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Old 09-22-2011, 05:44 AM   #1
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Always wondered about this and thought it would be a good match.

This is l'cie Lightning as she was at the end of FFXIII vs Base Vincent from Dirge of Cerberus. Vincent has elemental materia and Light has access to all of her spells from the game

Restrictions: No Odin for Light or Chaos for Vincent

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Location: Midgar, starting in front of Shinra HQ
Starting distance: 20 metres

Bonus scenario: Ragnarok (Fang and Vanille transformed) vs Chaos (Vincent in control.

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Old 09-22-2011, 06:01 AM   #2
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Lightning dont deserve this.

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Old 09-22-2011, 06:03 AM   #3
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Isn't Vincent physically superior to Lightning? Odin would compensate for that massively.

Bonus scenario, I remember Ragnarok being durable and well they did stop Gran Pulse from falling on Cocoon, Chaos Vincent is faster but I'd give this to Ragnarok.

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Old 09-22-2011, 06:14 AM   #4
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Isn't Vincent physically superior to Lightning? Odin would compensate for that massively.

Bonus scenario, I remember Ragnarok being durable and well they did stop Gran Pulse from falling on Cocoon, Chaos Vincent is faster but I'd give this to Ragnarok.
Maybe in physical strength (though Lightning is no slouch) but they are both bullet timers so there shouldn't be any major speed issue. They also both have numerous feats of skill so there shouldn't be much of a difference there. I didn't allow her Odin because it would be too much and I think it's a fair enough fight as it is.

Yeah Ragnarok was durable enough to swim through lava to get to the bottom of Cocoon to keep it from falling then managed to stop it but Chaos' speed advantage and impressive durability in his own right should be enough to keep it interesting

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When did Lightning bullet time? And I don't recall any impressive strength feats from either of them so meh to that. Odin wouldn't be too much as long as Vincent could transform into Galian beast.

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Old 09-22-2011, 06:25 AM   #6
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When did Lightning bullet time? And I don't recall any impressive strength feats from either of them so meh to that. Odin wouldn't be too much as long as Vincent could transform into Galian beast.


3:57 - 4:04 Lightning dodges the bullets fired by the PSICOM soldiers. She has also physically pushed back Behemoth kings.

Anyway I don't remember any feats from galian beast unless I'm forgetting something.

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Old 09-23-2011, 11:05 AM   #7
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Come on, anyone else got an opinion on this?

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Lightning dont deserve this.
She actually does

I spent the first portion of the game wishing Lightning would get punched in the face

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Old 09-23-2011, 06:12 PM   #9
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She actually does

I spent the first portion of the game wishing Lightning would get punched in the face
Me too for like the first few chapters but after thatshe redeemed herself. Also I don't get why everyone thinks this is a stomp. They're pretty even from what I can tell.

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Base Vincent is a bullet timer and has much better aim than PSCICOM troops.

Chaos Vincent rapes

I also don't feel like Lightning's bullet time feats are legit, it kinda looks like they just wizzed passed her.

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She actually does

I spent the first portion of the game wishing Lightning would get punched in the face
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Me too for like the first few chapters but after thatshe redeemed herself.
And then this.

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Chaos-Vincent have more than speed. He have Death-Penalty, insane physical-strength(he overpowered Azul pretty easily IIRC), and power enough to blow-up Omega-WEAPON.

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Base Vincent is a bullet timer and has much better aim than PSCICOM troops.

Chaos Vincent rapes

I also don't feel like Lightning's bullet time feats are legit, it kinda looks like they just wizzed passed her.
If you pay close attention to the scenes she starts moving as the bullets show up at edge of the screen especcially the part where she starts flipping. I know Vincent has much better aim than PSICOM soldiers but that doesn't take away the fact that for the most part in that scene the bullets were well aimed towards Lightning who just dodged them.

I'm not denying Vincent has a large chance to beat her but it won't be as easy as everyone is letting on and Lightning has just a good a chance of beating him.

Chaos vs Ragnarok shouldn't be a rape either considering the later swam through, tore through the bottom of Cocoon and held Cocoon up until it could crystalise it. Chaos has far greater speed yes and a lot of firepower but with Ragnarok's durability it's still gonna be a good fight.

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Old 09-24-2011, 01:33 PM   #14
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Lightning loses for being a terrible character in a terrible story.

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And FFVII isn't terrible, right?

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Old 09-24-2011, 01:36 PM   #16
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Shut up, tool.

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Old 09-24-2011, 01:38 PM   #17
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No-one cares.

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Old 09-24-2011, 01:41 PM   #18
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Your existence hurts mine.

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Old 09-24-2011, 01:42 PM   #19
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lol i don't like ff 7 that much too, my faves are actually 4 and 10 so i dunno what ur talking about

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Irrelevant.

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