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Old 06-07-2012, 06:49 PM   #1
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Old 06-07-2012, 07:22 PM   #2
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Being bloodlusted, Sasuke will imediately use Susanoo and Gaara will go airborne and will try to make more sand when he has the chance. However, a bloodlusted Sasuke probably won´t give him an opportunity for that, but Gaara will realise that it´s his only shot to win against Sasuke with Susanoo.

Sasuke will spam Amaterasu against Gaara, just for him to block every shot with his sand. Gaara with manga knowledge knows external attacks won´t work against Susanoo. I don´t know if Gaara has enough sand to protect himself and at the same time make more sand. But if he has, he´ll make the soil below Sasuke turn to sand.

This if Sasuke stays in the ground. Seeing Amaterasu being blocked, Sasuke can summon a taka and go airborne. However, I believe Sasuke will rely on his arrows first, and those arrows may take down Gaara if it can bypass his defenses.

If Gaara survives long enough for pulling Sasuke out of his Susanoo, then he has a chance to win if he´s fast enough with another sand attack.

Sasuke has some options to take out Gaara, while Gaara has a slim chance to win.

I´ll give it to Sasuke 9/10 times with high diff.

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Old 06-07-2012, 07:44 PM   #3
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Bloodlusted, and at this range, Sasuke will probably resort to his big guns right off the bat and Gaara won't have much of an opportunity. Gaara has never seen Amaterasu actually initiated, so he could fall victim to that, especially if the flame is large enough. Otherwise, he is going to be under a wall of Enton, and quite frankly, Sasuke's Susano'o ought to be able to break through his sand early on. If Gaara gets airborne, he can survive most of what Sasuke can throw at him, except Kirin.

I'll give this to Sasuke with mid-high difficulty.

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Old 06-08-2012, 05:23 AM   #4
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Sasuke starts spamming enton magatamas, amaterasu, arrows right from the start at at gaara. with just gourd sand, Gaara gets demolished.

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Old 06-08-2012, 05:32 AM   #5
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Sasuke's arrows vs. Garra sand doesn't bold well for Garra.

In recent chapters, his sand defense seemed to be overwhelmed by a volley of swords from Susano..

We've seen Sasuke's arrows pierce through a think trunk of Makoton.

There is also the chidori variants which, which are tailored made to breach defenses.

Overall with no "Favorable" conditions for garra such as field advantage, he doesn't stand much of a chance against someone with Sasuke's arsenal based entirely off his latest feats.

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Old 06-08-2012, 07:28 AM   #6
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^Gaara's exhausted from all the chakra he's using fighting many kages, MADARA,

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Gaara hasn't enough sand here+Sasuke is bloodlusted so I ll give it to Sasuke with hard diff. Main problem for Gaara here is that he is limited only to gourd sand and have to grind more while BL Sasuke will immediately start to attack him with his strongest jutsu. He will burn though his gourd sand quite fast with 2-3 amaterasu shots and a couple of enton magatamas. Though this will take a great toll on Sasuke s chakra.

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Sasuke wins low difficulty.

Bloodlusted means instant Susanoo followed by arrow spam (which Kakashi a mid-Kage tier shinobi with much better reaction feats then Gaara had to resort to Kamui to escape canonically), Enton magatama spam and Amaterasu. Assuming Gaara can even survive the initial barrage he then attacks with V4 Susanoo and Enton swords.

MS Sasuke has the feats to be just better then Gaara and EMS Sasuke is hyped to be equal to KCM Naruto (not with feats though...) who is a good tier or 2 above Garra.

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Susanoo isn't instant and must go through stages to fully form.

Also Gaara's sand has shown it is fully capable to deal w/ anything Susanoo has. And it isn't like Susanoo arrows have any impressive offensive capabilities.

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Susanoo isn't instant and must go through stages to fully form.

Also Gaara's sand has shown it is fully capable to deal w/ anything Susanoo has. And it isn't like Susanoo arrows have any impressive offensive capabilities.
Er..this wasn't instant but it was pretty damn fast.
http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/574/9
You see the Zetsu only get a little closer and V4 Susanno is out.

Yes but the sheer speed of them is where their potency lies, I'm not going to argue that Gaara's sand can't block an arrow. However with a starting distance of 30m a barrage of Enton magatamas and arrows is going to break through Gaara's defense. Madara's magatama's almost broke through Gaara + Oonoki's defense, one or two arrows and some Magatamas can break through Gaara only in my opinion.

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^No I don't see, Can't view mangareader.

Either way Gaara has shown that he is fully capable and has the necessary defenses to block Amaterasu Magatamas and Susanoo arrows, the latter of which hasnt shown to pierce anything w/ a slight defensive feat.

30m is a good distance between the two. And I think you under the concept that if Gaara has a defensive layer of sand blocking a Magatama, that the same sand will keep blocking magatama, whereas Gaara's defense is contanstly flowing making new layers of defense.

Madara is on a whole nother level than any other shinobi bar Hiruzen and Hashirama. I wouldn't doubt that his Magatamas are far> Sasuke's or Itachi's. Quit comparing Madara's techs and their feats to Itachi and Sasuke.

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Susanoo isn't instant and must go through stages to fully form.

Also Gaara's sand has shown it is fully capable to deal w/ anything Susanoo has. And it isn't like Susanoo arrows have any impressive offensive capabilities.
Sasuke can directly form his full Susano'o [1].

Sasuke's arrows have shown a comparable strength (and a superior speed) to Madara's Magatama; i don't think that Gaara can effectively defend himself from Amaterasu and Arrows spam.

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No they haven't, they couldn't peirce a tree, nor a snake and a spike sticking out of the ground. Their fucking laughable.


And Gaara is extremely exhausted against Madara, look at what he's already protected against. Attacks that are way better than anything EMS Sasuke has shown.

WOW Amaterasu Magatamas pierced Zetsus.

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^Gaara's exhausted from all the chakra he's using fighting many kages, MADARA,
Given, but granted he hasn't used many sand attacks on the scale of his part 1/Deidara battle self, throughout this war.

His abilities have primarily been confined to a support role, and his defensive potential of his sand is still suspect.

Remember Magatama would have breached his shield defense is not from assistance from Onoki.

Considering Sasuke's arrows, have showcased and likely have more "Penetrating" power than the individual magatama's themselves I'd still compose the same argument above.

Garra's arsenal is potent and effective, but it's evolved to more of a support role...... One on One anyone who is capable of "Breaching/outpacing his sand defense" is capable of besting him.

Now, there are very few who can do the above, however Sasuke is one of them.

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No they haven't, they couldn't peirce a tree, nor a snake and a spike sticking out of the ground. Their fucking laughable.


And Gaara is extremely exhausted against Madara, look at what he's already protected against. Attacks that are way better than anything EMS Sasuke has shown.

WOW Amaterasu Magatamas pierced Zetsus.
One arrows is clearly not enough. The problem is that, given the mindset, Sasuke will start to spam Amaterasu and Arrows or Amaterasu Magatama, and Gaara just doesn't have enough starting sand for all this attacks.

The fact that he was exhausted does not influence the sand's durability.

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^But the sand in his gourd is both faster and stronger than any other sand.

Gaara's sand is as strong as steel, an Amaterasu Magatama hasn't shown anthing spectacular.

Sasuke can only shoot 1 arrow at a time. Not to mention that Gaara fights with clones.

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Susanoo isn't instant and must go through stages to fully form.

Also Gaara's sand has shown it is fully capable to deal w/ anything Susanoo has. And it isn't like Susanoo arrows have any impressive offensive capabilities.
From a plot point of view alone do you think it makes sense for Gaara to be stronger than Sasuke?

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Sasuke via high difficulty. Gaara isn't an opponent to be taken lightly, given he has two Kages being beaten by him under his belt. One arrow is likely not going to be enough to pierce his defense, considering it tanked a fully formed Susano'o (minus armor) sword and required five total just to break it. Not to mention he can block Enton and Amaterasu.

But given Sasuke's capability of fully forming in seconds, Gaara doesn't have many options of penetrating it. He can take flight...but so can Sasuke with is hawk summon.

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Susanoo is slow, Gaara's sand can get through it quickly and then its GG. Gaara has a number of ways to win while Sasuke has none.

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So, Gaara can defend himself well enough so as not to die from being hit by four susanoo swords (from madara, of all susanoo users..) and still be able to get up. I'd say his sand is pretty freakin' realiable when dealing with Susanoo, he's already shown to be able to pull Madara OUT of his susanoo and fling him around. His sand has also shown to block amaterasu when he met sasuke at the kage summit, and fast/durable enought to stop four susanoo blades from doing any real damage to him aside from knocking him backwards. Gaara wins high dif.

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