02-10-2012, 07:52 PM
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Muu and Nidaime Mizukage vs.Jiraiya and Orochimaru
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Starting distance: 100 meters
Location: FOREST OF DEATH AT NIGHT!
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my 2nd match with the nidaime duo in forest of death 
everyone remembers Joakim3's "Gorilla Tactics" 
Last edited by raizen28; 02-10-2012 at 08:17 PM.
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02-10-2012, 07:58 PM
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Probably Jirayiya and Oro. With the help of the two toads they can reveal each of the opponent's mirage/invisibility so I don't see them having a trouble with that.
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02-11-2012, 03:01 PM
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I'd go with Oro and Jiraiya. Miz needs to summon a clam to be effective, hence Jiraiya and Orochimaru are not crippled by offensive pressure to stop them summoning their respective trump cards. Orochimaru has access to ET thus has access to bringer of darkness which is as nasty as either of his opponents hax abilities. With his barrier Jiraiya can likely sense Muu who is not above being sensed so that's his main game gone. I think this could go their way provided Orochimaru sees fit to use ET.
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02-11-2012, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by HiddenCornsHandsomeDevil
I'd go with Oro and Jiraiya. Miz needs to summon a clam to be effective, hence Jiraiya and Orochimaru are not crippled by offensive pressure to stop them summoning their respective trump cards. Orochimaru has access to ET thus has access to bringer of darkness which is as nasty as either of his opponents hax abilities. With his barrier Jiraiya can likely sense Muu who is not above being sensed so that's his main game gone. I think this could go their way provided Orochimaru sees fit to use ET.
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yes Interesting. I want to have Oro unrestricted so it be a full bloodlusted battle
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02-11-2012, 08:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HiddenCornsHandsomeDevil
I'd go with Oro and Jiraiya. Miz needs to summon a clam to be effective, hence Jiraiya and Orochimaru are not crippled by offensive pressure to stop them summoning their respective trump cards. Orochimaru has access to ET thus has access to bringer of darkness which is as nasty as either of his opponents hax abilities. With his barrier Jiraiya can likely sense Muu who is not above being sensed so that's his main game gone. I think this could go their way provided Orochimaru sees fit to use ET.
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I'll go with this post. Jiraiya can detect Muu with his Barrier and therefore he and Orochimaru are able to attack, same goes for TrollKage.
Orochimaru with the use of ET makes this a sure win for him and Jiraiya.
Unless Muu and TrollKage can actually defeat Jiraiya (who IMO is > them both), Orochimaru and immortal 1st and 2nd Hokages ...
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02-11-2012, 09:12 PM
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I wonder if Orochimaru's snakes can see Muu and the Mizukage?
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02-12-2012, 12:55 AM
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ill go with muu and nidaime. team 2 cant counter the genjutsu until they figure it out and jiraiya took a long time to figure out shared vision. jiraita will need a barrier to detect muu but if he finds him hes getting jinton to the face. terrible match. the nidaime kages godstomp.
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02-12-2012, 01:11 AM
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The location puts Jiraiya and Oro at a disadvantage. Muu and the Nidaime can do a lot of running, sneaking, hiding, and trolling there. While the Sennin duo are distracted by Joki Boy or clam genjutsu, they are vulnerable to Jintons from behind. They'll have trouble finding the Nidaime while protecting against Joki Boy, though SM Jiraiya's sensing abilities may help them here. Overall, I see the kage duo winning. Their location and sneaky fighting styles just benefit them too much here.
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02-12-2012, 01:23 AM
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ill go with muu and nidaime. team 2 cant counter the genjutsu until they figure it out and jiraiya took a long time to figure out shared vision.
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Shared vision ain't got shit to do with Muu and Trollkage. Jiraiya detection barrier will make both their jutsu futile. Muu's invisibility becomes moot and they detect trollkage's true location. Nidaime hokage will also help locate trollkage with his finger tracking jutsu.
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Originally Posted by Taijukage
jiraita will need a barrier to detect muu but if he finds him hes getting jinton to the face. terrible match. the nidaime kages godstomp.
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huh? How the heck is he getting jinton to the face when he can freaking evade that shit? The barrier allows him to track anything that moves.
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Originally Posted by Bukhara Burnes
The location puts Jiraiya and Oro at a disadvantage. Muu and the Nidaime can do a lot of running, sneaking, hiding, and trolling there.
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All of that will be useless when Jiraiya can track them and nidaime hokage can do the same
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Originally Posted by Bukhara Burnes
While the Sennin duo are distracted by Joki Boy or clam genjutsu, they are vulnerable to Jintons from behind.
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And Muu will be distracted by shodai's genjutsu
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Originally Posted by Bukhara Burnes
They'll have trouble finding the Nidaime while protecting against Joki Boy, though SM Jiraiya's sensing abilities may help them here. Overall, I see the kage duo winning. Their location and sneaky fighting styles just benefit them too much here.
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Finding Nidaime and Muu is EASY for those two.
1. Jiraiya's barrier allows him to track anyone who moves
2. Nidaime Hokage can track him too with his finger jutsu
3. Ma can smell trollkage with her senjutsu powered tongue
Joki Boy won't do shit when shodai can use mokuton to protect against the explosions. And the location gives Orochimaru an advantage because shodai can use even more wood
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02-12-2012, 01:50 AM
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Jiraiya detection barrier will make both their jutsu futile.
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by the time he detects it, muu will just prep jinton or take flight.
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Nidaime hokage will also help locate trollkage with his finger tracking jutsu.
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tobirama is in this?
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How the heck is he getting jinton to the face when he can freaking evade that shit?
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how? its AoE and muu will most likely fire it from the sky. numbers dont matter to jinton users. and out of everyone in the alliance, it took gaara, onoki and naruto combined to land a hit. muu is faster than jiraiya and oro anyway. he dodged RM Naruto clones planetary rasengan.
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02-12-2012, 09:06 AM
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oro and jiraiya have the better teamwork, so that already should give the sannin the upperhand.
nidaime may have joki boy, but with jiraiya's huge arsenal and summons should be able to hold off nidaime quite handily and oro can keep muu at bay with all the snake summons
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02-12-2012, 10:11 AM
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Mori No Senju Ichizoku
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Originally Posted by Taijukage
by the time he detects it, muu will just prep jinton or take flight.
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So? Whether he takes flight or not, Jiraiya will always know where he is. The detection barrier can cover the entire battlefield. So what if he prepares jinton? Jinton can be evaded. So what if he takes flight, Jiraiya's wild lion mane can capture him. Shodai hokage can capture him with mokuton
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tobirama is in this?
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I guess someone forgot to read where it says edo tensei is not restricted
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how? its AoE and muu will most likely fire it from the sky. numbers dont matter to jinton users.
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Jinton will only damage you if it makes contact. Orochimaru and Jiraiya can avoid that shit
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and out of everyone in the alliance, it took gaara, onoki and naruto combined to land a hit.
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This is irrelevant because Muu did not fight everyone in the alliance.
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muu is faster than jiraiya and oro anyway. he dodged RM Naruto clones planetary rasengan.
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1. Muu is faster than Jiraiya? How you figure?
2. He dodged Naruto because he sensed him, the same thing that Jiraiya's barrier allows him to do, sense him the minute he so much as he moves
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02-12-2012, 01:14 PM
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yes jinton vs edo's hmm.....
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02-12-2012, 01:18 PM
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Jinton vs edos certainly is interesting and I'd actually go as far as to say that should a jinton connect it could take out most anyone, certainly anyone here I'd think. But for it to take out the sheer volume of people present on Jiraiya and Orochimaru's side when we've established they have a way of sensing him I find hard to believe.
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02-12-2012, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Orochimaruwantsyourbody
I wonder if Orochimaru's snakes can see Muu and the Mizukage?
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Snakes can sense vibrations in the ground, so yeah probably. It should work for the Nidaime Mizukage, but I'm not too sure about Muu when he's flying.
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02-12-2012, 02:28 PM
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Jiraiya and Orochimaru hands down, Jiraiya with pa and ma has quite the amount of options to detect Muu and the nidaime mizukage. Jokey boy makes mizukage weak, finding mizukage aint no problem with HM sensing abilities, Ma's tongue and the barrier. Lets say jokey boy explodes once, Orochimaru can summon the 3 gates for example. Finding muu is possible with the barrier, if he wants to attack he is not invincible... The splitting might be nasty though. Jinton is to slow to actually hit.
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02-12-2012, 04:13 PM
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Jiraiya's detection barrier counters the mirrage and Mu's invisibility. dont think Oro or Jiraiya will be able to dodge Jinton, but they have summons to deal with that stuff, one of them can attack Mu while he tries to target one of them. Yomi Numa takes care of Joki Boi, and either one of them can hunt down trollkage with their superior arsenal.
The sannin duo take it, mid-high diff.
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02-12-2012, 04:28 PM
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Jiraiya's detection barrier counters the mirrage and Mu's invisibility. dont think Oro or Jiraiya will be able to dodge Jinton, but they have summons to deal with that stuff, one of them can attack Mu while he tries to target one of them. Yomi Numa takes care of Joki Boi, and either one of them can hunt down trollkage with their superior arsenal.
The sannin duo take it, mid-high diff.
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Gamabunta would be a big target for jinton 
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02-12-2012, 05:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by raizen28
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Starting distance: 100 meters
Location: FOREST OF DEATH AT NIGHT!
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The Kages win.
Muu would be prompted to use his invisibility whilst the Mizukage will be prompted to use the clam; the distance allows this.
This is pretty much a stomp as the lack of knowledge from the Sannin mean it can possibly be a Genjutsu + Jinton and/or Jokey Boy combo rape.
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02-12-2012, 06:28 PM
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100 meters + at night i can see jiraiya soloing, he can easily find cover to go into SM, his speed and strength in SM are too much for either of these 2 to handle, we've seen he could cope with fighting multiple high level opponents at once. He also has two counters to both of their stealth jutsu with the barrier and ma's tongue. Hes also great at fighting using his souroundings.
Jiraiya solo's high difficulty due to the conditions.
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