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Old 08-24-2012, 05:10 AM   #1
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Default Radditz Moving FTL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0fhIJGIfic Hey, me and my brother have been arguing about this video for awhile, and He honestly believes Radditz moves faster than light and he keeps bringing up Piccolo's nameless attack that reached the moon in a couple of seconds and special beam cannon has to be faster than "this nameless attack"...I want people to look over this video and try to debunk it.....I know this has been done a thousands times but i want this video digested...Any takers...

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Old 08-24-2012, 05:14 AM   #2
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Non canon (Raditz being mentioned to be ftl by piccolo ) . , And the moon speed feat was an outlier , No attack showed such speed in the whole series .


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Non canon . , And the moon speed feat was an outlier , No attack showed such speed in the whole series .[/quote]

Destroying the Moon was canon, And whats an "OUTLIER"??, and other beams have left the planet, but they haven't been depicted in the same as Piccolo's....

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Destroying the Moon was canon, And whats an "OUTLIER"??, and other beams have left the planet, but they haven't been depicted in the same as Piccolo's....
"Outlier" means that something is far beyond what was shown in the entire series .

And even if beams like kamehameha , etc from gohan , buu , cell , vegeta , They never have the same speed as this one (Despite that piccolo's attack should obviously be slower than theirs)

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"Outlier" means that something is far beyond what was shown in the entire series .

And even if beams like kamehameha , etc from gohan , buu , cell , vegeta , They never have the same speed as this one (Despite that piccolo's attack should obviously be slower than theirs)
I keep telling my brother the same thing as well, but then he brings up goku's spaceship traveling to namek and Goku's spaceship was traveling at least 50 times light and Goku's Kamehameha was faster then the space ship itself..Goku Kamehameha helped Goku escape the burning stars gravitational waves....(not sure if its canon) and Vegita's Final flash looked liked it also left to space in an instant and became a light glimmer in an instant...And also tell me what you think about the Video link calculations?? Are they legit, or is he committing a mortal sin??

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Lol , What the actual fuck does the ships even mean in here ? How does he even know that the speed of the attack is faster than the ship . And tell him to stop bringing up non canon .

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Lol , What the actual fuck does the ships even mean in here ? How does he even know that the speed of the attack is faster than the ship . And tell him to stop bringing up non canon .
I found that its non canon..What did you think about The video's calculations??

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The whole thing is bullshit .

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The whole thing is bullshit .
Even though i don't agree with everything on the video presented, what was bullshit about the video, the way he calculated his feats??? And i also have a question for you, do you believe in any point and time that DBZ characters are FTL?? oh that they can even planet Bust??

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If any one can spread the word or at least tell folks about the thread, it would be great...I'll love to see how ppl would dissect this video and debunk it!! Alot of DBZ feats are all theoretical and hypothesis...but still, i believe the video has some base...

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Why does the OBD consist of nothing but one liners and one word statements with no evidence to back there claims???

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Why does the OBD consist of nothing but one liners and one word statements with no evidence to back there claims???

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Even though i don't agree with everything on the video presented, what was bullshit about the video, the way he calculated his feats??? And i also have a question for you, do you believe in any point and time that DBZ characters are FTL?? oh that they can even planet Bust??
Fucker implies that frieza can make a dozen supernovas with the same heat , Scales power levels linearly , That moving faster than the eye can see (To be honest eyes than can see massively hypersonic speeds ) is >> ftl speeds , Says that dbz operates with different logic than dc but uses that to get zupermans powerlevel


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Pretty much , And stop using this brother's excuse , You clearly supported the video earlier .

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We all know Dragonball characters are massively FTL since part 1, stop downplaying.

You want a serious answer?Travelling from Earth to the moon is not FTL, it was'nt for Roshi's nor was it for Piccolo. You can use the speed of ki blasts to claim characters move or react at those speeds but the number of times they fail to move at mach 10,000+ or whatever is staggering, PIS can only work as excuse so many times, Toriyama clearly does not take into account the speed of those ki blasts travelling such distances let alone the fact that characters who react or dodge those must be just as fast. Yes we're already violating author intent by putting those characters against other fiction but that does'nt mean you make characters who don't move at certain suddenly move at those.

When Gotenks does his travel across the world feat, it's clear that was meant to show how much faster he was than all the other characters at that point not Super Buu or Gohan full potential or some upgraded Buu form or Vegetto. No way can any character below Gotenks move just as fast if not faster which puts an end to lightspeed because Gotenks did not move lightspeed. Goku needed to IT across a distance because he would'nt make it to Tien in time while Cell was walking towards him, a FTL character or mach 10,000+ character would have made it there in time.

Moving faster than eye can see does not make someone lightspeed, that is such a common display of "superspeed" especially in anime/manga that the sheer number of FTL characters would be hilarious.

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We all know Dragonball characters are massively FTL since part 1, stop downplaying.
Infinitely to be precise .

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We all know Dragonball characters are Omnipresent since part 1, stop downplaying.
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