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Old 12-31-2011, 02:06 PM   #281
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http://www.mangareader.net/93-406-2/...apter-401.html
http://www.mangareader.net/93-406-3/...apter-401.html


Can you post the scans for this page?

I want to read what Viz had to say about Itachi deliberately not raping his little brother.
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Chapter 401

Sasuke-It's nonsense. He tried to kill me over and over.

Tobi-If Itachi had really wanted to kill you .... you would most most certainly be dead.

Sasuke-He used the Mangekyo Sharingan on me. So...


Tobi-Even your contingency plans were part of his calculations. Itachi had to pressure you during that battle.

Sasuke-.....!

Tobi-I'm sure you already understand why?
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Oh, and...


http://i38.mangareader.net/naruto/39...to-1569375.jpg

The scan for this page would be nice as well.


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Chapter 397

Tobi-Leave it to Itachi to set a post-mortem trap. I can't believe how well he plans ahead.

Sasuke-...
What are you talking about.

Tobi-In order to kill me, Itachi placed a jutsu in you.. or at least to keep me away from you.

?!
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What about chapter 404?
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I remember one different translation when Tobi said:
We are counting on you, Kisame.
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Now I am relieved... Knowing that it is you calling the shots makes my job easier... Lord Mizukage emeritus.... I mean Madara

I shall continue to count on you, Kisame.
I also liked how he was called "Emeritus".
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:44 PM   #282
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I'll leave Divi for arednad.



Not sure if "single-blow attack" equals "one-hit kill", but here:
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Old 12-31-2011, 04:28 PM   #283
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Itachi "Yeah... If we faced off, we might end up killing each other. At the very least, we'd hurt each other badly.

...And even if I had more backup, it probably wouldn't change the outcome."
Thanks buddy, wanted that one for a while.

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Old 12-31-2011, 05:41 PM   #284
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Even though I think all of this was Itachi talking as villain Itachi, I'm still curious to see what VIZ has to say:

http://www.mangareader.net/93-153-16...apter-148.html

http://www.mangareader.net/93-153-7/...apter-148.html

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Old 12-31-2011, 07:35 PM   #285
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Even though I think all of this was Itachi talking as villain Itachi, I'm still curious to see what VIZ has to say:

http://www.mangareader.net/93-153-16...apter-148.html
Jiraiya: Humph. If you go now, you'll just be killed... There's too much of a gap between you and them. I mean it took me a huge effort just now... Just to distance them from you...

Naruto: Are you saying that I have to keep running and hiding from them for the rest of my life?! Live each day shivering in fear?!!

Jiraiya: Shut your mouth.

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Kisame: Why did we have to retreat...? With your power...

Itachi: There's no need to be impatient... None. Besides which I must also... rest my body in one place for the foreseeable future. For not only Tsukuyomi, the nightmare realm... But I was forced to use the Amaterasu as well...

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Old 01-01-2012, 12:39 PM   #286
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No one claims VIZ is infallible. One small mistake on putting a plural when all the online translations made the same one.

Using a more Americanised name for a jutsu is not a mistake.

Also we do not know why the word revenge is used. Lets wait until we hear the whole story. We don't know if Itachi felt some resentment for the clan or not and felt satisfaction in Sasuke being Konoha's hero.
Well I came across people who simply refused to believe VIZ made any mistakes. Heck, even when VIZ ignored a sentence he would go as far that EVERY other translator was wrong and somehow all made up and added the exact same sentence. Baffling, I know.

Nah, it just shows that they take liberties quite far.

Itachi would achieve revenge against his clan by having Sasuke kill him? Well I wonder how that will be explained. But let's be honest, that most likely is a mistake.

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Well I came across people who simply refused to believe VIZ made any mistakes. Heck, even when VIZ ignored a sentence he would go as far that EVERY other translator was wrong and somehow all made up and added the exact same sentence. Baffling, I know.

Nah, it just shows that they take liberties quite far.

Itachi would achieve revenge against his clan by having Sasuke kill him? Well I wonder how that will be explained. But let's be honest, that most likely is a mistake.
Yes the guy in question is baffling. However, I think people like that are few and far between.

I don't think it is that Itachi would achieve revenge aganst his clan by Sasuke killing him, but by making Sasuke the hero of Konoha. I once made a thread about how the Uchiha clan were probably pinning all their hopes of the rebellion Sasuke once he matured. So Itachi wanted to turn the champion of the Uchiha's into Konoha's champion.

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Old 01-01-2012, 03:12 PM   #288
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Kisame: Why did we have to retreat...? With your power...
And this is after Tsukiyomi usage on Kakashi, Sasuke and Amaterasu on the Toad Stomach

And Kisame still questions why he retreated from Jiraya. Curious to say how Jiraya fans are explaining that one...

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Itachi: There's no need to be impatient... None. Besides which I must also... rest my body in one place for the foreseeable future. For not only Tsukuyomi, the nightmare realm... But I was forced to use the Amaterasu as well...
Straight up lie from Itachi. 3 Years later, when he got even sicker, and his vision even worse he still pulled out more shit with his Mangekyo then the stuff he showed on that day vs Jiraya

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Viz is prone to mistakes. However, if some character hypes aren't to our fancy. We can't simply try to discredit Viz based on that; so Viz doesn't have the same sentiments about someone's hype?

Of course, reading Viz, or any translation, to just enjoy a manga is a good thing. But of course, for in-depth theories and arguments: better to look at a range of translations.
However, from my experience, particularly for some salient parts of Pari II which are heavily debated: Viz coincides with the 'good' fan translations.

That should say something. Hence the existence of the thread.

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Old 01-01-2012, 03:21 PM   #290
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And this is after Tsukiyomi usage on Kakashi, Sasuke and Amaterasu on the Toad Stomach

And Kisame still questions why he retreated from Jiraya. Curious to say how Jiraya fans are explaining that one...



Straight up lie from Itachi. 3 Years later, when he got even sicker, and his vision even worse he still pulled out more shit with his Mangekyo then the stuff he showed on that day vs Jiraya
Why can't we leave this thread to translation Q&A only? If you want to discuss the implication of the translation, please start another thread and I will personally promise to answer your questions there as a Jiraiya fan. Many of us use this thread to get clarification on the story, please let's not litter it with Itachi vs. Jiraiya argument, you know they never stop

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My search shows me that before leaving to Suna, Jiraiya told Naruto not to use that jutsu. The translator was absolutely certain that was the case.
The anime says 'that power', however.

Does Viz coincide with the original Japanese with 'that jutsu' or the rest with 'that power'?

Preferably, I'd also like to see a scan of the Viz version too.

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My search shows me that before leaving to Suna, Jiraiya told Naruto not to use that jutsu. The translator was absolutely certain that was the case.
The anime says 'that power', however.

Does Viz coincide with the original Japanese with 'that jutsu' or the rest with 'that power'?

Preferably, I'd also like to see a scan of the Viz version too.
Viz coincides with the original Japanese text. But I'm very sorry I cannot provide you with a scan... Chapter 251 -

Jiraiya: ... Just don't use that jutsu...

Naruto: I know...

Jiraiya: Kakashi... Keep an eye on him. Don't let him go too crazy. I'm counting on you...!

Kakashi: Don't worry...

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Could I perhaps get the translation on this page? Is this foreshadowing or...?

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Thanks in advance!

EDIT: It's from chapter 7 btw...

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Could I perhaps get the translation on this page? Is this foreshadowing or...?

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Thanks in advance!

EDIT: It's from chapter 7 btw...
No its not translated in the way you think, though I have heard this was a mistake. Reading the VIZ translation they were not much above the average fan translations until about about near the end of part 1 when Mari Morimoto took over.

Only I can kill him.

Who? You mean master Kakashi?

He made me cry..

You cried?

My...

What?


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^ Aww, well just wanted to check. It not being a mistake would've been too easy, wouldn't?

Though "he made me cry?" is just weird.. why the question mark? He doesn't remember he was made to cry?

Anyway, thanks for the quick response!

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Though "he made me cry?" is just weird.. why the question mark? He doesn't remember he was made to cry?
The copy that I have does not have a question mark, although everything else arednad has given you is the same.

Ch 007, Vol 01 page 184. Lowest panels (continuation):

Sakura: What... What are you talking about...!?

Sasuke: My only goal is to have my revenge. I have to become stronger than he is... now.

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^ Aww, well just wanted to check. It not being a mistake would've been too easy, wouldn't?

Though "he made me cry?" is just weird.. why the question mark? He doesn't remember he was made to cry?

Anyway, thanks for the quick response!
Sorry my fault. I put the question in the wrong place. It only has ......

Though I repeat this was not translated by Mari Morimoto and Naruto was no where near as popular then.

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Well phew. Glad they didn't fuck that one up. Vol 54 was pretty good.

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Old 01-07-2012, 06:28 PM   #299
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Well phew. Glad they didn't fuck that one up. Vol 54 was pretty good.
i like the way they were worded, especially the second page (with the light and shadow powers speech). i am also glad that they got the "practical application" part correct.

btw can you also show the last page where tobi talks about nagato, blinx?

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i like the way they were worded, especially the second page (with the light and shadow powers speech). i am also glad that they got the "practical application" part correct.

btw can you also show the last page where tobi talks about nagato, blinx?
I second this.

It would be interesting if Nagato was deemed to be the Third Sage of Six Paths. Simply because Tobi is considered to be one for having Uchiha and Senju blood/abilities. Would this imply Nagato has/had (latent?) Uchiha and Senju powers?

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