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Old 10-25-2012, 04:58 PM   #1
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Zaru? An Analysis of Punk Hazard

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Well, I noticed another topic in this section starting up a heated conversation regarding how “good” Punk Hazard is. Well, I’m gonna break it down right here so that we can actually analyze Punk Hazard



Introduction
Just to go over what will be covered, I’ll start off with a brief explanation on Oda’s preferred method of structuring arcs and sagas in order for us to properly classify Punk Hazard. With that, we’ll be to properly understand the purpose of Punk Hazard. With the purpose in mind, we’ll go in depth to certain fundamental story aspects like humor, action, and character development to see how Punk Hazard performs in these areas and how it compares to other similar styled arcs.


The Types of Arcs
One Piece is divided into separate sagas tied together by overarching plot lines. Each saga is divided into closely related arcs. Now there are three common types of arcs Oda likes to use: Seg-way Arcs, Setup Arcs, and Saga Arcs. These aren’t anything official, just names based on observations I’ve made off of Oda’s style and structure. Seg-way Arcs are arcs that aren’t completely tied with the overall saga story plot, but are still a bit relevant. Most of the time, these arcs are caused because they happen to be an island the Strawhats have to go through. Examples include the Drum Island Arc, the Thriller Bark Arc, and possibly the Fishman Island Arc (we’ll have to see where this current saga goes). Setup Arcs are more “relevant” then Seg-way Arcs and usually provide substantial setup and foundational elements to allow for the Saga to reach its pinnacle in the Saga Arcs. Examples include most of the arcs in the East Blue Saga, the Whiskey Peak arc, the Jaya Arc, the Water Seven Arc, the Sabaody Archipelago Arc, etc. As you can see, most arcs are Setup Arcs. Finally we have Saga Arcs, these are usually the most “epic” arcs and where the saga gets to the pinnacle and addresses and resolves the main conflicts developed in the Setup Arcs (and possibly the Seg-way Arcs). Examples include the Loguetown Arc, the Alabasta Arc, the Skypiea Arc, the Ennies Lobby Arc, the Marineford Arc, etc. (it is also definitely possible to have more than one Saga Arc in one saga, for example, the post-Saga arcs like the Post-Ennies Lobby Arc can be considered a Saga Arc and the Impel Down can be considered a Saga Arc over being a Setup Arc).

Now that we have that down, we can easily classify Punk Hazard. Punk Hazard is clearly not a Saga Arc. Saga Arcs are easy to characterize and usually high class major villains are on the island the arc takes place on. So far, we’ve been introduced to two high class major villains in this saga: the Emperor Big Mam and the Warlord Donquixote Doflamingo. Neither of these two villains are on the island of Punk Hazard. Punk Hazard is also not a Seg-way Arc, we know this because it’s possible that Fishman Island was a Seg-way arc, so it would be absurd for Oda to have two Seg-way Arcs in a row. It’s bad storywriting (the plot line of the saga becomes obscure and the reader is left confused on the author’s intent) and Oda has never had two Seg-way arcs in a row. This leaves us with the Setup Arc. It makes the most sense anyway; this arc seems to be setting up for a huge Saga Arc with one of the two aforementioned villains. So to conclude this section: Punk Hazard is a Setup Arc.


The Purpose of Punk Hazard
Ok, so we figured out Punk Hazard is a Setup Arc. That means it has much the same purpose as all of the other Setup Arcs: to lay the foundational plot lines and sub-plot lines, introduce and develop characters, provide for more Worldbuilding (no, this is not architectural design or what not, it’s simply the process of creating a fictional world, and each island Oda introduces to us is part of this Worldbuilding process), etc. to allow the Saga Arc(s) to capitalize on. Due to this, it’s natural to assume that Saga Arcs will be better received over Setup Arcs, but this does not mean at all that Setup Arcs cannot be good. In fact, Setup Arcs can even be better than certain Saga Arcs. However, for the purpose of this analysis we’ll be seeing how Punk Hazard is perfectly fitting its role as a Setup Arcs and by the end, we can see how Punk Hazard will be one the best crafted Setup Arcs made by Oda, matching (or even beating if Punk Hazard gets better) arcs like the Water Seven Arc and the Sabaody Archipelago Arc (which are known to be strongly liked by fans).


1. Length of Punk Hazard
(I’ll try my best to make these following sections short, sweet, and to the point). Is the Punk Hazard Arc long? Is it dragging? Well, let’s look at one of our two staple Setup Arcs: the Water Seven Arc. Water Seven was 52 chapters long (322 to 374). Punk Hazard is currently 32 chapters long (654 to 686)…and the arc is already at its climax, evidenced by there being only 20 minutes left in the arc…literally. You want to know where the Water Seven Arc was 32 chapters in? It was a flashback chapter for Franky, specifically the building of the Sea Train. There’s still some crucial stuff to be done before the Water Seven's closure, such as the whole sea train battle. The point is that arcs (specifically Setup Arcs) need varying degrees of time to setup for the Saga Arcs. For example, the two Setup Arcs of the Whitebeard War Saga amounted to 33 chapters (even more if you want to include Impel Down). The East Blue Saga contained 95 chapters of setup, and 68 if you don’t want to include the Arlong arc. The Skypeia Saga had the least amount of setup (only 18 chapters of setup in the Jaya Arc) but that resulted in the longest Saga Arc in the whole series (Skypiea had 65 chapters!). The point is that setup is necessary and as long as it’s relevant, there is no dragging nothing to complain about. Unless all we got this arc was useless information, then yes, you could argue this is dragging…but Punk Hazard has been the result of some of the most information we’ve ever received. Punk Hazard should be concluding in no more than 10 chapters, leaving it at about a 40 chapter long arc which is just fine for a Setup Arc.


2. Humor
Humor in Punk Hazard? Have a look for yourself:

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oh Luffy…


Those faces…too damn funny


Are the funny moments starting to come back to you?


This whole scene…



3. Action
There have been some complaints on there being too many “skirmishes” and not any actual fights. Well, how many actual Setup Arcs did we have defined and official fights? That’s right, like none. Sabaody had several chaotic fights and no official ones, and Water Seven was a whole bunch of skirmishes and chaos. Same as Punk Hazard, a bunch of chaos and in fact, there are more organized fight despite the chaotic characteristic of Setup Arcs: Smoker vs Law, Smoker vs Vergo, etc. There’s been a fair portion of action. The only critique I would give it would be omit uneeded fights, like the second fight of Ceasar and Luffy. So far, that seems a bit unnecessary.


4. Drama
The one thing Punk Hazard doesn’t have as much as Sabaody and Water Seven is in fact drama. The crew drama in those two arcs were unparalleled. However, where though Oda doesn’t emphasize on much crew interaction and drama this arc, there he partially makes up for it with the G-5 Marines interactions and drama. Now that right there has been superb. Especially when taking note of the look of vindication on Smoker’s eyes when he fights Vergo and cries for his men. However, though Punk Hazard has less drama overall then Water Seven and Sabaody, like I said earlier, Water Seven and Sabaody also lack significant comedy.


5. Worldbulding
Dragons? Old science buildings? Centaurs? Hot and cold existing on the same island? If you’re going to dislike the arc, you have to at least agree that the setting and Worldbuilding is phenomenal.


6. Characters
It’s already widely accepted that Vergo is an amazing character so I won’t argue for him (even his fighting style is completely unique and interesting). Smoker has also made a strong showing this arc, and even though he “lost” to Law in the beginning, it was still a great fight and I really think it was anyone’s game. Tashigi has faced a ton of criticism and rightly so, but with this recent introduction for into the Zoro v. Monet fight, Oda is giving opportunity for her to finally prove herself. Monet and Kinemon (the two debated “new nakama” potential) are also very interesting characters. Cearsar is pretty decent as a villain, not extremely likable, but he serves his purpose of being a complete nutcase. So all in all, Oda has done a great job in introducing great new characters and refreshing us with some older characters. However, I do feel there is a lack in Strawhat development. Actually, not really development, but some character inaccuracies. For example, when Zoro tells Luffy to get serious and then Luffy gets duped again, and to make it worse, Zoro doesn’t even follow his own advice and starts sleeping later on until he starts fighting Monet. However, I believe this can be accomdated for one of themes later on which will be over the new attitude of the Strawhats and how it will quickly change as they progress throughout the New World.


7. Themes
First of all, I believe Oda is possibly giving us a message regarding the Strawhats. Their attitude seems a bit conceited, especially Zoro. I believe this will serve to setup crushing defeats later in the New World that will provide massive character development and help them learn that there are things beyond brute force that will get you through the New World, certain intangibles. We also have several other important themes in this arc, more themes then most other arcs, such as: The Dichotomy of Science (being able to use it for good or for bad), Anything is Susceptible to be Manipulated, A Chaotic Environment can easily destroy a child, etc. These themes are new and refreshing in One Piece, unlike typical One Piece themes revolving around the protection of one’s nakama or what not (not that that’s a bad theme, it’s just good to have diversity). This is why it’s important to have panel time for the children as they serve as vehicles for important themes here.


Conclusion
Punk Hazard is a great arc and fulfills its purpose exceptionally well. If I had to rate it out of 10, I can easily give it an 8/10, around the likes of Water Seven and Sabaody (p.s. there are some other topics that I wanted to cover like mystery, but this should be sufficient).

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Old 10-25-2012, 05:28 PM   #2
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Interesting.

I would add Ceasar and Momonosuke to the characters, also Vegapunk and Doflamingo who have particiated in this arc indirectly.

Not sure what you mean with Drama... Ceasar was a pretty good Dramaqueen I think the drama will follow when the fights will be over. Petrified people, dying kids, crying parents, Kinemon and Momonosuke.

The length is indeed very interesting. I'm still not sure if Oda decided to fill the arcs with more content generally or if it's a preparation for something very huge.

The only good action we'll get is Smoker vs Vergo. But action is not really the important part in this arc.

I also think there will be more themes revealed or indicated after SAD will be explained and if Big Mom is really the Yonkou Law want to attack or if it's Kaidou. Though everything speaks for BM, Kaidou becomes likely to be their aim because of that.

And I will wait before giving it any rating. This arc will probably deliver somethng monstrously epic.

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Great analysis.

Very well presented. I might also add that, for a setup arc, it leaves a lot of potential. As BM stated, they could go for Kaido as well, and Big Mom and Doflamingo are pretty clear. Wano Kuni could also be an option(the least likely one tho).

Also what you said about how the Straw Hats would be defeated and crushed in the New World sounds entirely plausible and could definitely be great potential for some intense character development.

I also like the fact, that Oda is giving Smoker some room to shine, as he has lacked feats before, and since people are so adamant to compare his role in the story as the Garp to Luffy's Roger, Smoker needs to be able to at least handle a fellow vice admiral post time skip if he is to advance at a steady pace along with Luffy.

Great review!

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You forgot the "WE ARE NAMI-SWAAAN" bit for the humor part.

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Nice analysis

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I agree with a lot of what you say, but I think you missed out on one important category that a lot of people seem to be varying degrees of discontent with: pacing and presentation. Not so much about the length in terms of chapters, but how certain things have been extended past what's really necessary and others have been cut short. Getting far, far more panel time of people endlessly and uselessly running than of an exciting clash like Sanji vs. Vergo is kind of grating. As you pointed out yourself, Luffy vs. Caesar round 2 was awkwardly cut short and might as well not even have happened. Things get hyped up, then almost immediately cut short and shot down, ending up feeling underwhelming. This is obviously a bigger problem on weekly reads than in volume form, but I would still include the category of pacing in the analysis and address these issues since almost all of us are after all reading it week-by-week.

I'm also not sure about your theory that Oda is setting up another "fall" in the New World, this time based on the Straw Hats being arrogant assholes who think they've become so strong that they can just plow through everything. That seems like a pretty awful plot point that wouldn't accomplish anything but making them look really stupid. I feel this is more likely to be just awkward writing on Oda's part.

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I loved your analysis. I still feel that Fishman Island is a set up arc to put in your words. With Luffy going into the new world challenging Big Mam right out of the gate with the conjunction of teaming up with law to throw the new world into chaos, I think it's leading to the possibility of throwing the Yonkou territories into chaos. Blurring the lines, if you will. This is why I think Luffy will have his flag planted in FI soon and I also think it may happen in Wano. And soon for that matter. Soon, as in after this saga arc is done with Don Flamingo. But is still think the saga relates to Fishman Island and Princess Shirahoshi. I can't see her being shelved for too long.

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Interesting.

I would add Ceasar and Momonosuke to the characters, also Vegapunk and Doflamingo who have particiated in this arc indirectly.

Not sure what you mean with Drama... Ceasar was a pretty good Dramaqueen I think the drama will follow when the fights will be over. Petrified people, dying kids, crying parents, Kinemon and Momonosuke.

The length is indeed very interesting. I'm still not sure if Oda decided to fill the arcs with more content generally or if it's a preparation for something very huge.

The only good action we'll get is Smoker vs Vergo. But action is not really the important part in this arc.

I also think there will be more themes revealed or indicated after SAD will be explained and if Big Mom is really the Yonkou Law want to attack or if it's Kaidou. Though everything speaks for BM, Kaidou becomes likely to be their aim because of that.

And I will wait before giving it any rating. This arc will probably deliver somethng monstrously epic.
Thanks! And yea, completely forgot Momonosuke, Doflamingo, and Vegapunk. I did have Ceasar I believe. But of course though Momonosuke is already being set up as a very interesting character and Doflamingo is already at the top of my list for favorite villain lol. And what I mean by drama I mean by like "sadness"-invoking scenes or dramatic like scenes such as Luffy v. Usopp. And yea definitely, this arc is setting up for some pretty good drama afterwards, and like I said, there's already been adequate drama with the G5 Marines. As for the length, I'm thinking the actual Saga Arc will be less long but still something very huge. As I said before, the longer the setup, the shorter the Saga Arc, but just theorizing. Most likely since the cast continues to increase in One Piece, this will force for more chapters. Moreoever, you're definitely right, action is not the focus of this arc. This arc emphasis on other things like Mystery and suspense and it does it beautifully. And SAD is setting up for something epic I'm sure, and the themes it will entail will likely be spot on. The arc will end extremely well, I know that, Oda is a perfectionist at ending arcs, so we'll see what he'll deliver this time.


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Great analysis.

Very well presented. I might also add that, for a setup arc, it leaves a lot of potential. As BM stated, they could go for Kaido as well, and Big Mom and Doflamingo are pretty clear. Wano Kuni could also be an option(the least likely one tho).

Also what you said about how the Straw Hats would be defeated and crushed in the New World sounds entirely plausible and could definitely be great potential for some intense character development.

I also like the fact, that Oda is giving Smoker some room to shine, as he has lacked feats before, and since people are so adamant to compare his role in the story as the Garp to Luffy's Roger, Smoker needs to be able to at least handle a fellow vice admiral post time skip if he is to advance at a steady pace along with Luffy.

Great review!
Thanks! And yea, this is one of the first setup arcs where we have no clue where were going from here. I'm sure a ton of people had no clue what was going to happen with One Piece as the Strawhats were being pummeled in Sabaody. There were just so many options. And yea, as for the character development, I think they need to realize that it's not all about brute force. I mean, I don't expect a crushing defeat like Sabaody, but a defeat like Ennies Lobby, where they get back on their feet and move forward. Finally, yes, Smoker's development this arc has been superb. Oda's really showing his sense of justice and companionship that allows for him to be the perfect "garp" for the future.


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You forgot the "WE ARE NAMI-SWAAAN" bit for the humor part.
Punk Hazard has just been filled with comedy.


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Nice analysis
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I agree with a lot of what you say, but I think you missed out on one important category that a lot of people seem to be varying degrees of discontent with: pacing and presentation. Not so much about the length in terms of chapters, but how certain things have been extended past what's really necessary and others have been cut short. Getting far, far more panel time of people endlessly and uselessly running than of an exciting clash like Sanji vs. Vergo is kind of grating. As you pointed out yourself, Luffy vs. Caesar round 2 was awkwardly cut short and might as well not even have happened. Things get hyped up, then almost immediately cut short and shot down, ending up feeling underwhelming. This is obviously a bigger problem on weekly reads than in volume form, but I would still include the category of pacing in the analysis and address these issues since almost all of us are after all reading it week-by-week.

I'm also not sure about your theory that Oda is setting up another "fall" in the New World, this time based on the Straw Hats being arrogant assholes who think they've become so strong that they can just plow through everything. That seems like a pretty awful plot point that wouldn't accomplish anything but making them look really stupid. I feel this is more likely to be just awkward writing on Oda's part.
Thanks! I was running pretty short on the character limit (I actually had to cut down from my original post like taking out the Mystery category) but Pacing and Presentation is one category I didn't think about and your right, it should be something that's adressed. You're completely right, panel time is sometimes spent on uneccessary things, Oda is trying to emphasize too much on the sense of danger, but we're already well informed on how dangerous the situation is. As for hyping things up and they getting cut off, that isn't terribly bad like in the volume sense as you said, and also because it starts generating suspense to see it. However, in this case, it is somewhat bad because we have so many cases like that, and I believe that ties in to the unecessary panels that are taking away from certain things.

As for this fall in the New World, don't get me wrong, I don't mean they'll get destroyed like in Sabaody, but more like in Water Seven in Iceburg's building where all the Strawhats got pummelled but still got back up to chase after them. Oda could do it right, by allowing them to be defeated through arrogance, but the real negative effects lying in them being unable to accomplish their mission somewhere (ex. get beat like in Water Seven and the town they were trying to protect ends up getting burned down. The Strawhats will get back up on their feet and realize training =/= the strongest, it takes the intangibles garnered through experience to truly be unstoppable).


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I loved your analysis. I still feel that Fishman Island is a set up arc to put in your words. With Luffy going into the new world challenging Big Mam right out of the gate with the conjunction of teaming up with law to throw the new world into chaos, I think it's leading to the possibility of throwing the Yonkou territories into chaos. Blurring the lines, if you will. This is why I think Luffy will have his flag planted in FI soon and I also think it may happen in Wano. And soon for that matter. Soon, as in after this saga arc is done with Don Flamingo. But is still think the saga relates to Fishman Island and Princess Shirahoshi. I can't see her being shelved for too long.
Thanks! Yea, same here, I'm actually hoping Fishman Island is a setup arc instead of a Seg-way arc like Drum Island or Thriller Bark (which happened to be arcs I didn't enjoy much). Definitely FI will be Luffy's first territory I'll tell you that, and it would be epic if Wano was behind Luffy's back as well. Finally, the whole cover story with Caribou, I'm thinking he'll escape G-5 and tell Doflamingo about Shirahoshi (as he was spying on Robin and Neptune before) thus causing Doflamingo to go after Shirahoshi but would simultaneously cause problems with Big Mam as it's Big Mam's territory. We'll see though.

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Didn't read it all but you expressed your opinions nicely and most of it actually goes well with mine.
Also, the humor part can be so much bigger because we have had a lot of funny moments lately
To conclude, I love this arc and every week I'm biting my nails in anticipation for the next chapter...

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I agree with a lot of what you say, but I think you missed out on one important category that a lot of people seem to be varying degrees of discontent with: pacing and presentation. Not so much about the length in terms of chapters, but how certain things have been extended past what's really necessary and others have been cut short. Getting far, far more panel time of people endlessly and uselessly running than of an exciting clash like Sanji vs. Vergo is kind of grating. As you pointed out yourself, Luffy vs. Caesar round 2 was awkwardly cut short and might as well not even have happened. Things get hyped up, then almost immediately cut short and shot down, ending up feeling underwhelming. This is obviously a bigger problem on weekly reads than in volume form, but I would still include the category of pacing in the analysis and address these issues since almost all of us are after all reading it week-by-week.

I'm also not sure about your theory that Oda is setting up another "fall" in the New World, this time based on the Straw Hats being arrogant assholes who think they've become so strong that they can just plow through everything. That seems like a pretty awful plot point that wouldn't accomplish anything but making them look really stupid. I feel this is more likely to be just awkward writing on Oda's part.

I think the fall doesn't need to be any time soon, but at some point the Straw Hats will have to take one in the story, maybe later on as they move deeper in the New World. (Falling to a Yonko they challenge could be appropriate.) I don't think that if there is indeed a fall, it will be placed in the same saga Punk hazard has been placed in, but it could be like, distant foreshadowing, such as Brook/Laboon, Kuma/Rev. Army, Purpose of Noah etc

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I am always a little puzzled by threads such as these. We are discussing a work of fiction. Thus, there are no certain 'good arcs' or 'bad arcs'. It is all subjective. As with all fictional works, some like it and some like it. Of course, there will be works which are overwhelmingly popular or overwhelmingly unpopular. However, that does not take away from an individual's opinion. One has every right to one's opinion, however, one should not begrudge others their opinions. Moreover, one should be secure enough in one's own opinion and not fly off the wall if others don't agree with oneself. For instance, in my opinion, Punk Hazard has its moments, but overall I think it has been quite below average up till now. However, I have no problem if anyone thinks it has been an exceptional arc.

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Great post. I agree in pretty much all points, with this arc setting up the Pirate Alliance and a future clash with Doflamingo while still having an interesting adventure.

I agree with Coruscation that pacing has been the main problem for me this arc, though I think reading this in volume form will make it better. One of the issues I have is that I'm desperate to see the Straw Hats truly tested in the New World but for now we have to see Luffy falling down or Zoro not attacking.

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Old 10-27-2012, 05:49 PM   #13
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Yeah it is all good, this arc is only a setup for the other sn, wano, BM, and doffy all in one saga. Its all great

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I agreed with a lot of what you had to say but I can not disagree more that it was a "set-up" arc. Just saying it is a set-up arc downplays the quality of the arc as a whole and it loses value. There was a lot going on (and still going on) and many fights and inner conflicts that started as a result of this. So many people go with the typical formula that if the SH aren't saving an island, it's not a full arc. AKA; if it's not affecting a lot of people, it means nothing. I have even heard people say FI arc was a set-up/side arc so it's really baffling that people can't just treat an arc regularly. Oda said the arc would be approaching the climax by the end of the year and if my math is correct, PH will have as many chapters as FI or more.

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What I just wanna add is that on a literary standpoint, Oda has done only good arcs, and not bad ones. Every arc he did had conflict, drama, comedy, and action. He had always tied up loose ends and those which he didn't, he covered in a separate arc. He always set up each arc with their own quirks and questions.

All people really complained about when it came to Punk Hazard was the pacing. Well screw you, try and read Water Seven weekly too. I'd bet you'd be out of your mind complaining about how Luffy and everyone were acting out of character and that Luffy wasn't supposed to be beaten by Lucci that easily on their first encounter. Oh, and that Franky was a bullshit villain, Arlong had more character.

It all boils down to being the 2nd arc they've followed in real-time. I don't seriously listen to complaints like that, since most fans of One Piece just dived in during Sabaody to the War.

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People dislike the small skrimishes? I've liked them, they have all been fun to see from CC's saber to Sanji and Vergo kick fight.

People shouldn't feel robbed from not getting to see an entire fight. Most of them have concluded in some sense. We know Sanji was more likely to lose than win. We know Zoro and Luffy would rip apart Monet in a serious fight. CC has durability and neat tricks but isn't much of a fighter at the end of the day.

The real problem in this arc comes from one thing: Oda attempting to create too much action in a segway arc. If you think about it most arcs such as this one have usually had more talking then action in them. They may have ended in action but the focus was story. In little Garden we had the story of the giants before Mr.3 showed up. Jaya had Bellamy vs Luffy but most of the arc was used to set up the idea of dreamer pirates. We've had very little time to breathe in this arc. We've gone from Dragons, to Cool Brothers, to Law vs Smoker. Most other arcs has had moments were the SH sit down, drink/eat, and discuss some subject. This sort of thing is important, after all this isn't suppose to be a tense arc. This is an arc that should be used to set up the story and begin the build up that will lead to tension in the main part of the saga.

I'm guessing this all due to them being in the NW and Oda wanted a hectic situation to show off the NW. Still these have not been exciting situations. Its more like throwing a ton of things at them and having them run around in circles in attempt to make it look like thses are exciting situations.

Punk Hazard is actually very similar to Whiskey Peak. They occured at the start of new environments and the content of each chapter is more action than plot. The big differences are that Whiskey Peak was short, the action was all in one big event, and that it was more satisfying. We got to see how Luffy and Zoro kicking ass which is a lot more fun than seeing Zoro get drugged by giants. Had this arc been the SH destroying all of CC's men across the island, eventually running from Shinokuni, and then starting to bust his lab up while CC panics and Vergo and Monet go into action (one long stream of events) there may have been less complaints.

May seem funny that I first defend the skirmishes and then go on to talk about something that seems to be against the idea of having a ton of skirmishes scattered through out the arc. The point is that I have no problem with fights that don't properly conclude, I think they have been well done, my concern is with the multitude of action scenes in this arc which are not actually contributing to the point of the arc.

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Interesting thread - I love the idea of the SH's getting their asses handed to them soon. Actually I think that would be a great way to introduce the new Shichibukai - have him completely smash the SH's.

Apart from that, I just have to say that the Zoro/Sanji interaction in the last chapter is one of the funniest moments in OP history for me. I haven't liked the humor in this arc because it's been repetitive for me, but this was just gold. Shame I read it, as watching it in the anime would have had me in stitches.

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