing with both of them. Itachi is quick and skilled, but I think either Sannin can defend themselves long enough for their partner to jump in and either attack Itachi from a different angle or come to their defense and remove the pressure.

Jiraiya has a strength advantage over Itachi, and he is also skilled in taijutsu - given his 4.5 stat in the DB. He also has good reactions.

Orochimaru, while not as skilled in taijutsu as the others, makes up for this in unpredicatablity due to being able to stretch his body into weird positions and perform odd movements. Even without regenerating, a kunai will struggle to put him down.

The way I see it is this: Itachi can defend himself against both of them if he's on the defensive; but I see him eventually being taken out or worn down by being counter-attacked whenever he attempts to take the offensive.

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I apologize about the Fanboy post.
But off topic. Oro got got owned twice by Itachi. Jman would lose the same way genjutsu, or M.S tech. Because of his potent Genjutsu, M.S Jutsus.

ol sorry but Itachi with his M.S rapes the Sannin.


So Old man Jaraiya is inferior to an elite young Uchiha. And Oro can't regenerate so he's not going to fair much better.
At his best, it would be a very high difficulty fight for Itachi but he's sure not mudering any of them. Itachi openly admitted the best he would do against Jiraiya by himself is a tie. I know that was a while back but compared with what we've seen from Jiraiya and Itachi, they are comparable. Now, the Sannin are said to be roughly on par with each other IIRC. So that puts Itachi more or less on par with the other two Sannin (Orochimaru only lost due to extreme CIS).

Also, Pain was known as the strongest member of Akatsuki and was also their boss yet he admitted that he wouldn't have beaten Jiraiya if Jiraiya had knowledge of all six. Unless you possibly think Itachi > Pain?

Overall, is Itachi on par with each of them at full strength? Most likely.

Could Itachi stomp each of them 1v1? Hell fucking no.

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Itachi casually dodged a blindsiding B while he was duking it out with KCM Naruto.

Sannin don't stand much of a chance here. It is virtually impossible for them to land a hit unless Itachi fucks up big time.

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