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Old 04-21-2011, 02:32 PM   #1
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Location: The bar where Jiraiya threatened to kill Tsunade if she betrayed Konoha (EDIT: ok that turned out to be filler, but still http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v18/c161/18.html)
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Who wins?

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Old 04-21-2011, 02:33 PM   #2
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Five metres?

This isn't going to end well.

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Old 04-21-2011, 02:38 PM   #3
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Jiraiya is far too versatile and powerful in base for Tsunade. She's been stripped of her ultimate technique, so she's forced to rely on her puunching, and Katsuyu.

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In Character? Tsunade. Jman will stare at her boobs and she will punch him in the face ^^

Real combat: Tsunade does not stand a chance against Jiraiya even in his base form. Not at all

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In five metres. With Tsunade having the advantage at close quarter combats. And deadly strength.

Five metres.

And Jiraiya still wins? Okay.

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Sadly at 5m Tsunade can just punch Jiraiya in the face with her chakra inhanced strength and win.

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Old 04-21-2011, 03:10 PM   #7
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Whats a Base Jiraiya gonna do at 5m when he's IC? Yomi Numa doesn't do crap when you have the strength to pull yourself out. And certainly any Katon attacks can be dodged. Jiraiyas forced to use Needle Jizo to stop Tsunades attacks at close range. And even then, he'll still take major amounts of damage when she lands her strikes. If he manages to take off to a range and summon Bunta, then Tsunade summons Katsuyu. Furthermore, a few strikes from Tsunade and Bunta is dead. If Jiraiya tries Toad Flame Bombs Katsuyu protects Tsunade. If he sinks Katsuyu with Yomi Numa, big deal. Tsunade can still take out Bunta with ease. And as long as a few Katsuyu divisions break off and attach to Tsunade, she still has her source of protection.

In other words, regardless of whether they use their summons or not, in the end - it will still be Jiraiya and Tsunade fighting it out on their own. And with no way of attacking her at such a close range with no Sage Mode, all Jiraiya has left is basic Katon and rasengan attacks. All of which are easily dodged by Tsunade.

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What's Tsunade gonna' do against Jiraiya's piked hair armoring?

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Old 04-21-2011, 03:19 PM   #9
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You guys might want to consider that Base Jiraiya should be faster than Tsunade, but I will change the distance if it's too unfair.

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Old 04-21-2011, 03:29 PM   #11
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Do you have any knowledge about real combat? 5 Meters is still more then enough space to: Retreat, walk backwards, dodge, sidestep, in narutoverse jump far away, summon a doton shield...and Tsunades arm is not 5 meters long ^^

Even if the distance was just 0,5 meters Jiraiya can dodge this. You know even if someone stands infront of you you can still dodge attacks and since Tsunades Attack Style is straight forward boxing its so easy to rpedict her moves...hell even i could dodge that.

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What's Tsunade gonna' do against Jiraiya's piked hair armoring?
Punch. As much as I love this technique and I do, Tsunade lifted up Gamabunta's Tanto this defense won't stop her for very long. If this was say 20m or even 10m I would give this to Jiraya but since it is 5m I think Tsunade will take this

EDIT: I beleive Jiraya might have a chance of dodging her first punch but even if he gets away Tsunade can shunshin

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Old 04-21-2011, 03:31 PM   #13
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Whats a Base Jiraiya gonna do at 5m when he's IC? Yomi Numa doesn't do crap when you have the strength to pull yourself out.
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And certainly any Katon attacks can be dodged.
They are no longer at 5 meters then

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Jiraiyas forced to use Needle Jizo to stop Tsunades attacks at close range. And even then, he'll still take major amounts of damage when she lands her strikes.
Let's forget for a minute that he is faster than her but do you know what would happen to her if she punched him?

http://www.mangaday.com/Naruto/166/12/

This times three. Hari jizo pierced Orochimaru's foot completely and Jiraiya was at 30%. Tsunade will be arm would in greater trouble. Plus, is that really all that Jiraiya can do in CQC as you claim? He can't use rasengan? He can't use toad gourd prison? He can't use toad mouth bind? He can't use wild lion mane? He can't use food cart destroyer? He can't summon Bunta to block her? PLUUUUZZZZZZZ


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Katsuyu is fodder for this jutsu. If she keeps her gigantic form, she is easy to sink. If she breaks down, she is easier to sink

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Furthermore, a few strikes from Tsunade and Bunta is dead. If Jiraiya tries Toad Flame Bombs Katsuyu protects Tsunade.
She protects her before or after she is sunk with yomi numa?

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If he sinks Katsuyu with Yomi Numa, big deal. Tsunade can still take out Bunta with ease. And as long as a few Katsuyu divisions break off and attach to Tsunade, she still has her source of protection.
Big if there given how large Jiraiya can make the swamp

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In other words, regardless of whether they use their summons or not, in the end - it will still be Jiraiya and Tsunade fighting it out on their own. And with no way of attacking her at such a close range with no Sage Mode, all Jiraiya has left is basic Katon and rasengan attacks. All of which are easily dodged by Tsunade.
I remember, she has great dodging feats, right? She is going to dodge ranjishigami and Gamayu endan, right? She will also dodge gamaguchi shibari, right? She will dodge yomi numa, right?

Come on man. Tsunade is inferior to Jiraiya even in base

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Jiraiya is no fool, he's not going to engage Tsunade in close quarters. He can very casually retreat and create some distance then destroy her from range.

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Honestly i dont see the 5 Meters to be a problem. Base Jiraiya has about the same speed and Tsunades Attackpattern is so predictable. She always goes for full damage - pulling back arm moving shoulders - if you know martial arts such punches are heavy indeed but are SO easy to evade...for real. The 5 meter distance is no problem at all Jiraiya can easily dodge. And 5 meters...he still as plenty of time to retreat.

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Jiraiya takes this easily he is more versitile and has more summons and jutsus to use to easily overpower Tsunade.

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What the hell? 5 meters = automatic Tsunade win? Honestly Jiraiya just jumps back and puts her in Yomi Numa.

But IC means Jiraiya stares at her tits and gets his head knocked off.

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IC- Jiraiya would look at her boobs and- Nah seriously, IC Jiraiya is a serious fighter, i dont remember him fighting Konan and say "Hey, baby...can i buy you a drink afterwards? ;D"
Plus as many others have pointed out, Tsunade pulls her arm back for a punch, Jiraiya moves back, runs out the bar and preps while Tsunade pulls her arm out of the table and gives chase...right into a Katon

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Jiraiya would win. Tsunade couldnt even defeat Kabuto and she is afraid of blood! how could she even be a ninja? i do not know. But she is strong just Jiraiya is stronger since he could hold his own against Orochimaru and was chosen to Hokage first.

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Jiraiya's vice aside, Jiraiya would win. He has a wide range of techniques such as Yomi Numa that can cover more than a 5m radius.

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