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Old 10-10-2011, 06:59 PM   #1
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Area: Sannin Battlefield

Distance: 30 meters.

SoM: I.C , intent to kill.

Knowledge: Both have as much knowledge as when they fought against each other the first time.

Restrictions: "Oh Im such a Dumbass ! I forgot he can absorb my Jutsus !" (Plot dumbness)

Conditions: Naruto starts in RM but can change to SM anytime he wants to. This is Edo Nagato minus Edo Regenaration, that means its healthy Nagato but still with the lack of mobility he canonically had.

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Old 10-10-2011, 07:20 PM   #2
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if its as much knowledge as the first time they fought (invasion of pain) then nagato murders naruto with mid difficulty.

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Old 10-10-2011, 07:33 PM   #3
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It's cannon Nagato wins even with Kabuto controlling him with no killing intent.

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Old 10-10-2011, 07:36 PM   #4
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Nagato still rapes, we've already seen what would happen.

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Old 10-10-2011, 07:38 PM   #5
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What are you guys talking about? How does this match reflect canon? Naruto wasnt even in possession of Kage Bunshin....

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Old 10-10-2011, 08:48 PM   #6
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What are you guys talking about? How does this match reflect canon? Naruto wasnt even in possession of Kage Bunshin....
Kage Bunshin makes no difference when Nagato can keep Preta Path on the entire time.

That alone means 99% of Naruto's attacks are pointless.......if Naruto goes for taijutsu he gets a Shinra Tensei or Lazer Explosion to the face, short of Ma and Pa using Magen: Gama Rinshō, Naruto has nothing to hurt Nagato in this fight

Naruto gets stomped into the ground..... hard

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Old 10-10-2011, 09:34 PM   #7
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Canonically Naruto lost even with Killer Bee assisting him. Kage Bunshin make no difference if Preta Path can absorb all their techniques and Nagato can send them halfway across the world with Shinra Tensei.

Inb4 "Canon fight was PiS!"

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Old 10-10-2011, 10:51 PM   #8
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Area: Sannin Battlefield

Distance: 30 meters.

SoM: I.C , intent to kill.

Knowledge: Both have as much knowledge as when they fought against each other the first time.

Restrictions: "Oh Im such a Dumbass ! I forgot he can absorb my Jutsus !" (Plot dumbness)

Conditions: Naruto starts in RM but can change to SM anytime he wants to. This is Edo Nagato minus Edo Regenaration, that means its healthy Nagato but still with the lack of mobility he canonically had.
This is huge right here

With SM, Naruto one shots with Frog Katas and Kage Bunshins

Or uses Yatai Kuzushi during the ST interval(Nagato should have one)

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Old 10-10-2011, 11:07 PM   #9
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Kage Bunshin makes no difference when Nagato can keep Preta Path on the entire time.

That alone means 99% of Naruto's attacks are pointless.......if Naruto goes for taijutsu he gets a Shinra Tensei or Lazer Explosion to the face, short of Ma and Pa using Magen: Gama Rinshō, Naruto has nothing to hurt Nagato in this fight

Naruto gets stomped into the ground..... hard
Right, because Preta Path was oh-so-effective against Naruto's KB last time.

And also because Nagato or Preta have shown the ability to keep up the ninjutsu barrier constantly, and will do so In Character.



What happened against Nagato isn't going to happen in this scenario because PIS/CIS is restricted. If he gets held by Chameleon again, then he can just Rasengan it like he should have done in the first place.

Shinra Tensei wasn't even slightly effective against Naruto. And with multiple Bunshin throwing multiple FRS (Some possibly Henged) like how he almost defeated Deva, he can easily defeat the cripple Nagato. The only thing that can end the battle in Nagato's favor is Chibaku Tensei. However Nagato is vulnerable during it's use, so it may end up being more of a tie for him.

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if Naruto goes for taijutsu he gets a Shinra Tensei
Then in the five second interval the other Narutos close distance and punch his face in.

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Kage Bunshin makes no difference when Nagato can keep Preta Path on the entire time.

That alone means 99% of Naruto's attacks are pointless.......if Naruto goes for taijutsu he gets a Shinra Tensei or Lazer Explosion to the face, short of Ma and Pa using Magen: Gama Rinshō, Naruto has nothing to hurt Nagato in this fight

Naruto gets stomped into the ground..... hard
Because Naruto can also use Sage Mode to fight alongside KCM?

Because Preta can absorb Frog Katas...

Dont forget it did an adequate job taking away Naruto's cloak...

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Right, because Preta Path was oh-so-effective against Naruto's KB last time.

And also because Nagato or Preta have shown the ability to keep up the ninjutsu barrier constantly, and will do so In Character.



What happened against Nagato isn't going to happen in this scenario because PIS/CIS is restricted. If he gets held by Chameleon again, then he can just Rasengan it like he should have done in the first place.

Shinra Tensei wasn't even slightly effective against Naruto. And with multiple Bunshin throwing multiple FRS (Some possibly Henged) like how he almost defeated Deva, he can easily defeat the cripple Nagato. The only thing that can end the battle in Nagato's favor is Chibaku Tensei. However Nagato is vulnerable during it's use, so it may end up being more of a tie for him.
Yeah, because FRS is going to be useful when he has Preta Path. Right.

Where the hell did you get the idea that Nagato CAN'T keep Preta Path up?

And there was no PiS in the manga fight. There was nothing Naruto could have done. As soon as Nagato began the soul extraction, it was over. If it weren't for Itachi ripping Nagato's arm off, Naruto would be dead. Putting a Rasengan in the Chameleon wouldn't have helped him. Shinra Tensei one-shots Kage Bunshins. And why wouldn't it be effective against Naruto? Sure, it won't exactly damage him much, but it'll keep Naruto away if anything.

You're so hell bent on trying to prove the fight was PiS it's fucking hilarious. If anything, the only PiS in the fight is that Kabuto forgot Itachi was there and didn't just Shinra Tensei him to the next zip code.

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Old 10-11-2011, 12:32 AM   #13
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Naruto still stands no chance against Nagato, using KB or not.

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Let me just say that Naruto had some major handicaps in the fight:

1st. he wasn't even trying to beat nagato until nagato started to rip his soul out.

2nd. He didn't even use his full speed (the speed he used against Raikage).

3rd. He couldn't use any shadow clones

4th. He wasn't even close to full power, he had been holding KM mode and 13 KM kagebunshin jutsu's for quite some time. (KM for hours), KM kagebunshin for possibly from half an hour to an hour.

5th. He didn't even use the summoning technique.

I'm sure that if naruto starts this battle off at 100% and with the intent to defeat nagato, naruto has definitely got his chances at beating nagato. Especially since his clones can individually enter sage mode. IMO the fight favors naruto.

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Right, because Preta Path was oh-so-effective against Naruto's KB last time.

And also because Nagato or Preta have shown the ability to keep up the ninjutsu barrier constantly, and will do so In Character.



What happened against Nagato isn't going to happen in this scenario because PIS/CIS is restricted. If he gets held by Chameleon again, then he can just Rasengan it like he should have done in the first place.

Shinra Tensei wasn't even slightly effective against Naruto. And with multiple Bunshin throwing multiple FRS (Some possibly Henged) like how he almost defeated Deva, he can easily defeat the cripple Nagato. The only thing that can end the battle in Nagato's favor is Chibaku Tensei. However Nagato is vulnerable during it's use, so it may end up being more of a tie for him.
Nagato has shown while IC to put up Preta's ability when needed, so if he see's an FRS he'll use the ability as long as needed.

Nagato can utilize his summons while IC to make up for his mobility [1], the Cerubus would cause trouble for Naruto alone, hitting Pain whilst on the bird would be nearly impossible for Naruto.

Or Nagato can use the chamelon again and surprise Naruto over and over again[2], the blast was strong enough to send B flying and let Nagato sneak behind him, I'm not even to sure if it was a direct hit or not, but it sure was enough to knock B off his feat and launch him, and Naruto has less durability feats then B, so Naruto should be hit by it harder. And with the move giving Nagato an opening it may be all he needs to finish Naruto.

Nagato himself has a good durability feat by taking a Lariat, and then absorbing it, [3] if Naruto were to engage with Nagato in Taijutsu the same would happen to him.

Then he proceeds to launch B and even incapacitate him for a few [4] and in the very same scan it shows how deadly being in Mid-Air vs Nagato could be.

Again he uses Preta Path when needed [5]

And this time he could just toss Naruto in ningendo without hesitation, also note that Ningendo repairs Nagato assist in repairing Nagato.[6]

Then we see Nagato use his shared vision to see B trying to approach him by above [7], he easily catches B and holds him with one arm here,[8] and then seconds before his head gets blown off Itachi saves him from Nagato's restraint, if Nagato could hold B with one hand he could surly do it to Naruto as well.

And if Nagato feel's to pressured he could simply use CT [9] forcing Naruto and any KB out into the air and become target practice for Nagato.

Between summons, ST,CT, and all the other paths abilitys I just don't see how Naruto can manage to beat Nagato.

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Nagato stomps like he would have done in Canon.

Taking away PIS doesn't change anything, as Naruto still had no way to get out of Human Path soul rip, even with B's help.

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Nagato owns him again.

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Nagato stomps like he would have done in Canon.

Taking away PIS doesn't change anything, as Naruto still had no way to get out of Human Path soul rip, even with B's help.
If you take away PIS, naruto wouldn't have been getting his soul ripped.

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It's not plot induced stupidity when Naruto consistently uses sub-par tactics with brief flashes of inspiration.

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Nagato should win with easy this.

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