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Old 11-29-2012, 11:28 PM   #1
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So there's two things I want to talk about.

First Kishimoto mentioned Madara has no weaknesses, but that doesn't makes sense, everything has a weakness according to Itachi. We've seen that Edo Tensei resurrects can be swayed into moving on to the afterlife after their regrets are eased, much like exorcising a ghost. Sasori and Sai's brother's Edo Tensei was undone this way which forced Kabuto to keep the other Edo Tensei ninja fully controlled using Orochimaru's Chakra. But Kabuto is no more to strenghten his control over a Edo Tensei body, so Madara's free. This is Madara's weakness, but what or who could possibly sway Madara into moving on to the after life...?

And then we have one of the strongest jutsu in the Naruto world only second to Plot no Jutsu: Talk no Jutsu. But every jutsu has a weakness! What could that be?

Do you guys see it? Talk no Jutsu and Madara are eachother's weaknesses! I forgot who said this in another thread but because unlike the other shinobi who "became" evil from some sob event that happened to them and made them sought for peace, Madara has always sought for power, he didn't become evil, he was always evil. And he's got a pretty sharp tongue and top tier trash talking that made Oonoki the kind of kage he was until recently. He could make you eat your own TnJ.

And yet at the same a strong and well delivered TnJ is the only thing that could make Madara's spirit to move on and undo the Edo Tensei. Effectively defeating him.

The strongest Spear vs the strongest Shield. Which one will win?

tl;dr Itachi is in this thread.

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Old 11-29-2012, 11:37 PM   #2
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I actually was going to post this without even reading OP, but I accidentally saw part of it and you beat me to it.



Made it a while ago.

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Old 11-29-2012, 11:37 PM   #3
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Sasuke is Madara's weakness.

It's already in the cards, and set in stone.
I know I'm saying something crazy but just log off of here for a bit.
Just chill out and let my statement ring in your head for a while.

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Or Madara will disappear when Mugen Tsukuyomi is cast as his ultimate plan and goal will have come to fruition. Possibly the very reason he wanted to be revived by Gedō: Rinne Tensei no Jutsu.

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Old 11-30-2012, 12:02 AM   #5
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Looks like Madara is a jutsu now


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The strongest Spear vs the strongest Shield. Which one will win?
Gaara vs. Kimimaro much?


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tl;dr Itachi is in this thread.
Enough for me.

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Old 11-30-2012, 12:13 AM   #7
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Kishi said every Jutsu has a weakness, not every Shinobi.

In any case, I don't see Madara disappearing if his goal is achieved. I mean, even if he fulfilled his plan, I'd think the obsession with Hashirama would keep him around. He's got unresolved issues, for sure. Since it seems that his obsession stems from Hashirama's strength, I'd imagine the only way to release his soul would be to beat the living shit out of him and completely outclass him in power.

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Old 11-30-2012, 10:39 AM   #8
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Ok perhaps Madara himself is not a jutsu, but Edo Tensei is, and not only its strenghts but also Edo Tensei's weakness' are his own.

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Kishi said every Jutsu has a weakness, not every Shinobi.

In any case, I don't see Madara disappearing if his goal is achieved. I mean, even if he fulfilled his plan, I'd think the obsession with Hashirama would keep him around. He's got unresolved issues, for sure. Since it seems that his obsession stems from Hashirama's strength, I'd imagine the only way to release his soul would be to beat the living shit out of him and completely outclass him in power.
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Madara's talk no jutsu is chuunin level; sure he managed to convert Obito, but he caught him young and after the death of his adolescent crush, Naruto swayed a 40 year old super villain with his brand of proselytising, hell he's in the process of winning over Obito himself right now, without even trying

If Naruto had fought the five Kage they'd of turned on the alliance in ten minutes

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Old 11-30-2012, 12:43 PM   #11
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Madara's talk no jutsu is chuunin level; sure he managed to convert Obito, but he caught him young and after the death of his adolescent crush, Naruto swayed a 40 year old super villain with his brand of proselytising, hell he's in the process of winning over Obito himself right now, without even trying

If Naruto had fought the five Kage they'd of turned on the alliance in ten minutes
Maybe it was easy to use on Obito at such age and all that happened with him but his Trash talking no jutsu also shaped the Tsuchigakure administration as it was for decades until recently

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Old 11-30-2012, 12:47 PM   #12
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There are two known jutsus that could end Edo Madara permanently, first one being contract breaking seal and the second is Shiki Fuujin.

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Old 11-30-2012, 12:50 PM   #13
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Shiki fuujin's knowledge died with the last two hokages and the Uzumaki clan though

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Old 11-30-2012, 12:52 PM   #14
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well, yeah. many people don't get itachi's words "every jutsu has a weakness" as they assume "weakness" means " direct counter". weakness is a vague word as it could mean weak, ineffective, a way around it. juubi's attack can not be countered by naruto and bee in this chapter but that doesn't mean they can't redirect it. thus, making it worthless and "weak"

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That's why the 50year old genin is there.

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There are two known jutsus that could end Edo Madara permanently, first one being contract breaking seal and the second is Shiki Fuujin.
He can be sealed like the others controlled by Kabuto, just as the 5 Kage tried . . . If his enemies can get close enough.

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There are two known jutsus that could end Edo Madara permanently, first one being contract breaking seal and the second is Shiki Fuujin.


and what would contract breaking do exactly aside from giving madara the ability to choose what side to fight on? contract breaking does not reverse summon the ET themeselves or kyuubi would have been back in kushina's belly once minato used his contract breaking seal. + ET madara can ET himself again even if it did reverse summon madara because ET takes time to disappear on it's own once the contract/control/jutsu is gone.

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everything has a weakness according to Itachi.
Seriously? Itachi knows nothing hence why he failed everything and got played like a child

One can not be restricted by the constraints of Edo Tensei if he reversed the Jutsu and free'd himself, see unlike Itachi, Madara actually cancelled Edo Tensei, Itachi just changed the programming through Genjutsu, Madara can't be "freed" as he is no longer bound by the Jutsu.


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Seriously? Itachi knows nothing hence why he failed everything and got played like a child

One can not be restricted by the constraints of Edo Tensei if he reversed the Jutsu and free'd himself, see unlike Itachi, Madara actually cancelled Edo Tensei, Itachi just changed the programming through Genjutsu, Madara can't be "freed" as he is no longer bound by the Jutsu.
Itachi said "every jutsu has a weakness" and proceeded to stomp SSJ Nagato.

Madara's perfect susanoo and hashi's dragon must have a weakness as well.

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Seriously? Itachi knows nothing hence why he failed everything and got played like a child
Oh yeah? I see Sasuke bossing around an Akatsuki member and the world worshipping Konoha and its ninja as he ended Edo Tensei. Wow what failure Itachi.

Itachi didn't go into hiding after getting his ass kicked like a certain someone . . .

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