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Old 04-30-2012, 12:30 PM   #1
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When tobi fought Konan, he claimed that it was him who gave nagato the rinnegan, and subsequently formed the akatsuki.

Later we see the real madara, who expresses disbelief that nagato betrayed him and never used Rinne Tensei to revive him.

And later we see Tobi and his Edo Jin with their Sharinegan. I understand where these sharingan came from, but Does tobi have a secret stash of rinnegan eyes that he keeps laying around his secret lab?

Will he give a couple to Sasuke?

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Old 04-30-2012, 12:35 PM   #2
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just to point out, tobi didn't give/implant sharingans in his edo jins...

he just used those jins as his path...like how nagato used those 6 bodies for his paths.

that's why the edo jins have a sharingan and a rinnegan, just like tobi does.

and i'm pretty sure if you try to pluck out the eyes of edo tenseis, it'll just regenerate...

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Old 04-30-2012, 12:43 PM   #3
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^ Oh, so it was like gedo mazo chakra transmission?

Thanks for the explaination.

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Old 04-30-2012, 12:54 PM   #4
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Tobi likely deactivated Madara's Rinnegan put Nagato a under genjutsu when he was young and implanted the Rinnegan into his head.

The six paths likely take on the dojutsu of there user he doesn't have extras lying around.

Sasuke will be getting his own Rinnegan at some point he doesn't need Madara's since we know EMS can be turned into a Rinnegan with Senju DNA.

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Oh? Now it makes sense why Six Paths had Rinnegan.. xD

How Tobi gave Nagato the Rinnegan?
Simples! Madara said that he got his Rinnegan shortly before his death so at that point, Tobi must've been created (I assume he's Zetsu with Madara's and Hashi's DNA) which explains why Madara knew Nagato as a kid.* Tobi was there to probably convience Nagato to use Rinne Tensei on Madara to bring him back to life if of course Nagato didn't die and Tsuki no Me was done (Naruto most likely captured or at least Bee?).
Current Edo Madara was brought back as he was during his prime, hence he looks so young and Hashi's face was added by Kabuto so yeah.

* We know Hashi and Mito were about same age and so was Madara. Mito was alive when Nagato was a kid so Madara could live that long easily as well, in fact he might've been in maybe his 70s at most (Nagato and Kushina are same age or at least around it, and Kushina has had Kyuubi sealed inside of her when she was a kid whilst Mito was nearing her 80s perhaps.

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He ripped out Nagato's eyes and stuffed his (Madara's eyes) in its place.

The simplest answer is usually the best answer.

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Tobi also claimed he was Madara.

Tobi is a liar.

If Nagato's eyes were a "gift" then it was because the real Madara gave them to him (Or had an intercourse with Nagato's mother )

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Tobi also claimed he was Madara.

Tobi is a liar.

If Nagato's eyes were a "gift" then it was because the real Madara gave them to him (Or had an intercourse with Nagato's mother )
Tobi is a liar, but he doesn't simply lie for the sake of lying.

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with his hands..

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Tobi is a liar, but he doesn't simply lie for the sake of lying.
He called himself Madara in his mind when he was talking to himself.

When Tobi said he gave Nagato's eyes Madara was not revealed, so probably Kishi said that at the time, just like tobi said in his mind "My power, Madara's power"

Madara said "That brat Nagato grew up" or something like that.

I see more posible that Madara was the one that gave Nagato the Rinnegan somehow and not Tobi.

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Tobi also claimed he was Madara.

Tobi is a liar.

If Nagato's eyes were a "gift" then it was because the real Madara gave them to him (Or had an intercourse with Nagato's mother )
well tobi was posing as uchiha madara when he made that claim

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How he gave them, we don't really know. There might've been an operation? Or it could be something else which may link to the the scar he has on each shoulder.

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He called himself Madara in his mind when he was talking to himself.

When Tobi said he gave Nagato's eyes Madara was not revealed, so probably Kishi said that at the time, just like tobi said in his mind "My power, Madara's power"

Madara said "That brat Nagato grew up" or something like that.

I see more posible that Madara was the one that gave Nagato the Rinnegan somehow and not Tobi.
Pretty sure he said that out loud, to Konan and Deva Pain.

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Tobi once worked with Madara I believe. He was likely instructed to give Nagato Madara's eyes after he died.

I suspect he did it at the time Nagato's parents were killed.

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well tobi was posing as uchiha madara when he made that claim
Yeah, that's why i say Madara gave Nagato the eyes, not Tobi.

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Pretty sure he said that out loud, to Konan and Deva Pain.
Then i made a mistake, but there's a panel where he's talking to himself, i just don't remember wich one is.

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Probably he transplanted the Rinnegan on Nagato when he was very young

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Tobi once worked with Madara I believe. He was likely instructed to give Nagato Madara's eyes after he died.

I suspect he did it at the time Nagato's parents were killed.
Tobi and Madara have been working on this plan together it was even outright stated by Madara himself.

http://www.manga-access.com/manga/N/...chapter/561/10

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I don't think tobi was telling the truth

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I think Tobi was speaking as Madara in that scene, by which I mean he was speaking of things Madara had done and acting as though it was he who had done them because he was pretending to be Madara.

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Most likely by transplant, a fuinjutsu might have been used to deny nagato access to madara's sharingan/ems side of things.

Nagato's first activation of those eyes is too reminiscent of the cirumstances uchiha's are shown to experience when awakening the sharingan.

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