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Old 12-18-2012, 05:21 PM   #181
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WASHINGTON -- The National Rifle Association on Tuesday said it was prepared to offer "meaningful contributions" to ensure that events such as the massacre of 20 children and 6 adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., on Friday "never happen again."

The NRA said it planned to hold a major news conference on Friday, but did not say what it would announce.

The statement from the nation's largest pro-gun lobbying group was issued to members of the media after four days of total silence following the mass murder. During that time, the NRA has become a focal point for criticism from those who support stronger gun control laws. Members of Congress have said they plan to propose new laws on the first day of the next session of Congress in January.

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National Rifle Association of America is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters –- and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown.
Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting.

The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again.

The NRA is planning to hold a major news conference in the Washington, DC area on Friday, December 21.
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lol on Friday of all days.

When the worlds ends.

They'll most likely announce "Lifetime memberships 50% off y'all"


Nah but seriously.

I hope they spend their billions on keeping schools safe. They are very much complicit in the deaths of these children and other deaths that happen daily as are the politicians they support.

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Old 12-20-2012, 05:04 PM   #182
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Default Guns out of stock at Wal-Mart

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With President Barack Obama endorsing sweeping gun restrictions in the wake of the school shootings in Newtown, Connecticut, prices for handgun magazines are surging on EBay (EBAY) and semi-automatic rifles are sold out at many Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT) locations.

Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, said yesterday that it would continue to sell guns, including rifles like the one used at Newtown, where 26 people, most of them children, were killed on Dec. 14. By contrast, Dick's Sporting Goods Inc. (DKS) suspended sales of similar guns at its more than 500 stores.

Searches of five kinds of semi-automatic rifles on Wal- Mart's website showed them to be out of stock at stores in five states, including Pennsylvania, Kansas and Alabama. Wal-Mart doesn't sell guns online, instead asking customers to input a zip code to see if their local store carries a specific weapon.

"We remain dedicated to the safe and responsible sale of firearms in areas of the country where they are sold," David Tovar, a spokesman for Wal-Mart, said yesterday. He didn't immediately respond to a request for comment on this story.

Wal-Mart has about 10 modern sporting rifles, the gun industry's term for firearms that look like an M-16 military rifle, listed on its website. The retailer removed a description and picture of the Bushmaster AR-15, which was the model used in Newtown, after the shootings.

In 2006, Wal-Mart reduced the number and variety of guns it offered in stores, and replaced them with more upscale products such as exercise equipment. It then reintroduced firearms to many stores in April 2011 as part of strategy to add merchandise back to shelves and revive sales growth at its Wal-Mart locations in the U.S.

Gun Revenue

The move may have helped as U.S. Wal-Mart stores posted their first gain in same-store sales in more than two years in October 2011. Wal-Mart doesn't disclose how many guns it sells, though at an analysts' meeting in October it said gun revenue gained 76 percent in the first half of this fiscal year. The chain advertised a Sig Sauer M400 as one of its Black Friday doorbusters last month, offering the rifle for $50 off at $867.

Cabela's Inc. (CAB), an outdoor retailer that also sells guns, didn't return several calls seeking comment on whether it planned to change its firearm policies. Hunting equipment, which includes firearms, made up 41 percent of Cabela's sales in 2011, according to a company filing. The retailer doesn't provide sales data for just guns.

Prices Tripling

On EBay Inc.'s auction website, shoppers have recently bid up gun magazines. The current bid for four Glock handgun magazines, ammunition for one of the guns used at Newtown, is $118.37 compared with $45 on the day before the shooting. The bid for seven Glock magazines hit $201 on Dec. 17 from $71.01 before the massacre.

Gun buyers have flooded other firearms retailers too. The Hyatt Gun Shop in Charlotte, North Carolina, racked up more than $1 million in sales yesterday for the best single-day performance since the store opened in 1959, according to Justin Anderson, director of online sales. At the top of shoppers' lists was the Bushmaster AR-15, the model of rifle used at Newtown that sells for as much as $4,000 and had almost sold out, he said.

Revenue at one of the largest U.S. gun stores surpassed even the spike just after Obama was elected president in 2008, Anderson said in a telephone interview. Sales weren't as robust when Obama was re-elected last month because the president hadn't backed major new gun laws, he said.

‘Concrete Proposals'

Today, Obama said his administration would come up with "concrete proposals" by next month to curb gun violence.

Speculation over stricter gun laws will continue to boost sales, Anderson said yesterday.

"It's kind of the perfect storm for the gun industry," he said. "When these things happen, even though it's sad, it does pick up sales."

Wal-Mart has received some pressure to curb gun sales in the past. That continued this week when Lauren Buglino, a fourth-grade teacher from the Bronx, created an online petition on Change.org exhorting the retailer to stop selling rifles like the one used at Newtown. It had more than 57,000 supporters today.

Wal-Mart entered into an agreement in 2008 with the Mayors Against Illegal Guns that included video recording of purchases and the use of databases to identify people who have bought guns recovered in crimes.

When Wal-Mart added guns to stores in 2011, Mayor Thomas Menino of Boston criticized it for trying to increase the number of guns on the streets, according to the Boston Herald.

Menino and Mayor Michael Bloomberg of New York founded Mayors Against Illegal Guns. The mayor is founder and majority owner of Bloomberg News parent Bloomberg LP.
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Old 12-20-2012, 05:20 PM   #183
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:15 PM   #184
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The solution to our gun violence epidemic is to arm every man, woman and child...thus turning every petty argument into the O.K. Corral.

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Old 12-20-2012, 08:06 PM   #185
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Ping-Pong balls are more dangerous than guns, guys.

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Old 12-21-2012, 02:20 PM   #186
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HOLLIDAYSBURG, Pa. (AP) — A shooting along a rural road Friday left four people dead, including the gunman, and three state troopers injured, authorities said.

The shooting scene "extended over several miles" in Frankstown Township, about 70 miles west of Harrisburg, Blair County District Attorney Rich Consiglio said.

The dead were three men and one woman, Consiglio said. It wasn't immediately clear who killed the gunman.

The victims' identities weren't immediately released.

Three state troopers were also injured during the melee.

One trooper was shot in his bulletproof vest and escaped serious injury, a state police spokesman said.

A second trooper was struck by broken glass when his vehicle was fired on, and a third trooper was in a crash involving the gunman, Consiglio said.

The public is not at risk, Consiglio said. Nearby schools weren't placed on lockdown, township supervisor Mark Schroyer said.
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This happened during an NRA press conference calling for more guns.

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Old 12-21-2012, 02:22 PM   #187
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Very sad. Another mass shooting.

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Old 12-21-2012, 02:28 PM   #188
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How sad.

Yet more fuel to the fire of antigun sentiment. Now the question is why did this gunman pull this off?

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Old 12-21-2012, 03:42 PM   #189
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2 more school related problems:
http://www.abc12.com/story/20402791/...teacher-threat

About half an hour drive from my old school when I lived near Ann Arbor

http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/i...ces_terro.html

Millington is only 8 miles from me. Police has consficated 17 guns during the investigation with the 2 students.

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NRA calls for armed police officer in every school
http://news.yahoo.com/nra-calls-arme...162851713.html

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The nation's largest gun-rights lobby called Friday for armed police officers to be posted in every American school to stop the next killer "waiting in the wings."

The National Rifle Association broke its silence Friday on last week's shooting rampage at a Connecticut elementary school that left 26 children and staff dead.

The group's top lobbyist, Wayne LaPierre, said at a Washington news conference that "the next Adam Lanza," the man responsible for last week's mayhem, is planning an attack on another school.

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," LaPierre said.

He blamed video games, movies and music videos for exposing children to a violent culture day in and day out.

Yep this guy is really is a fucking tool and a fucking moron.

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Old 12-21-2012, 07:40 PM   #191
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HOLLIDAYSBURG, Pa. (AP) — A man fatally shot a woman decorating for a children's Christmas party at a tiny church hall and killed two men elsewhere in a rural central Pennsylvania township Friday before he was fatally shot in a gunfight with state troopers.

The shootings began in Frankstown Township at about 9 a.m. and investigators were processing five crime scenes within about a 1.5-mile radius, authorities said at a news briefing Friday afternoon. The troopers were responding to a 911 call of a shooting in the township when they heard calls reporting at least one other shooting elsewhere, state police spokeswoman Maria Finn said.

"It's going to take us some time to put this all together... and know exactly what occurred," Lt. Col. George Biven's, deputy state police commissioner, said at a news briefing.

Family members of the victims said they were told the woman at the church was the first victim shot, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported. The gunman then shot two men in the driveway of a home after a confrontation at a stop sign, authorities said.

"This person went to their driveway with a pistol, pointed at them and started shooting," Marie Brenneman told the newspaper, identifying herself as a cousin of one of the male victims. She said both male victims were the shooter's neighbors in the tiny village of Geeseytown, about 70 miles west of Harrisburg.

"They were uneasy around him," she said.

The woman at Juniata Valley Gospel Church had cooked food the day before for the funeral of the longtime pastor, said the Rev. James McCaulley, his brother. The central Pennsylvania church was still reeling from the Rev. David McCaulley's death when the woman returned to decorate the church hall — named after the pastor of 58 years — and bullets ripped through a window, he said.

The gunman then entered and shot one of two women before he left, the Rev. James McCaulley said.

Two troopers driving to the scene of one shooting were fired upon by the driver of a pickup truck headed in the other direction, and the truck smashed head-on into a cruiser driven by a third trooper. The truck driver — believed to be the gunman who killed the other victims — exited the truck and immediately fired at the troopers, who returned fire and killed him, Finn said.

Bivens said investigators don't know if the victims were picked at random. "We're not at that point in the investigation to firmly say one way or another," he said.

All three troopers were being treated at a hospital for what Finn said were non-life threatening injuries.

One trooper was hit by two bullets, one that hit the body armor on his chest and the other that wounded the trooper's wrist, Finn said. A second trooper was hit by shattered glass and shrapnel. Those two troopers were expected to be released from the hospital Friday.

The third trooper was being evaluated for injuries he suffered from the head-on crash with the gunman's truck.

McCaulley, who is the pastor of another church about 50 miles away from the site of Friday's carnage, said his older brother began leading the Frankstown church in 1954.

"He preached his last sermon at the church in October before he fell ill," McCaulley said.

The church, which lists about 150 members in an online want ad posted this month for an associate pastor, is close-knit and the woman killed Friday was among its more active members, McCaulley said. She had made food for him to bring home Thursday since his wife had died this year, he said.

"The only thing I can say good at this time is that (the gunman) didn't do this 24 hours earlier when there was a big crowd in the church hall," McCaulley said. "We're devastated."

Friday's shootings were the second involving a rural western Pennsylvania church this month.

Gregory Eldred, 52, an elementary school teacher is jailed on charges he fatally shot his ex-wife, a church organist, during a service in Coudersport on Dec. 2. The pastor and church members subdued him until police arrived.
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:22 AM   #193
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That was undoubtedly one of the worst speeches I've ever seen any organizational head give in a long time. It's like it came straight from the days of Columbine. Video games? Really?

"Where's all this violence coming from? Is it the video games? I bet it's the video games."
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Basically you just want zero accountability so you can stock shelves with rifles no hunter has business having since you don't need semi-automatic to take down a deer or boar. You just fuel the paranoia the government's out to get you in your way too outdated interpretation of the Second Amendment.

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Old 12-22-2012, 10:48 AM   #194
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Yep this guy is really is a fucking tool and a fucking moron.
A cop (or retired cop) in every school is a good idea though. I'm pretty sure this is more or less the case in U.S. High Schools already.

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Old 12-22-2012, 11:59 AM   #195
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A cop (or retired cop) in every school is a good idea though.
Not really. For one thing, it's financially not viable at the moment while the NRA:
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In the 1994 crime bill that included the original assault weapons ban, Bill Clinton included a new program called "Community Oriented Policing Services" that meant to add 100,000 new police officers to our streets (which LaPierre is essentially now proposing by putting cops in every school.) The NRA opposed that bill in 1994 and later mocked the COPS program for failing to meet its promise. Now he's complaining about the loss of "Secure Our Schools" grants. They were administered by COPS.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...ference/60261/

If there's a serious push for some kind of volunteer system... That's gonna be iffy as standards go for a national scale while there's the still the issue of how effective idea actually is in reality. It doesn't help that such security is linked to a decrease in student learning.
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I'm pretty sure this is more or less the case in U.S. High Schools already.
It's likely not. Security and such but it's not really common for armed security in all school districts.

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A Department of Education survey conducted during the 2009-2010 school year found that 23,200 of the nation's public schools, or 28% of those surveyed, reported already having security officers who carry firearms on campus at least once a week.

Each year, since 1992, less than 2% of all youth homicides occurred at an elementary or high school or as children walked to school, according to a report issued earlier this year by the U.S. Department of Education and the U.S. Department of Justice.That could include at after-school and weekend activities rather than during school hours. The department surveyed 82,800 of the nation's 98,817 public schools.

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The cost of expanding the use of armed security is unclear. According to the Department of Labor, the median salary for a police officer in 2010 was $55,000. Craig Steckler, president of the International Association of Chiefs of Police, supported the idea of placing police officers at school but said the manpower demands would be high. It would take more than half of his patrol force in Fremont, Calif., to provide security at the city's 43 public and multiple private schools.

How effective an expanded armed-security program might be also isn't certain. Some advocates say assailants may avoid places that they know to be armed. But in the 1999 Columbine school shootings in Colorado, an armed school resource officer exchanged gunfire with one of the teenage gunmen. An after-action report ordered by the Colorado governor said that the exchange forced the two gunmen into the school library, where they then killed 10 students.
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NRA classy as always. Mocking failed programs and mum when school shootings erupt.

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Yeah there are many in high schools. Maybe not all but from where I live, including the HS I went to, there is a cop on duty at the school. How effective this is I can't really say but neodragzero does have a good point that he brought up.




I hate the NRA's way of thinking.

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