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Old 10-19-2011, 01:50 PM   #1
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Zaru? Bansho Tenin > Susanoo

After seeing how Gaara was able to throw Madara out of his shell with a PHYSICAL attack, there is no reason that a NON-PHYSICAL attack like Bansho Tenin cannot do the same:

1) Use one arm to push Susanoo away.
2) Use the other to pull user up close and smack him.

Edit: For those who missed the Nagato vs Itachi/Naruto/Bee fight, look at the start where Nagato used 1 hand to BT Naruto and the other to BT a rock to hurl them at opposite directions toward each other.

I guess there is no debate now. Itachi fans cannot neglect the fact that in a REAL Nagato vs Itachi battle, there is no contest. Tsukuyomi = nullified by a more evolved EMS, Amaterasu = nullified by absorption, Shinra Tensei etc. Susanoo = nullified by Bansho Tenin, Shinra Tensei or Chibaku Tensei.

The debate is over. Rinnegan > EMS > MS > S > Byakugan > eye of Sauron > normal eye > blind eye > no eye > 'eye' seek you (ICQ)


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Old 10-19-2011, 01:52 PM   #2
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Of course, any hypothetical scenarios proposed must be fact if they sound right.

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Old 10-19-2011, 01:54 PM   #3
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And 'lo and behold three years after the battle of Deva Pain vs Susanoo began on NF finally we have a clear victor.

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Old 10-19-2011, 01:54 PM   #4
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I can see Nagato BT'ing Itachi out of his susano

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Old 10-19-2011, 01:55 PM   #5
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Its like a breathe of frikin fresh air.

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Old 10-19-2011, 01:57 PM   #6
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b4 shitstorm i'll say this... can't we all just get along?

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Old 10-19-2011, 02:01 PM   #7
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There was a lot of PNJ here.

Every time Sasuke and Itachi moved, Susano moved along with them.

When Nagato used Chibaku Tensei it pulled Susano along with Itachi.

Basically what happened here made no sense.

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Well at this point even doton can bypass Susano. Every jutsu has a weakness anyway.

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Uchiha Rinnegan > EMS > Nagato Rinnegan > MS > Sharingan

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Wait what did the opening even read the chapter????

The sand underneath Susano, was not protected by Susano...

And what is the point of these threads anyway...

Hasn't it been confirmed to be a sharingan evolution????

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Old 10-19-2011, 02:04 PM   #11
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There was a lot of PNJ here.

Every time Sasuke and Itachi moved, Susano moved along with them.

When Nagato used Chibaku Tensei it pulled Susano along with Itachi.

Basically what happened here made no sense.
Yeah, but Gaara spoke as he figured out the mechanics of Susanoo. If that's true then KISHI wanted it that way, evidently. So, if you believe it's PNJ, it's more like he clearly decided to change it for better or worse.

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Old 10-19-2011, 02:04 PM   #12
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There was a lot of PNJ here.

Every time Sasuke and Itachi moved, Susano moved along with them.
We'v seen both Itachi and Sasuke outside their Susano. Itachi when they finished the fight with Nagato and Sasuke when he showcased his EMS Susano.

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When Nagato used Chibaku Tensei it pulled Susano along with Itachi.

Basically what happened here made no sense.
Chibaku Tensei pulls everything, while Bansho Tenin can pull a specific target.

The events in this chapter make perfect sense.

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Uchiha Rinnegan > EMS > Nagato Rinnegan > MS > Sharingan
Mind explaining how did you reach that conclusion?

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Old 10-19-2011, 02:05 PM   #14
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Yes, and end the day gangbanging Mei.

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Uchiha Rinnegan > EMS > Nagato Rinnegan > MS > Sharingan
Wrong. EMS is weaker than the Rinnegan period. Nagato was the strongest member of Akatsuki for a reason.

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Old 10-19-2011, 02:09 PM   #16
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There was a lot of PNJ here.

Every time Sasuke and Itachi moved, Susano moved along with them.

When Nagato used Chibaku Tensei it pulled Susano along with Itachi.

Basically what happened here made no sense.
It actually makes perfect sense. Gaara held Susanoo with his sand and pulled Madara out.

OP makes no sense. You can't use Shinra Tensei and Bansho Tennin simultaneously, so I have no idea what he means by "use one arm to hold Susanoo, the other to pull Uchiha out."

You use Bansho Tennin on an Uchiha, or any pulling technique, without securing Susanoo and the element of surprise (Sasuke used Susanoo to hold himself in place remember) then Susanoo comes along for the ride with the Uchiha.

A smart Rinnegan user uses Shinra Tensei to dissipate Susanoo, assuming it isn't hiding behind Yata's Mirror.

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Old 10-19-2011, 02:12 PM   #17
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Someone put Nikushimi on suicide watch.

EDIT: OP is most likely a dupe, but rep for you still.

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Old 10-19-2011, 02:12 PM   #18
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Wrong. EMS is weaker than the Rinnegan period. Nagato was the strongest member of Akatsuki for a reason.
Eh depends on what you mean by strongest. The Rinnegan has some serious nuking ability. However Tobi was the strongest 1v1 fighter in Akatsuki because his phasing and Izanagi are just that broken.

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Old 10-19-2011, 02:14 PM   #19
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Makes sense

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Old 10-19-2011, 02:16 PM   #20
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Well that was anticlimactic

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