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Old 03-17-2012, 04:08 AM   #1
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Minato VS Sasori

Location: Where sakura and chiyo fought sasori

Distance: 50m

Mindset: Bloodlust for sasori, intent to kill for Minato

Knowledge: Sasori has manga knowledge, MINATO HAS NO KNOWLEDGE.

Restrictions/conditions: Gamabunta is restricted, shiki fujin will result in a tie, Sasori starts in Hiruko.

Let the battle begin!!!

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Old 03-17-2012, 05:19 AM   #2
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minato still dogdes everything.. while just watching what sasori's skill set is..

and at a certain point there will be a seal close by sasori and he dies ...

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If he begins in Hiruko he hasn't access to the most dangerous tools in his offence, hence all the advantages he has gained count for nothing, and he would likely lose. Were he out with his 100's of puppets or kazekage it becomes interesting. I'd still be inclined to go for Minato, but it becomes competative.

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Old 03-17-2012, 05:55 AM   #4
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Minato tags Hiruko's tail and proceeds to FTG troll him the entire fight landing a few rasengans here and there until Sasori is forced to reveal his true form & 3rd kazekage & 100 puppets which will still prove futile because even Sakura could dodge them, another tag on Sasori and we repeat the trolling cycle

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This wont be that easy because Sasori can replace his body parts and heart container with over puppets. Also 3rd Kazekage s magnetic field would be quite troublesome for Minato. Still I think he would win but with hard-extreme diff.

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Sasori uses his Iron sand to mess with the Kunai's location and can also cover himself with a lot of poison gas and since he doesn't need to breath he can just chill in there while Minato will need to get close in order to attack him. (Remember, no knowledge for Minato)

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Old 03-17-2012, 10:05 AM   #7
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I am a follower of the philosophy that every character has a bad match up, Sasori is definitely one for Minato. Sasori has large AoE attacks with a one hit kill. Minato is more precise and has a few one hit kill techniques mainly Rasengan and a Kunai slash to the neck.
If Sasori starts in Hiruko Hiruko will get destroyed instantly with Minato teleporting over him FTG style the second the match starts and destroys Hiruko with a Rasengan. This would be Sasori's chance to summon the third while Minato tries to slash his neck with a Kunai. Unfortunately there is only one place to kill Sasori but Minato would need a lucky shot before Sasori summons the third. http://www.mangareader.net/93-275-14...apter-270.html Minato isn't fast enough in base to avoid this especially if Sasori covers the Kunai. If Sasori has manga knowledge he knows from the 3rd shinobi world war what Minato does. If Minato can destroy the third Kazekage first then he might win if not his chances are drastically lowered. As for the hundred puppets Minato can avoid them and eventually figure out where to hit Sasori.
Minato hard difficulty takes this.

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Minato won't have much problem against Hiruko or Sasori's 100 puppets--they are, after all, basically wooden dolls that will fall to a single Rasengan (perhaps several, in the case of Hiruko).

Sandaime Kazekage is a difficult one, though. Minato will have to rely on putting a seal directly on the Sandaime puppet in order to do his normal FTG fuckery, as his metal kunai will be rendered next to useless by the Kazekage's magnetic abilities. Still, though, Minato's combination of speed, reflexes, and just the right amount of firepower in Rasengan should let him take it.

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I am a follower of the philosophy that every character has a bad match up, Sasori is definitely one for Minato. Sasori has large AoE attacks with a one hit kill. Minato is more precise and has a few one hit kill techniques mainly Rasengan and a Kunai slash to the neck.
If Sasori starts in Hiruko Hiruko will get destroyed instantly with Minato teleporting over him FTG style the second the match starts and destroys Hiruko with a Rasengan. This would be Sasori's chance to summon the third while Minato tries to slash his neck with a Kunai. Unfortunately there is only one place to kill Sasori but Minato would need a lucky shot before Sasori summons the third. http://www.mangareader.net/93-275-14...apter-270.html Minato isn't fast enough in base to avoid this especially if Sasori covers the Kunai. If Sasori has manga knowledge he knows from the 3rd shinobi world war what Minato does. If Minato can destroy the third Kazekage first then he might win if not his chances are drastically lowered. As for the hundred puppets Minato can avoid them and eventually figure out where to hit Sasori.
Minato hard difficulty takes this.
Agreed.

A bad match-up for Minato, but with some difficulty he still takes this.

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Minato dodges everything he can do then kills him. Iron sand controlling kunai doesn't mean shit when Minato can put a seal on stuff he touches. The second he touches Sasori, it's over. Sasori is still a bad matchup for Minato so Minato takes it with mid difficulty.

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Sasori wins with Ironsand or 100 puppets from the start.

he might die if he starts in hiruko & toys around but i guess knowledge means he has heard of ''the yellow flash''.
So i'll take it he brings 1 of them out while still in Hiruko...

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Sasori wins with Ironsand or 100 puppets from the start.

he might die if he starts in hiruko & toys around but i guess knowledge means he has heard of ''the yellow flash''.
So i'll take it he brings 1 of them out while still in Hiruko...
Proof that he can control them while in Hiruko? Also, it won't matter because he's to slow in Hiruko to avoid Minato and his rasengan is destructive enough to ruin him.

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Old 03-17-2012, 10:48 AM   #13
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well if sasori is slow he should just speed-up himsef

the point i was tryin to make is that Sasori gets serious before exhausting hiruko/gets it broken. he can just disregard it asap.

(i.e. its not reasonable to assess a limitation(hiruko) to sasori especially since he has some knowledge & is a master of his craft)


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Old 03-17-2012, 12:26 PM   #14
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Sasori wins,not only he has the knowledge advantage which is key in deciding who wins and who loses a fight,add to that he's quite an intelligent shinobi himself,then factor in the initial 50 meters distance which give him time enough to activate any of the puppets in his arsenal.

Sure Minato will be dodging most of the direct hits,but then when it comes to CQC he'll have t avoid a poison smokescreen which would be fatal for him,or even the 3rd Kakezage could mess up the kunai tom foolery of Minato and negate hims main combat style

It basically is a one sided match...

It would have been more debatable if the knowledge was or 0 for both,or just manga knowledge

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Old 03-17-2012, 12:57 PM   #15
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that's it. Minato doesn't need FTG anyway.Sasori lose against Sai , Kankurō , Sakura. I can't see him win he can't do anything against sai's speed.What can he do about Minato's speed?.Even without FTG.Finally he can always summoning any frog for this fighting if he need that.

sorry about any mistake.

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minato in a blitz.

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If he starts in Hiruko, then he has very little chance of this. His speed and mobility is almost nonexistent in that puppet armour, and while he does retain some element of unpredictability with his traps and various weapons, they are nothing beyond the capability of Minato. With his speed and techniques, evading Hiruko's attacks shouldn't be too difficult, and once close enough he can smash him with a Rasengan (which, really, is his only viable option of destroying Hiruko and Minato knows it). Also, due to the nature of Rasengan, it's possible that Sasori flimsy body will be crushed or splintered beyond repair during the 'spinning' phase of the attack.

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Minato wins. Not having knowledge of something means little to Minato. For one, Minato dodges everything to begin with regardless of whether or not he thinks it will be deadly so the likelihood of Minato being killed by a seemingly harmless iron sand attack is roughly zero unless he has absolutely no way to dodge it in the first place. His second advantage is his mind. Once he sees something used he can accurately analyze the jutsu. Even not knowing what puppetry is, it would not take him long to discover what's going on.

In terms off his combat Minato has the ultimate defense in Space Time Barrier and ultimate dodge in Hiraishin. His offensive style is to kill with one hit. Puppetry is a ranged style that relies on misdirection, tricks and weapons to win and while Sasori does have instant kills with his poisons he still has to hit Minato to win.

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Satetsu Kaiho will be a jutsu Minato will have to avoid. With no knowledge and his speed he'll likely dodge most or all the attacks and with intent to kill he'll be looking to tag Sasori which would be great meaning he can rasengan in and out but Sasori can switch bodies and try to land a trap tactic with his poison. It all depends if Minato finds out about that big bullseye on Sasori's chest,if he does he wins this. And knowing his intelligence I wouldnt put it past knowing how he can quickly counter a situation and react accordingly while also planning ahead. But Sasori is very intelligent as well so it wouldnt be too easy. But I still say Minato eventually finds out about the bullseye and wins

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If Sasori even tries to use Iron Sand, he risks having it redirected back at him via a time-space barrier.

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